The current model sold here has been around for almost 10 years with a few facelift.

Corolla Cross facelifted early this year but still foot brake.
There is another one with Electronic Parking Brake coming end of 2024, I heard. If wrong dun scold me.

Madza2 is great to chuck around and pretty reliable since all the kinks have been ironed out. Just that your rear passengers get super uncomfortable as the seats designed for kids only 😅

City has the most powerful 1.5NA engine but their parts reliability seems to have gone down so if unlucky, more visits to service centre.

Vios is manufactured by Perodua. It has the same engine, chassis, gearbox, steering wheel as another car that is 24K cheaper.. the Alza

CX-30	Core	130K
	High	140K
	High+	150K
	Premium	160K
Corolla Cross	G	130K
	V	138K
	Hybrid	142K
	GR Sport	142K

Even at the lower variants, Mazda 2.0L engines producing 160hp 210Nm driving a superior 6speed skyactiv transmission is a class higher than Cross 1.8L CVT.

Unless you're looking for space (while waiting for the facelifted EPB to replace the ancient footbrake) or Hybrids, the Mazda is clearly a better vehicle to drive.

This post has been edited by dogbert_chew: Sep 7 2024, 01:18 PM

Safety wise, the two SUVs are somewhat similar, but you can explore in detail eg Mazda has G-Vectoring, Driver attention alert while Cross has Tyre pressure monitor, collision detection and so forth.

Wouldn't worry about the hybrid, its actually lifted from the Prius which is proven robust worldwide. I stressed my Prius for 6 years no issues.

CX-5 is a pretty old platform, more space yes than CX-30 but
errm.. go test drive. Bring along family and friends. 👍

Checked with Carsome and Carro (mytukar) on the value for your 2014 City? Might get more than 25K. Highest price if you sell yourself.

A. Any used car got risk, need careful check by trusted expert. The smaller car segments repair usually cost less if unlucky. So would stick to say 2014 Axia E. If you can drive manual

B. Check with your bank

C. If you don't drive often, then Grab + public transport might be a cheaper option for the year instead of car ownership

💪 Carsome or Carro still will earn at least 3-5K from your City.
Not sure if you have the time to sell yourself without getting scammed too.

Going from B segment to D the maintenance will double , triple. And you are talking about 19 to 23 year old models. AND continental models? Suicidal

New car < 60K only 6 models from Proton and P2
Sedan - saga, bezza, persona
Hatchback - Axia, Myvi, Iriz

Hatchback more flexible for carrying larger items, folded rear seats means can squeeze in small cabinets.
Sedan suppose to handle better at highway speed, bigger boot.

Proton tougher hence safer in actual accident, more comfortable but P2 have more active safety to prevent accident with more modern equipment like new CVT gearbox for lower fuel consumption and higher resale value in case need to sell earlier than planned.

If not focus on handling and passive safety from tougher body, then P2 is more popular choice for better resale and lower fuel.

Problems with the three P2 models (my opinion la)
Axia - 1.0L 67hp not enough power. If really sedate city driving no fast overtaking then 2nd problem is very expensive. AV varient is 50K 😳
Bezza - based on the old Axia platform, P2 design a boot and to make it look better, raised the back by a few inches. This completely destroyed the handling making this car the WORST handling in Malaysia. Again, driven slowly no issues.
Myvi - new DCVT gearbox but old engine and even older platform since 2005 first Gen based on Daihatsu Boon. So handling is also shaky and new model expected in 2025 affecting current model value.

Since you're already familiar with Proton services, and higher fuel consumption minimal impact on your 200x52=10K mileage per year, then can consider
Saga Premium with old but reliable 4AT price 42K (before ins) with 7" touchscreen but 2 airbags only. Do take max 5 year if loan needed else market value below outstanding loan balance.

Persona and Iriz is bigger B-segment more stable better handling which you dont need.

Else second choice Bezza X extra 2K at 44K (before Ins) since slow drive handling still ok for better resale and lower fuel (also lighter by 150Kg than Saga) but no touchscreen & reverse camera (can install aftermarket)

Apart from EV or Peugeot 408, there's only the 3 sedan models above you can buy new at that price range. Can get your preferred variants from multiple test drives, another option is to join car club discusions eg Mazda clubs

Unless you willing to explore SUV?

This post has been edited by dogbert_chew: Sep 18 2024, 07:05 PM

If you're open to SUV then the options suggested at this range would be
Corolla Cross Hybrid 142K vs CX-30 High+150K

Cross Hybrid has more power than Corolla with its system lifted off from the highly successful Prius. However you need to prebook and wait for the new model with Electronic Parking Brake in Q4 to avoid long queue once decided

CX-30 is a slightly smaller, lighter, faster and modern model compared to the aging CX-5. Am surprised your Mazda SA didn't proposed it. Example it has driver knee airbag as well total 7 compared to CX-5 6 airbags. Add 10K for AWD.

Do test drive both extensively, bring family & friends.

Whoever the soar high in Sime Darby (who now owns UMW 🤦🏻‍♂️) responsible in pricing the 1.5L NA B-seg Korean SUV at 150K should be sacked.

Today might as well get a brand new WR-V below 100K. At least there are still buyers.
Turbo SUVs avaliable include Ativa, X50.

Crete most likely only display unit probably zero buyers how to get parts?

This post has been edited by dogbert_chew: Sep 28 2024, 10:12 PM

In the end, bought which car?

Many people complain that X50 did not have enough spares for parts breakdown during their warranty period.

How much spare parts do you think Sime Darby will stock up with profits made from selling 142 units of Creta?

But it seems that you have already decided this is a good deal. All I can say is good luck. 😇

Agreed.
I shared regarding my X50 accident earlier, everything settled within 3 weeks. But there are still those (possible competitor salesman) that says otherwise.

They let Corolla Cross facelift (with electronic parking brake) launch first end of this year.

Hence P2 Nexis and Yaris Cross possible first half next year.

	AxiaE	SagaMT	SagaAT
Drive	Fun	Fun	Easy
Price	22K	35K	39K
Control	Can Play	Can Play	Follow
<3000rpm	ok	<power	slope underpower
ABS EBD	No	Yes	Yes
Stability Control	No	No	Yes
Hill start assist	No	No	Yes
Parts, Support	Ok	Less?	More
Resale Value	High	Less	Moderate
Production	Ongoing	EOL	Ongoing
Wait time	9-18m	Special request	3m

As a driver, how fast do you go, especially on wet roads?
Is this your primary car and for work?
If so Safety > Fun.

This post has been edited by dogbert_chew: Oct 6 2024, 07:44 AM

IF you choose AT, here are 3 options

	AxiaX	Saga Std	Saga Premium
Price	40K	39K	42K
Chassis	DNGA	Savvy	Savvy
Trans	DCVT	Aisin 4AT	Aisin 4AT
Engine cc	3cyl 998	4cyl 1332	4cyl 1332
Hp	67	94	94
Nm	91	120	120
Kg	870	1072	1084
Kg/Nm	9.6	8.9	9.0
Timing	Chain	Belt	Belt
Length	3.8m	4.3m	4.3m
Wheelbase	2525mm	2465mm	2465mm
Rims	14"	14"	15"
Headlamp	LED	Halogen	Halogen
DRL	No	No	Yes
Foglamps	No	Rear	Rear
Audio	Radio	Radio	Touchscreen
Reverse Cam	No	No	Yes
Engine Start	Push button	Key	Key
Parking Sensor	Front Rear	Rear	Front Rear

The new Axia handling is better than the old model, with a longer wheelbase than Saga. If single driver acceleration can equal Saga with the more efficient DCVT but once loaded with passengers, the small HP & torque ratios to weight quickly becomes disappointing.

Saga new model being developed in Hangzhou now expected launch 2026 with 1.5L sedan and hatchback models replacing the current saga, iriz, persona completely, something akin to City Sedan & Hatchback variants. If Proton can price it right to fight Bezza, Axia/Myvi then the older Saga models might face serious drop in value.

But meanwhile, Saga is still a safer car for now vs P2 eggshells

This post has been edited by dogbert_chew: Oct 6 2024, 07:43 AM

Start from scratch
A. Purpose of car
B. Frequency of use, number of passengers
C. Average mileage per day
D. Outstation travels
E. Years of driving experience
F. previous cars & current one - any issues
G. Why focus on reliability only, what about comfort, handling etc

Suggest test drive Alza AV RM76K


It has sufficient power for short daily travels even with 4 passengers, proven reliability and good support of P2 service centres. Occasional outstation travel at legal highway speed is covered with plenty of luggage space.

Wow, congratulations on your first post in LYN after joining 12 years ago! 🎉

Here are 5 hybrids suggested for test drive.

Model	Body	Price
Yaris Cross	SUV	90-110K
City	Sedan	112K
City	Hatchback	113K
HR-V	SUV	141K
Corolla Cross	SUV	142K

Yaris Cross hybrid eta 1st half 2025.
Mazda Hybrids are not yet sold here.
Excluded Serena due to poor reliability, service & X90 as it is still new unproven track record.

This post has been edited by dogbert_chew: Oct 8 2024, 10:45 AM

jackbanner time for V4?