ShinichixZ this....

well... its more about how you are about to commit to something you dont truly know that you 100% would want and enjoy doing...

what happens if you buy the car then 6 months down the road cannot tahan doing this job anymore? what happens at that point?? you would have no job (assuming no backup job) and a big fat loan to pay

if its a car you were considering to get in the first place for your own personal use... id say thats fine, go right on ahead.. but specifically for gc? seems like a dangerous game...

why dont you take a step back and think about what you need/want. Do you want a small car to make parking easy or do you need a large car to drive ur family/parents around?? Do you drive long distance often?, Does the car need to be new? (used cars = maintanance will be higher but, one; you dont really suffer as much in terms of depreciation if you intend to change to another car in the near future. and two; it widens your potions), what kind car do you like? many things to think about...

zenix sifu, i just kepo only~

Is it true getting attention-grabbing colors will reduce car thief chances
i duno if theres been research done on this... but i think the more 'common' colors get stolen more often. My reason would be, its easier to get away in a common colored car than one that stands out.
Now if you are talking about those that load their cars with the attention grabbing goodies (meters, displays, branded addons, whatnot).... those probably have an increased chance of getting robbed.

easier to maintain? easily the camry..... parts are easily obtainable and cheaper, and almost any tom dick or harry can fix that tank. (it aint no hybrid yeah)

better? i have no answer for you... depends on what you want i guess.


why logically the vios??

i have strong opinions about the (older) vios-es.... theres nothing good about the car other than its reliable as hell... and imo, its one of those cars which isnt really worth it used cause its resale is so high. Compared to the myvi, its prettymuch something similar just bigger.... built quality is around the same level, nvh same thing, handling both crappier side..... basically the same brand too... (myvi is a diahatsu which is basically a toyota )

im just gona give you a simple answer.... the beemer will cost a craplot more to maintain....

Will it be less as to buying a 2nd hand Mazda 3 for example
mazdas are not the cheaper jepunis cars to maintain but it is in no way going to be more expensive than a beemer unless you get an absolute lemon....

frankly speaking... im no good with loan calculations and all that... i deal with cash if possible haha (hence the reason my car is over 20 years old)

not exactly the same (its a dif car afterall) but its very similar.... i call them tin kosong...
both maivee and vios xde vsc anyway... if you want that feature, consider the persona or top range bezza

since you have already narrowed it down... well cheapest and easiest to jaga will almost always be the new car... also applies in this case. The bezza and persona will certainly be easiest to jaga of the lot (spare parts will also be cheaper than the rest given that 1)its a smaller car and 2) they are designed to be budget local cars.

city
-abit bigger than the vos iirc?
-i think the E has folding seats compared to the vios J (double check, not sure)

vios
-this is a sort of 'new' vios. One would think that the car is not really mature enough to tell if there are any potential issues BUT toyota really looooooves reusing stuff. Its pretty much the same case here.... same old body (proven stuff), same engine used in other cars (avanza/sienta) and what i assume to be a very similar cvt in there as well. heck they even threw in stability control.
-Spare parts im not sure but im guessing it wont be far off the old vios other than when it comes to the cvt. (again just guessing). The vios and city's maintanance costs are not really that far off, the city being alittle more to maintain in general. It was only the city's 1st cvt gearbox which cost a crapton more to replace in event it kaputs

bezza
-imo basically a low cost vois... maybe a 'vios-lite'
-i guess you pay more you get more applies here?
-a very decent town car but a not a great option if you do lots of long distance traveling.
-if driven carefully... the fc for this thing is fantastic

yup yup!! wana watch reviews!!

if you ask me, persona oklah.... its also very similar... bigger than the axia....
persona
-more stable (imo not that great actually.... old persona was better)
-bigger
-stability control throughout the range!!

bezza
-better fc (even without a cvt)
-fancy start stop thing (kenot ingat whats it called)

whut the.... dei friend... such different cars.... how to compare.....

this...


dude... very obvious choice....

few notes.... from my short experience with modified cars
1)do you know how much it costs to maintain a b18? its not bad actually but its not ever going to be as cheap as the saga... remember..
i. these types of cars are usually quite abused
ii. parts are old and need replacing. do you know how much this can cost?
iii. you have to know how a conversion was done... sometimes owners skimp while converting... problems might showup down the road so never do that.
2)me no respect for the gsr.... go straight for the type r.... personally respect vtecs for what they are, but only the type r engines.... gsr's are to me, neither here nor there. its faster then most things on the road (assuming in good cond) but slower than you would expect....
3)u must know your stuff very very well... check everything the owner claims... you should be able to check almost anything other than internals (e.g. cams, valves, pistons rods)
4) i cannot emphasis on how much can go wrong when it comes to modified cars lol.

haha modified cars.... unless you know what you are getting, never a good choice. most of the time, you get what you pay for

haha whichever tickles your fancy, all actually pretty good to me. All 3 are new, have similar prices and sort of similar kind of features
*if you are fine with rear space, persona is probably a good choice given the pricetag

i assume you mean compared to the suprima?
its still a very different car ya know.... one is a small sedan which gets really great mileage and does very well in town. The other is a much larger more powerful car with less than avarage fc...

between the 2 i personally like the suprima better BUT it will cost you more to run... fuel, wear and tear parts, tires, oil.... its pretty much more expensive to maintain other than possibly the battery.

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Nov 6 2016, 03:00 PM

@_@ fd compared to any of these... would be a big downgrade if you ask me... whats your budget like? find it alittle strange that you want to be downgrading from an FD to a saga or much older civic. if you are working with a tight budget not a good idea to look into these performance oriented (/converted) models...

Though now, since mentioned that you have owned a fd before and assuming nothing has changed in terms of what you can afford to spend on your cars, i think you should actually have no issues maintaining any of the cars you have mentioned....

ahhh makes much more sense!!! then avoid the modified carslah.... saga/persona or bezza if you want something new

i think you better summon zenix I know close to peanuts when it comes to mpv's all i can do is throw more into the mix and confuse you hehe

exora bold
-probably one of the better options if you ask me... good value for $
-spacious 3rd row + ac vents for everyone!!
-plastic quality aint great if you ask me... (but not gona claim much worse)

Grand Livina,
-simple mpv, will get you places

if you can afford an estima (plus the tax for that fat 2.4) you can probably consider these as well....
Stream/wish/Grandis
-they are very similar in many ways, all are japanese, all are relatively reliable, maintanance figures are also very similar
-just dif features?

Serena is the nicest and highest tech of the lot.. but most exp as well.... maintanance long term would be higher as well... (hybrid, more things to jaga)

dont like rondo's~

*best get opinions elsewhere... again, i know peanuts~

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Nov 7 2016, 06:05 PM

personal opinion? none of the above....
'year end promo'?? they hari hari also promolah~~
'1 more year car's age, hence the price drop'?? meh... sama je..... drops after sitting for a long time (might only apply to rarer cars)

best would be to find a car which is being sold for the 'right' reasons, even better if the owner is desperate~~
pro: can occour any time of the year
con: damned rare, u got to know what you want and actively look for it

i think its quite an easy choice between these 2? (if the price isnt a concern ofc)