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post Sep 3 2016, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(darylding2000 @ Sep 2 2016, 04:38 PM)
I test drive alrady. I would said not bad at all.
Pros
-Comfort level is good n quiet if normal slow pedal drive...
-Power 1.5L is acceptable easily reach up 80-100kmh (SA, me, wife n 2 kids)
-Quite impress the 3row seat leg room. 
-Optiron lcd meter quite nice..
-sliding doors
-Not bumpy like Avanza
-rear blower
-3 airbag acceptable for the price range. (Serena only get 2 airbag)

COns
-No armrest for front seat.
-Notice the engine noise is quite loud when during heavy footed...
-No roof monitor
-No armrest for 2nd row

Still cant make decision between Sienta and wish 2012 recon. Wife n kids very like the sliding door. Fren n parent said 100K spent on 1.5cc, u must b kidding. My budget is 100-120k. Sigh....
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I will choose Sienta over Wish recon with one major reason - worry free for car warranty in next five years.
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post Sep 3 2016, 11:38 AM

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Y worry about what others think? U r going to use it n u the one paying...
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post Sep 3 2016, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(darylding2000 @ Sep 2 2016, 04:38 PM)
I test drive alrady. I would said not bad at all.
Pros
-Comfort level is good n quiet if normal slow pedal drive...
-Power 1.5L is acceptable easily reach up 80-100kmh (SA, me, wife n 2 kids)
-Quite impress the 3row seat leg room. 
-Optiron lcd meter quite nice..
-sliding doors
-Not bumpy like Avanza
-rear blower
-3 airbag acceptable for the price range. (Serena only get 2 airbag)

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Any car can easily reach up to 80-100 km/h. Its how fast you take to get there.

In terms of power I think will be comparable to an Avanza 1.5.

This post has been edited by Ginny88: Sep 3 2016, 12:57 PM
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post Sep 3 2016, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Sep 3 2016, 12:54 PM)
Any car can easily reach up to 80-100 km/h. Its how fast you take to get there.

In terms of power I think will be comparable to an Avanza 1.5.
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both 1.5l but Avanza is RWD so it is heavier and more transmission loss.
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post Sep 3 2016, 11:09 PM

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In japan It's often compared / fights directly with Honda Freed...
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post Sep 4 2016, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(soyusa @ Sep 3 2016, 09:31 AM)
I will choose Sienta over Wish recon with one major reason - worry free for car warranty in next five years.
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Fair point, but I'll take the wish and won't worry about a thing. Because the wish is a Toyota, not a Volkswagen. Nothing to worry about.

I'll take my chances, cause to me the wish is overall a better car especially with the airbags for my whole family.

This post has been edited by Jason: Sep 4 2016, 02:40 PM
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post Sep 4 2016, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 4 2016, 02:39 PM)
Fair point, but I'll take the wish and won't worry about a thing. Because the wish is a Toyota, not a Volkswagen. Nothing to worry about.

I'll take my chances, cause to me the wish is overall a better car especially with the airbags for my whole family.
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In my opinion, current toyota wish not a better car than sienta. It's already outdated compare to sienta bcoz it being released in 2009. In term of practicality, space usage, fc, tech; certainly sienta better. If not Sienta will not be best seller mpv in japan.
Not all recond toyota wish got more airbags either.

However I sure next gen wish will be better car. So that toyota can capture more target market.
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post Sep 5 2016, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Sep 4 2016, 10:53 PM)
In my opinion, current toyota wish not a better car than sienta. It's already outdated compare to sienta bcoz it being released in 2009. In term of practicality, space usage, fc, tech; certainly sienta better. If not Sienta will not be best seller mpv in japan.
Not all recond toyota wish got more airbags either.

However I sure next gen wish will be better car. So that toyota can capture more target market.
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Depends what you consider "better". 3 vs 8 airbags, 3 is better for your usage, sure. Like I said, safety is a priority for me in a MPV, especially my passengers.
Oh, release in 2009? In terms of tech Sienta better? What tech? I know the engine is not better. The Valvematic engine in the Wish is better in every way than the dual VVT-i in the Sienta.

FC? 1.5L vs 1.8L. Also, not necessary the 1.5L will be better than the Wish's valvematic. In town maybe, due to smaller displacement, on highways? I doubt so. Plus Wish got more power. So don't see how Sienta is "better".

Sienta is the best seller MPV, no doubt. For its price and category, sure. That's like saying Perodua Axia is better car than God Car, if not will not be the best selling car in Malaysia (silly justification)

The saving grace for Sienta is the power sliding doors. If those are a must have. If not I don't see how its better than the Wish.

Anyway, wishing you safe journey with your new Sienta, I think orange is pretty flashy color.

This post has been edited by Jason: Sep 5 2016, 02:11 AM
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U can't compare a Made in Japan JDM with a Made in Indonesia ones... yup and furthermore one is 1.8L. How on earth a 1.5L NA can challenge that. But however.. this is a Sienta's thread... where ppl discuss on Sienta, esp the newly launched model. So ppl would bias towards it....
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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 4 2016, 02:39 PM)
Fair point, but I'll take the wish and won't worry about a thing. Because the wish is a Toyota, not a Volkswagen. Nothing to worry about.

I'll take my chances, cause to me the wish is overall a better car especially with the airbags for my whole family.
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Yup... Toyota is not Volkswagen, no worry about it! biggrin.gif
Since you think wish is better than sienta, go ahead with it, this is your choice, no harm~
Your main priority is on car safety over the warranty.

QUOTE(jonn zee @ Sep 5 2016, 02:13 AM)
U can't compare a Made in Japan JDM with a Made in Indonesia ones... yup and furthermore one is 1.8L. How on earth a 1.5L NA can challenge that. But however.. this is a Sienta's thread... where ppl discuss on Sienta,  esp the newly launched model. So ppl would bias towards it....
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Agree... Japan JDM vs Indonesian made, all thanks to UMW! bangwall.gif
Both wish and sienta are in different car classification (compact MPV vs mini MPV), although EURO NCAP still classing both as small MPVs.
Other than engine + safety, the physical outlook of the car length and height are different too >> 4,590mm/1,590mm (wish) vs 4,235mm / 1,695mm (sienta).
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if UMW / Toyota decides to bring in the JDM Sienta (dashboard gear) me thinks the price would be around Freed's last time , RM 100k - 120k
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Sep 4 2016, 10:53 PM)
In my opinion, current toyota wish not a better car than sienta. It's already outdated compare to sienta bcoz it being released in 2009. In term of practicality, space usage, fc, tech; certainly sienta better. If not Sienta will not be best seller mpv in japan.
Not all recond toyota wish got more airbags either.

However I sure next gen wish will be better car. So that toyota can capture more target market.
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As what I know, Wish will be discontinue and currently Toyota will replace Wish with Sienta. In Taiwan, they do have a special Sienta edition with 1.8 engine as a replacement model for the market there as they are lots of Wish taxi there..


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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 5 2016, 02:09 AM)
Depends what you consider "better". 3 vs 8 airbags, 3 is better for your usage, sure. Like I said, safety is a priority for me in a MPV, especially my passengers.
Oh, release in 2009? In terms of tech Sienta better? What tech? I know the engine is not better. The Valvematic engine in the Wish is better in every way than the dual VVT-i in the Sienta.

FC? 1.5L vs 1.8L. Also, not necessary the 1.5L will be better than the Wish's valvematic. In town maybe, due to smaller displacement, on highways? I doubt so. Plus Wish got more power. So don't see how Sienta is "better".

Sienta is the best seller MPV, no doubt. For its price and category, sure. That's like saying Perodua Axia is better car than God Car, if not will not be the best selling car in Malaysia (silly justification)

The saving grace for Sienta is the power sliding doors. If those are a must have. If not I don't see how its better than the Wish.

Anyway, wishing you safe journey with your new Sienta, I think orange is pretty flashy color.
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Not into so much of debate, on Wish vs Sienta.

But in term of safety, I always rate a car with VSC (less airbags) > non-VSC (more airbags) we need VSC to safe the car from losing control and avoid accident.

And is Wish fitted with VSC ? No right as it belongs to the older batch of Toyota models.
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QUOTE(amdxp @ Sep 5 2016, 11:25 AM)
Not into so much of debate, on Wish vs Sienta.

But in term of safety, I always rate a car with VSC (less airbags) > non-VSC (more airbags)      we need VSC to safe the car from losing control and avoid accident.

And is Wish fitted with VSC ?  No right as it belongs to the older batch of Toyota models.
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got lah. it is optional though.

enough of this debate, any1 got their Sienta d?
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post Sep 5 2016, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(jonn zee @ Sep 5 2016, 02:13 AM)
U can't compare a Made in Japan JDM with a Made in Indonesia ones... yup and furthermore one is 1.8L. How on earth a 1.5L NA can challenge that. But however.. this is a Sienta's thread... where ppl discuss on Sienta,  esp the newly launched model. So ppl would bias towards it....
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We can compare, because its at the same price range. Just that it is different, one is a recon, while one is new with local warranty. The choice is always up to the buyer, because its your money, not mine rclxms.gif But bias should not be riddled with half truths and misleading views. I'm not bias to either the wish or the sienta, I dislike UMW Toyota and the way the Malaysian automotive industry works (AP-cronies), but I like cars.


QUOTE(amdxp @ Sep 5 2016, 11:25 AM)
Not into so much of debate, on Wish vs Sienta.

But in term of safety, I always rate a car with VSC (less airbags) > non-VSC (more airbags)      we need VSC to safe the car from losing control and avoid accident.

And is Wish fitted with VSC ?  No right as it belongs to the older batch of Toyota models.
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Thing is, its not much of a debate. Apart from the price, entirely different car, and one is recon vs one is new with full warranty. Many people will choose the new car with warranty -- a logical choice. Plus someone else asked about it, so just dropping my view with some facts.

We're talking about the 2009 onwards Toyota Wish, not the model sold by UMW Toyota.
Wish is fitted with VSC. It also comes with a 7 speed super CVT for fuel economy. I think the Wish looks quite handsome, but alas, no power sliding doors. Personally I'd prefer power sliding doors for MPV, cause the whole idea of MPV is to haul people around right? Stop in front of the school, power door opens and your kids go off, and you can close the doors automatically from the driver's seat. Macam Vellfire.
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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 5 2016, 11:57 AM)
We can compare, because its at the same price range. Just that it is different, one is a recon, while one is new with local warranty. The choice is always up to the buyer, because its your money, not mine  rclxms.gif But bias should not be riddled with half truths and misleading views. I'm not bias to either the wish or the sienta, I dislike UMW Toyota and the way the Malaysian automotive industry works (AP-cronies), but I like cars.
Thing is, its not much of a debate. Apart from the price, entirely different car, and one is recon vs one is new with full warranty. Many people will choose the new car with warranty -- a logical choice. Plus someone else asked about it, so just dropping my view with some facts.

We're talking about the 2009 onwards Toyota Wish, not the model sold by UMW Toyota.
Wish is fitted with VSC. It also comes with a 7 speed super CVT for fuel economy. I think the Wish looks quite handsome, but alas, no power sliding doors. Personally I'd prefer power sliding doors for MPV, cause the whole idea of MPV is to haul people around right? Stop in front of the school, power door opens and your kids go off, and you can close the doors automatically from the driver's seat. Macam Vellfire.
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the very reason im getting the Sienta...
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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 5 2016, 11:57 AM)
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We're talking about the 2009 onwards Toyota Wish, not the model sold by UMW Toyota.
Wish is fitted with VSC. It also comes with a 7 speed super CVT for fuel economy. I think the Wish looks quite handsome, but alas, no power sliding doors. Personally I'd prefer power sliding doors for MPV, cause the whole idea of MPV is to haul people around right? Stop in front of the school, power door opens and your kids go off, and you can close the doors automatically from the driver's seat. Macam Vellfire.
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if it comes with sliding doors, its called van whistling.gif

vellfire = premium van rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(mockv1per @ Sep 5 2016, 12:17 PM)
if it comes with sliding doors, its called van  whistling.gif

vellfire = premium van  rolleyes.gif
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yup, as mpv = minivan in amareka
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QUOTE(jonn zee @ Sep 5 2016, 11:59 AM)
the very reason im getting the Sienta...
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And I can't argue with that logic nod.gif Sienta looks funky, better than the loaf of bread called Freed...imo

QUOTE(mockv1per @ Sep 5 2016, 12:17 PM)
if it comes with sliding doors, its called van  whistling.gif

vellfire = premium van  rolleyes.gif
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Its okay. I would love to be chauffeured in a Vellfire, and step out like a boss.



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