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 IntelŪ Core(tm)2 Duo/Quad Overclocked Rev. 2, Going beyond factory limits

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post Jan 9 2007, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(llllll @ Jan 9 2007, 05:26 AM)
dude this i really agree with u,i got the e7600 from US from my friend,and one of my friend got e6700 in malaysia,somehow we overclock it together and i can reach 3.75ghz easily but my friend one can only reach 3.4ghz....hmmm hmm.gif
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U guys using different mobo and PSU??
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post Jan 9 2007, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(llllll @ Jan 9 2007, 05:26 AM)
dude this i really agree with u,i got the e7600 from US from my friend,and one of my friend got e6700 in malaysia,somehow we overclock it together and i can reach 3.75ghz easily but my friend one can only reach 3.4ghz....hmmm hmm.gif
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different proc have diff overclocking ability...its lucky if u can go above 3.7ghz barrier
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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Jan 9 2007, 10:24 AM)
different proc have diff overclocking ability...its lucky if u can go above 3.7ghz barrier
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yeah.. i believe both luck and batch number plays important role in OC.. same pieces of hardwares, same batch number do not guarantee same overclocking result smile.gif

fyi, those extreme ocers like at xs, or other oversea forums, they bought lots of processors, test it 1 by 1 and then we can see they hit 4ghz and above..

i also bought lots of conroe but not for overclocking purpose.. i concern more about heat.. some chip produces less heat than the others.. and in terms of oc, i had conroe that cant do 2.9ghz, while my current conroe can run super PI at 3.7ghz at 1.4vcore.

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post Jan 9 2007, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(irenic @ Jan 9 2007, 12:23 PM)
yeah.. i believe both luck and batch number plays important role in OC.. same pieces of hardwares, same batch number do not guarantee same overclocking result  smile.gif

fyi, those extreme ocers like at xs, or other oversea forums, they bought lots of processors, test it 1 by 1 and then we can see they hit 4ghz and above..

i also bought lots of conroe but not for overclocking purpose.. i concern more about heat.. some chip produces less heat than the others.. and in terms of oc, i had conroe that cant do 2.9ghz, while my current conroe can run super PI at 3.7ghz at 1.4vcore.
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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Jan 9 2007, 12:36 PM)
yup agree...the otai has spoken... notworthy.gif
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ko lg otai.. 3.5ghz stable with low vcore thumbup.gif
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post Jan 9 2007, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(irenic @ Jan 9 2007, 12:40 PM)
ko lg otai.. 3.5ghz stable with low vcore  thumbup.gif
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low ker...bios set 1.525v...tp read 1.5v....tp akuk takleh cecah 3.7Ghz...fsb akuk wall kat 460...ko lagik otai lar..... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Jan 9 2007, 12:43 PM)
low ker...bios set 1.525v...tp read 1.5v....tp akuk takleh cecah 3.7Ghz...fsb akuk wall kat 460...ko lagik otai lar..... laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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owh.. i thought 1.3x vcore only hehe.. fsb wall @ 460 is not bad IMO smile.gif

btw found interesting link regarding crossfire comparison between the coming RD600, current 965p and the old skool 975x mobos biggrin.gif

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=129509

this is my old screenshot of this intel xbx2 + my E6600

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post Jan 10 2007, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(irenic @ Jan 10 2007, 08:41 AM)
owh.. i thought 1.3x vcore only hehe.. fsb wall @ 460 is not bad IMO  smile.gif
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1.3x vcore can only give me at 3.2Ghz stable...to stable at 3.5Ghz vcore 1.525v...but its ok actually since Im on wc...idle around 35-37 max orthos load 60-65...
i can hit max 3.66 on 460fsb...n run super Pi 1M...but i think need more juice to stable it...tak mau set vcore lebey 1.6 sweat.gif
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QUOTE(llllll @ Jan 7 2007, 11:07 AM)
PSU cooler master real power 550w flex.gif
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at least it's real power... i would get Enermax Liberty 620 if I were u... BTW... the Striker is juz a propaganda... Not really worth getting... OC'ers usually won go for tat exp boards... tat's y popular boards are either Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 or Asus P5B series... cuz i've seeb ppl wif AMD 3000+ got better response and faster windows loading than C2D... sad.gif but not gaming performance... brows.gif laugh.gif

Any1 exp lower benchies after OC ar...? I can reach 3.6GHz but 3Dmark06 only 1508... sad.gif
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jan 4 2007, 10:49 PM)
Guys i have one noob question  icon_question.gif

E6400 3.8Ghz = 15.765 sec
E6600 3.4Ghz = 15.000 sec

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Why higher clock speed but SPi reading higher??
I tot tht 2 mb cache only bring less than 5% perf different.
E6600 and E6400 architecture is so different?? i tot they are same only E6600 have higher multiplier.
Pls some pro enlighten me please  notworthy.gif
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Any pro can enlighten me pls. icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jan 10 2007, 08:47 PM)
Any pro can enlighten me pls. icon_question.gif
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based on my 5x E6600s vs 3x E6400s vs 1x E6300, i'm very sure the 2mb L2 chip needs extra 200mhz to get same score as its 4mb brother in super PI..

so in other words, based on my experience, if my E6600 is at 3.4ghz, i need to set my E6400 or E6300 to 3.6ghz to get same result in Super PI.

In ur case, the E6400 is at 400mhz higher than the E6600, but still slower 0.765 secs in super PI.

So my GUESS is the diferrence comes from other things, such as background application, mem usage, and / or tweaked windows..

neway just wanna share with u guys my quick test with this XBX2.

E6600 @ 3.7ghz 1.375vcore, 1.6vmch, 1.3vfsb
Intel XBX2 bios 2333 1066 strap
Mushkin DDR2 800 @ 5-5-5-15 @ 1.84vdimm
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E6600 @ 3.8ghz 1.45vcore, 1.625vmch, 1.35vfsb
Intel XBX2 bios 2333 1066 strap
Mushkin DDR2 800 @ 5-5-5-15 @ 1.84vdimm
8800GTX
Thermaltake Toughpower 700w

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Okei, since i had used lots of boards, i would like to give my comments on them. since this is from my personal experience, my opinion might not same with u bcoz of hardware differences and environment.

965: gigabyte ds4, dq6, ds3, asus p5b dlx wifi edition, biostar 965 dlx

975: asus p5w dh dlx wifi, intel xbx2

for 965, my first board ds4 was ok.. but lack of bios support made me jumped to gigabyte flagship board, dq6.
dq6 was not bad, until i read that asus p5b dlx is the best conroe board at that time.
but the asus gave me lots of trouble. it reported my memory as error while the ram itself was proven ok when i tested it with other board.. i couldnt reach as high oc as i got with dq6.
with ds3, i can get same max oc as dq6, but the ds3 produced a disturbing noise.
the biostar is the best conroe i had at that time. no memory issues, no noise, highest oc result i achieved.

for 975, asus p5w dh is better than the biostar. it is faster @ same clockspeed, more stable, and the bios is easy to configure. but in terms of oc, i just managed to hit the same speed as i got with the biostar.

the xbx2 : has less features than the p5w dh dlx.. as i bought this board just after 2 hours review @ xs, somehow i felt like i made a wrong decision.. but few days later i found out this is the best board i ever used with intel processor..

1) 100mhz extra clockspeed than what i got with my p5w dh dlx. (3.8 vs 3.7)

2) need significantly lower voltages than p5w dh dlx ( 3.7 @ 1.375vcore, 1.6vmch, 1.3vfsb VS 3.7 @ 1.45vcore, 1.65vmch, 1.4 vfsb)

3) bios recovery if bios flashing fail

4) and most importantly, no more cold boot, or power on off like other c2d boards.

however this xbx2 still got few disadvantages

1) less attractive stuffs like wifi, bundles, to justify its price

2) bad jumper position

3) no screw hole for chipset heatsink. so 3rd party hsf that can be used is limited..

4) got problem with software like everest and IDCC.

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haven't even finished OC'ing my e6300. now tempted to upgrade already doh.gif

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e6300
16.844 - p00ket - 3.47GHz, 496 x7 / Gigabyte 965P-DS4 / 1GB DDRII-992, 5.0-5-6-13 / Zalman 9700

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QUOTE(p00ket @ Jan 11 2007, 02:54 AM)
haven't even finished OC'ing my e6300. now tempted to upgrade already  doh.gif

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e6300
16.844 - p00ket - 3.47GHz, 496 x7 / Gigabyte 965P-DS4 / 1GB DDRII-992, 5.0-5-6-13 / Zalman 9700
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did ur oc stable??
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QUOTE(p00ket @ Jan 11 2007, 03:54 AM)
haven't even finished OC'ing my e6300. now tempted to upgrade already  doh.gif

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e6300
16.844 - p00ket - 3.47GHz, 496 x7 / Gigabyte 965P-DS4 / 1GB DDRII-992, 5.0-5-6-13 / Zalman 9700
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u got do any benchy...? PCmark...?
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wow...nice oc p00ket rclxms.gif
wat ram did u use? mind sharing? izit a stable oc? or jz manage take banchie? wink.gif
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QUOTE(siauann @ Jan 11 2007, 07:50 PM)
wow...nice oc p00ket  rclxms.gif
wat ram did u use? mind sharing? izit a stable oc? or jz manage take banchie?  wink.gif
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Nice proc.. second higest in this thread for E6300. thumbup.gif
But RAM @500Mhz 5-5-6-13 wo.. i think your Hynix also can do tht nod.gif

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I lost track with the post already, anyone using e6600 ES version? what is your core temperature?

i got mine for 2 days....
using ATX tower
e6600 ES (din't OC)
TT Big Typhoon VX

my core temperature using TAT
IDLE: 68 - 72
Full Load: 80 - 81

but bios CPU temperature shows
IDLE: 26 - 33

which is the real one? if core temp so high, anyway i can lower it down?

non-aircond room
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QUOTE(thankyou @ Jan 11 2007, 08:31 PM)
I lost track with the post already, anyone using e6600 ES version? what is your core temperature?

i got mine for 2 days....
using ATX tower
e6600 ES (din't OC)
TT Big Typhoon VX

my core temperature using TAT
IDLE: 68 - 72
Full Load: 80 - 81

but bios CPU temperature shows
IDLE: 26 - 33

which is the real one? if core temp so high, anyway i can lower it down?

non-aircond room
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same prob as me..im oso using E6600 ES..btw im using G-power pro for cooling

n as i ask around d temp from d TAT or core temp shd be more reliable..nway wut mobo u r using now?
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QUOTE(frank_fusion @ Jan 11 2007, 08:36 PM)
same prob as me..im oso using E6600 ES..btw im using G-power pro for cooling

n as i ask around d temp from d TAT or core temp shd be more reliable..nway wut mobo u r using now?
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i'm using GA-945GM-S2 micro-atx mobo...
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QUOTE(thankyou @ Jan 11 2007, 08:42 PM)
i'm using GA-945GM-S2 micro-atx mobo...
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then i guess its perhaps d proc prob..not my ds3

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