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AVFAN
post Nov 25 2016, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(Shanglin @ Nov 25 2016, 06:14 PM)
xe.com sometimes not working wo, the quote can fluctuate few cents in a minute  bangwall.gif
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i think this is what's going on:

xe.com is OFFSHORE rate, with NDF's which BNM is trying to "kill" - hence u still the erratic movements.
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=MYR

bloomberg follows ONSHORE rates:
https://www.bloomberg.com/markets/currencies/asia-pacific

BNM rates are ONSHORE, middle rates as of noon and 5pm:
http://www.bnm.gov.my/?tpl=exchangerates


a good way is to look at the money changer rates whenever u pass by one.

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post Nov 25 2016, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 25 2016, 06:42 PM)
What abt this one below from Yahoo Finance ? It tells the movement too.

http://finance.yahoo.com/chart/MYR%3DX#eyJ...jp0cnVlfQ%3D%3D

Is this onshore or NDF rate ?
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offshore, same as xe.com.
AVFAN
post Nov 25 2016, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 25 2016, 07:26 PM)
I saw in the Bloomberg Exchanger, USDMYR = 4.4583.

In the Yahoo Graph, USDMYR = 4.4533.

The spread is so small. And the Offshore rate is lower than the Onshore rate ?  rclxub.gif

1) Why is the spread so small ?
2) How can the Offshore be lower than the Onshore ?
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You will not have the answer 100% as long as bnm is not forthcoming with what it is doing.

I will not lose sleep over small variances, unless u r dealing with tens or hundreds of millions.

More impt to keep track of the bigger picture.
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post Nov 26 2016, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(NIckLJF @ Nov 26 2016, 11:23 AM)
Guys have a question. I am currently working overseas earning in USD. I convert USD back to MYR on a monthly basis to pay my bills and house back in MY (exchange from money changers in Malaysia). Here, I only spend salary on basic necessities while I have on going home loans, insurances and commitments back in Malaysia.

In your opinion, should I:
1) Convert USD to MYR and put in FD/savings in Malaysia considering the high exchange rate now or,
2) Save here in USD as the rates are higher (especially FD).

The next round where I will require substantial amount of MYR will be during CNY 2017.

Thanks in advance for your advise!
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it will depend on what is yr view of the USD-RM in the coming 1 month, 3 months, 1 yr, 3 years.

u can try reading up, what others say, what analysts say.

plenty of comments and links right in this thread! biggrin.gif

as mentioned earlier, all these are just predictions, impt thing is your own conclusion/decision.



still, if u r earning $ and spending RM continuously, no big harm buying enough RM for say 3 months usage at a time. even if u lose, it is the 3 months amount.


AVFAN
post Nov 26 2016, 01:04 PM

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original article:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...come-out-on-top


a commentary below. DEBT is the problem.

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M'sia fares worst in reserves to debt deficit - report
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1 comments    Published Today 12:28 pm    Updated Today 12:49 pm
 
Malaysia ranks worst in terms of its deficit of foreign currency reserves compared to external debts, leaving it the most vulnerable to currency attacks and capital outflows.

Bloomberg yesterday reported that a study of International Monetary Fund's (IMF) measure of the buffer between foreign reserves and debt showed Malaysia in the weakest position, with Turkey, South Africa and Mexico close behind.

"The measure shows Malaysia - not coincidentally the worst performing of the major emerging Asian currencies against the dollar this month - faring poorly by comparison, with a US$100 billion reserves projection against short-term external debt of US$128.2 billion, based on IMF estimates," it said.

The gauge helps identify which countries have the strongest buffers against capital outflows toward developed markets as US interest rates are poised to keep climbing following US president-elect Donald Trump's electoral victory.

“Malaysia and Turkey are classic example of countries whose reserve levels are falling to a critical level in comparison with the amount of their short-term external debt.

"When the overall market trend is down, investors are looking for who is more vulnerable and weak reserve position is also highlighted,” Bloomberg quoted Takahide Irimura, an economist at Mitsubishi UFJ Kokusai Asset Management Co, saying.

Meanwhile Tsutomu Soma, general manager of fixed-income department in Tokyo at SBI Securities Co, said countries with a poor buffer will face greater risk of attacks.

“In this broad trend of the dollar strength - or emerging-market currency weakness - the currencies of countries that have plenty of reserves will probably perform better than others.

“You don’t attack the currency when you know the monetary authorities have plenty of money to intervene.

"Instead, you look for a currency that has less ability to defend it,” he was reported saying.

Malaysia’s reserves are well down from a May 2013 high, said Khoon Goh, head of Asia research at Australia & New Zealand Banking Group Ltd in Singapore, and the slimmer adequacy ratio "limits the ability for Bank Negara to intervene".

While Bank Negara insists its foreign currency reserves are at a "comfortable level", the ringgit has continued its slide down to 4.458 to the US dollar yesterday.

Depleting reserves across Asia

The measure developed by the IMF showed Thailand and the Philippines may be best placed to withstand further downward pressure on the emerging currencies in Asia, said Bloomberg.

Called the 'assessing reserve adequacy' gauge, it incorporates criteria from short-term debt to money supply, imports and investment flows.

It is based on calculations taken before the "Trump-induced US reflation play roiled the foreign-exchange market".

IMF forecast last month Thailand’s reserves were at US$163.3 billion at year-end, compared with the $64.9 billion needed, while the Philippines reserves were at $84 billion against a US$31 billion need.

However Bloomberg noted Asian countries have been using their reserves to "prevent disorderly declines, likely making the IMF’s year-end projections unattainable".

Read more: https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/364248#ixzz4R5VXs0Ff


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post Nov 27 2016, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(xpmm @ Nov 27 2016, 12:56 AM)
bnm has unofficially peg myr at 4.45 la, money changer trade at 4.5x margin, so no more increase. show over, investors over too, cabut.
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More likely this:

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Malaysia’s central bank has instructed onshore institutions not to take part in the NDF market or help others to do so. Foreign banks with operations in Malaysia seem to be deferring to the central bank’s wishes, notes Stephen Innes of Oanda, a foreign-exchange broker, to preserve their good name in Malaysia. “They are not aggressively selling the ringgit right now.”

But one reason the offshore market is so spiky is because trading is thin. That illiquidity may worsen if banks retreat. And if foreign investors cannot easily hedge their exposure to the ringgit, they will be less willing to buy ringgit assets. That might leave Malaysia with a weaker currency over the long term even if it is more stable from day to day. “No one from the banks is willing to discuss the ramifications,” Mr Innes says. “I find that quite unique.” Others may find it worrying. Silencing the markets is not the same as calming them.

http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-...laysias-central

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post Nov 27 2016, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(xpmm @ Nov 27 2016, 02:00 AM)
Silencing the markets is not the same as calming them.

sum up very well. umno so used to silencing, thats what they good at.
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that, we know has become a key competency, a hallmark of how things are done today.

so, it is all about confidence.

it is not something that can be whipped up instantaneously like a packet of maggie mee.

it is something very easily broken, very hard to repair.

so, at least for now, is it not quite clear which direction it will go?!


and BNM now has a new strategy:

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...gy-for-ringgit/

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Nov 27 2016, 09:28 AM
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post Nov 27 2016, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 27 2016, 09:54 AM)
bro avfan,

ok for me to change sgd at now ? I wan to take opportunity on the low sg reits prices.
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if i have the money, i would change money now but buy sgreits slowly.
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post Nov 27 2016, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(strace @ Nov 27 2016, 05:40 PM)
I understand why the 1yr is rising now/a week ago but what's with the 1 year curve bent like that 1mo/1yr ago?
election? cheap auction on 1 yr?
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i would think that is due to "expected" clinton win and bnm cutting int rate not happening anymore.

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post Nov 27 2016, 11:35 PM

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below is from nov 21, just for the record:

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The ringgit tumbled for eight straight days through Friday before sinking as low as 4.4325 per dollar on Monday, the weakest since October 2015. One-month non-deliverable forwards, which fix a rate for exchanging the ringgit in the future but are settled in dollars, plunged 6 percent in the period and touched 4.5848 on Nov. 11, the widest discount to the spot rate on record.

The latest slump seems more urgent than the currency’s decline through to the middle of 2015. While that move helped slow economic growth and made consumers less likely to spend, only the past month’s drop spurred the central bank to expressly say it was intervening. The central bank has rarely disclosed any episodes of intervention.

Track Record
Malaysia’s track record means some investors are nervous about the possible introduction of capital controls, though the economy is less vulnerable now than it was in 1997, Brown Brothers Harriman wrote in a Nov. 16 report. It said any limits on hedging would risk “scaring away” global bond investors.

“Definitely no capital controls, there’s not even any discussion of moving in that direction,” Adnan told reporters in Kuala Lumpur. “What we are doing is really trying to have a targeted measure to contain the offshore NDF market. We have to contain the influence of the offshore prices on the onshore market.”

After the ringgit plunged to a record 4.885 per dollar in 1998, then-prime minister Mahathir Mohamad imposed restrictions including a peg at 3.8 per dollar and a ban on offshore trading in the currency, blaming U.S. billionaire George Soros and other “rogue speculators.” The peg was eventually scrapped in 2005.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...ringgit-sellers

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post Nov 28 2016, 09:39 AM

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cherroy will lock this thread soon.
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post Nov 28 2016, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Nov 28 2016, 12:05 PM)
I know. I get reported by him about this highlight last week and this thread get locked by Cherroy.

That why I wanted to remind you about this and his power in lowyat and get that CC staff locked this thread..

powerful la him...
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and if u keep posting about that, thread will surely be locked, again.
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post Nov 28 2016, 01:33 PM

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this thread will get inevitably get locked, maybe for good.

a casualty of an unrelated war.



wil-i-am... maybe it's time to start a new one.

meanwhile, i will post some links in this refuge thread, and may be we can continue there. biggrin.gif

Why has the ringgit fallen so much today
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4109276/+20#bottom
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post Nov 28 2016, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 28 2016, 05:20 PM)
Bro,
I can start a new thread but I can't stop 'unwelcome' forumers to post here
Wat say u  hmm.gif
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true.

think we can keep quiet for a while, see what mod/admin say/do.

i will post impt articles in the other thread for future reference.

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post Nov 28 2016, 11:13 PM

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for the record...

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Ringgit falls to new record low against Singdollar
The Malaysian ringgit fell to a new record low against the Singapore dollar on Monday (Nov 28), with S$1 trading at RM3.1401 at around 10.35am
http://www.todayonline.com/business/ringgi...nst-sing-dollar


but mo1 says...
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PM: Ringgit drop not as bad as claimed
“And if we look in terms of a basket of currencies, we have not dropped much, only with the US dollar
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...-bad-as-claimed


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post Nov 29 2016, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 29 2016, 01:53 PM)
what I mean is to keep MYR at 4.45/4.46 range..

did u see the BNM website rate.. very stable at 4.46.. even money changer rate also the same.. where got logic can hold like that..

bnm is interfering (donno how they do that without touching foreign reserved)  confused.gif

u think how long can they do like that.. that's why I said mid dec.. more longer will be problem..
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do take note that in the past few days, the $ has been fairly stable after a runnup.

the week long charts for USD/SGD, USD/baht, USD/peso... also pretty tight.

it may also be u have become so used to RM falling and falling that a few days flat looks strange! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(lowya @ Nov 29 2016, 02:19 PM)
has anyone here actually uplift/hedge ringgit for other asset/commodity class to protect from net worth erosion from the trend? by that i mean actual action and not 'nato'.
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this thread v1 goes back to jan 2015, almost 2 years ago.

i do not know who took action during these 2 years but i know some are definitely not NATO. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 29 2016, 05:11 PM

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the dollar index hit a high of 102.12 on 24 nov.

it has since cooled to 101.46, i.e. about 0.5% lower, quite stable now.

we'll see how it goes next few days.

plus tmrw night, we'll know what opec will do or not do.

major oil price changes will move the $ and hence RM big time.

that might also show if BNM is intervening and/or will continue to do so.

stay tuned! tongue.gif

http://www.investing.com/quotes/us-dollar-index
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post Nov 29 2016, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 29 2016, 05:31 PM)
Saudi Arab and Russia pulled away from the meeting and the talks failed right before it even started
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No, not like that.

Saudi does not want to attend the non-opec meeting, meet them only after opec has a deal themselves.

Non opec Russia says ok with freeze, not cut.

Opec Iran is here and there, iraq says ok with cut.

Its all in a limbo, fragile.

As the news comes out gradually, oil price reacts, now falling as it is not good at this time.

Goldman gives it 30% chance for some deal.

Still 24 hrs to go, we will see, may be a surprise last minute.
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post Nov 29 2016, 06:32 PM

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Just watched a few minutes of cnbc live from vienna.

Then commentator said tmrw opec ministers meeting may be very short, i.e. no deal or 10 hrs, make a deal.

So, we wait...

Whichever outcome... deal, oil price up, our petrol price up. No deal, rm falls, petrol price also up. Enjoy!!
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post Nov 29 2016, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 29 2016, 09:06 PM)
As v debate, WTI Crude tank 2.7% to USD45.78 now
I have a gut feeling tat OPEC decision will b bau
Thus, long USD now
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long usd, short crude! thumbup.gif

QUOTE(aspartame @ Nov 29 2016, 08:26 PM)
May I know roughly how much of your net worth/wealth including residence etc (in % terms) has been converted to foreign currency denominated assets? This question is also addressed to all those willing to share their figures. I have only about 3%. Sigh....
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i would think if one has plans to get out, it will be 60-90%.

no plans to leave, with hard illiquid assets, maybe 20-30%?

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