omaigod.... x habis habis....
1)it is not for us to decide for you, we have already told you what we feel about it.....
2)lol compared up against these 3? they are in a completely different price range/category from the honda city, jazz and mazda 2... this is again like paultan comparing the axia with the iris.... heck why not compare the iris with a bmw since our ministers say, and i quote "Proton is on par with other premium vehicle brands like BMW"
3)if u want 100% (or 99%) positive feedback go ask paul tan (he has an account here in lyf pls go pm him)

now... u keep asking which is best... i have said once and for all i would pick the suprima given that you dont take price into consideration....
the only cons of the suprima compared to the iris i can think of are:
+ price - u never mentioned a price range so scratch this, not a con for you
+ larger size - useless drivers would have issues navigating the larger car into parking lots
+ maintanance costs - technically has a turbo, turbos needs to be serviced sometime later on. Also more exp tyres

now about performance... The satria neo which in my opinion is already not a fast car, just decent performer is faster than the iris... so in my honest opinion the iris has a lackluster engine (not that the fc is really that great)

1. Brand : Any Brand
2. Budget : 50-60K
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : 2.0
5. Transmission : AT
6. NA or FI :  NA
7. Type : SUV
8. Remarks : The spec shd b reliable and less issue as using by old folk only for outstation driving.

I'm looking for a SUV type of used car. That car will be utilized by old folk which main usage is for long distance journeys. Their mileage of using is about 8K per year.

Hope our forumers able to provide some advise for which brand are worth to choose. Currently been survey for Honda CRV 2007-2009 & Hyundai Tucson 2011-2012 which cost 60K ++.

My dilemma is to choose between them. But if got other choices will consider it as well. So far, I've been heard Honda CRV for year 2007-2009 are quite good condition and seldom got any issue except it hydraulic pump which need to change after 80-100K mileage of using. For Hyundai Tuscon 2011-2012, I do not have any feedback yet but due to it is a CBU unit so afraid the repairing cost will quite high due to their spare parts hardly to find.

I'd appreciate any feedback from fellow forumers who able to provide me some precious advise about any SUV worth to own and with regards to ride, handling, comfort, reliability, maintenance fees, fuel consumption, etc for the Honda CRV 2007-2009 and Hyundai Tuscon 2011-2012. Most importantly, which car brand is the cheapest to maintain?

Thanks.

Vehicles that fit the bill perfectly.
Honda CRV (from your pick)
-its found everywhere on our roads, parts are no issue all in all, a proven car.
Nissan X-Trail
-also a solid car, less common but reliable nonetheless

vehicles that kinda miss it by abit (this bunch are on the luxurious side)
Nissan Murano
-nice car, only issue? 2.5L tax~
Harrier
-also a nice car BUT the older 2.2L models are pretty old and looking abit dated now and the newer 2.5L models are nicer looking but cost quite abit more

+both cars are very reliable and are basically mechanically speaking, bulletproof... luxury cars
-both cars do drink fuel rolling around in town

cars that i dont think you should consider BUT because i like to pop up with silly ideas that only appeal to me, let me throw in these 2 (jangan marah saya, i just really like these 2)
Toyota Caldina
Mitsubishi Airtrek
+both are 2.0L turbo vehicles, both very powerful, both sport oriented
+both share many parts in its others in their respective families....
-unfortunately they can cost abit to maintain cause... power and budget never go hand in hand
-yeah turbos~ u did mention na but i like power

you are using the term flagship wrong...

you are using the term flagship wrong...

have to say... it looks a heck lot better than the x-trail, mechanical parts should be very similar i guess? (at least engine wise definitely the same)... only thing would be the interior trim and the exterior panels/trim, but its not like one needs to replace those often.
the current flagship would be the accordana......
dont know how many times i have repeated this.... but i take issue with the fake pipes..... Ahbengness x2 for not only one fake pipe but 2 fake pipes~

u mentioned, paul tan already recomended the iris to you.... and also said the iris is a 'flagship'..... go ahead and buy the 'flagship', what are you waiting for..... go buy it and be done with

hmm what's the con bettwen elantra n sonata ?

but both same price as 2nd hand car == which should i pick ?

imo its really about what/need you want in a car and if you can afford it....
as mentioned, one will cost you more in to run ..... tax, insurance, fuel, tyres all cost more for the sonata.

why did you narrow down your choices to this 2 in the first place? Theree has to be several reasons.
you should figure out what you want in a car first. do you need the space? is it about the image of the car?(sporty/luxurious/classy kinda car) what about maintanance (some here say kimchis cost around the same to maintain and are as easy to maintain as a similarly classed sushi car. i would like to disagree, but have no evidence to back me up unless it comes to chevy.... then i have lots to say)

side note: you should really mention what year, spec cars you are comparing...... maybe even an example would be great

Yes, they're like twins.
One pretty another ugly.
But on the inside they're the same.
Usually upkeep is all about maintenance cost and spare parts cost.
So that usually means engine/aircon/gearbox/suspension.
Since these two share the same stuff then it is like Proton Wira using Mitsubishi Lancer parts or vice versa.
I think the door panels are compatible but definitely the front and back are incompatible.
But like I said those only need to be changed if an accident happen if nothing happens you don't need to change.
Usually for accident either own insurance or 3rd party insurance pay so the cost for those things aren't really a factor for me.
Which is why keeping a Galant for me is kinda cheap coz just use Perdana parts 
Talking about Perdana here is some info...

Perdana G1 = 1994-1997
Perdana G2 = 1997-2010 (although it was discontinued earlier)
Perdana G3 = 2010-2016 (CKD Accord 8gen rebadged)
Perdana G4 = 2016-now (Accord 8gen reskin/makeover)

The most funny part about the Perdana G4 is not the fake exhaust everyone does it now but the ESC.
Proton shouting everywhere even the smallest of their cars the Iriz has ESC even the base model.
But Perdana G4 2.0 tarak ESC while Accord 8gen all spec got VSA.

VSA = ESC = stability control
i'm tempted to say whichever that kills you faster but i won't.

when all is said and done the choice is yours.

what you really need and can afford. then you look for cars. you don't look at everything under the sun then only think about it.
Elantra - C-segment sedan, engine 1600cc-1800cc variants
Sonata - D-segment sedan engine 2000cc-2400cc variants

Let's say you're not comparing with anything else but these two cars, the maintenance of the Elantra would be cheaper by virtue of it having a smaller engine (less engine oil u need to buy) and less complicated. Usually for any manufacturer their D-segment saloon cars is their flagship model thus parts will cost more because they're also engineered better, e.g. bigger brakes (4 pot vs 2 pot), bigger lower arms, complicated suspension (multi-link vs torsion), etc.

I know Hyundai and Kia are having renaissance right now with better design of their cars and also better value for consumers so their sales are going up, in smaller countries like Singapore/Brunei they've overtaken smaller Japanese brands like Daihatsu, Suzuki, etc. in certain segments. However, their engine's aren't still as robust and fuel efficient as Japanese ones.

If you're buying a Korean you're buying it for the design, value (accessories/toys they add in the car) and lower price.

In terms of maintenance cost and parts availability that would be dependent on your area if it has a large following of Hyundai owners or not. E.g. Peugeot was pretty much dying everywhere else in Malaysia except Ipoh, Perak because there is a strong community of owners and new buyers there.



Elantra does look nice even with some simple bodykits....too bad it has a wimpy engine. 

i knew that the base 2.0 had no ESC....   when its funny when you compare them like that.... 

Do you mind to explain why?

Don't mind him, he is just 'overenthusiastic'.... This is me being as nice as I can be

I thought I was the only one...

I'm guessing you're really trolling or smoking some really good shit if you really think proton cars are better than any of the models you listed above in ANY way or form. Proton as far as I'm concerned is a company used by a few people to loot/extort malaysians of their earnings and deprive them of the experience of driving good quality cars, period.

u gona try beat them in all the aspects (in italics) listed? good luck.....
one example, a gtr beats any proton in handling,performance,suspension,nvh,comfortable seat, engine,safety BUT maybe not in reliability
so option 2, mark x, in all the mentioned aspects, probably considered the winner~
*note that noone mentioned price, running costs or maintenance

conclusion: i think you should wait maybe 50 years? maybe then proton will have a car that can beat the current cars the others have to offer.... yeah best you stay off the roads till then~

i honestly wonder if he is just trolling or.... its really just the way he is......

but ..... that repork button is getting tempting

**wait ur right... me thinks someone reported him some time back....  too bad he was in bora bora when the forums were down for maintenance

and i gave you a serious answer, at this point i dont even know why im even trying to come up with answers for you.... re-read what i said... the answer is pretty clear