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post Jun 30 2016, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(dark90 @ Jun 30 2016, 10:28 AM)
WTF man , i did not realise before that the second hand prices for THESE CARS are AFFORDABLE. GEEZ its cheaper than a NEW VENTO. God damn, need to do research again. lets say 65-75k how much monthly do you reckon for a 7/9 years installment?
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well, keep in mind, at the end of the day its a used car....... so well there will be some scratches, some wear and tear, that kind of thing.... you also dont get warranty anymore. Peace of mind is one of the most attractive things about buying a car new (also theres always that new car smell nod.gif) *also keep in mind that generally cars that cost more to run/maintain will sell for less on the 2nd hand market*


QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 30 2016, 10:40 AM)
Don't bother it is a scam  laugh.gif
No harm in paying for it if you like it but i wouldn't bother.
Save the money and repaint the car better  brows.gif
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ahh well... than my current plan is good enough.... every 3 years repaint if nessasary~

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post Jun 30 2016, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(dark90 @ Jun 30 2016, 10:47 AM)
Well.. that logic works too, but if i'm not mistaken the interest rate for used car is much much higher, no?
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yes definitely is..... someone else somehow was able to get a loan for a 20 yr old car similar to mine... i dont know what kind of loan, all i know is the interest rate was over 5%.... which from what i understand is alooottt mega_shok.gif (i dont know much about loans, cant brain them)
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post Jun 30 2016, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 30 2016, 10:50 AM)
yes definitely is..... someone else somehow was able to get a loan for a 20 yr old car similar to mine... i dont know what kind of loan, all i know is the interest rate was over 5%.... which from what i understand is alooottt  mega_shok.gif  (i dont know much about loans, cant brain them)
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QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 30 2016, 10:49 AM)
coating cost start from RM500 onwards and if you get bamboozled it can be RM1500  laugh.gif
can pay for a repaint oredi  brows.gif
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ehh 1.5k can kaotim?? hmm mine maybe ade banyak door dings to deal with, and fiber work, been quoted around 3.6k luar shj so im budgeting 5k to get it done nicely 1 shot....
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post Jun 30 2016, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(nelsonmui87 @ Jun 30 2016, 11:14 AM)
E. Any advise where could I get more reliable reverse camera? Prefer those no need drill one...
I am worry after drill if change next camera will it be a problem.

G. Yes, I found if running on highway frequently, even new car will get lots of stone chip easily...
Thinking how to prevent in this case hmm.gif  hmm.gif 
Thanks bro. In this case will prefer factory fitted one... Because previous car is exactly like what you mentioned, after drill the work is not nice and need worry for future camera replacement.
Actually i am thinking to get a reliable camera with guideline, my previous guideline totally doesn't work.
So guideline is actually produce in camera not player, right?

Erm... so your usually repaint every few years? After repaint any impact?
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dont wana drill hole then just get the oem fitting ones, u can find them online i tapped my camera on tongue.gif

problem with repainting is... well its not original..... some people dont like repainted cars cause u actually cant tell if the car has been involved in an accident unless you start stripping the car down. one of the things i watched out for when getting my car was overspray cause i wanted to know if the car had possibly been involved in an accident before. A car with the completely original coat kind of helps cause you are quite well assured that the condition of the car is as advertised

i personally dont mind repainting (and touching up) my own car cause i intend to keep it around for a while.... long as i know that my car is accident free, its good enough for me haha
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post Jun 30 2016, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 30 2016, 12:36 PM)
do you think iriz 1.6  exec mt beat vios,almera,myvi and axia and honda city and jazz and mazda 2 and kia rio and kia picanto  and hyundai  i10.in terms of performance,handling,suspension,nvh and others
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omaigod.... x habis habis....
1)it is not for us to decide for you, we have already told you what we feel about it.....
2)lol compared up against these 3? they are in a completely different price range/category from the honda city, jazz and mazda 2... this is again like paultan comparing the axia with the iris.... heck why not compare the iris with a bmw since our ministers say, and i quote "Proton is on par with other premium vehicle brands like BMW"
3)if u want 100% (or 99%) positive feedback go ask paul tan (he has an account here in lyf pls go pm him)

now... u keep asking which is best... i have said once and for all i would pick the suprima given that you dont take price into consideration....
the only cons of the suprima compared to the iris i can think of are:
+ price - u never mentioned a price range so scratch this, not a con for you
+ larger size - useless drivers would have issues navigating the larger car into parking lots
+ maintanance costs - technically has a turbo, turbos needs to be serviced sometime later on. Also more exp tyres

now about performance... The satria neo which in my opinion is already not a fast car, just decent performer is faster than the iris... so in my honest opinion the iris has a lackluster engine (not that the fc is really that great)
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post Jun 30 2016, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(jnhh @ Jun 30 2016, 02:36 PM)
1. Brand : Any Brand
2. Budget : 50-60K
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : 2.0
5. Transmission : AT
6. NA or FI :  NA
7. Type : SUV
8. Remarks : The spec shd b reliable and less issue as using by old folk only for outstation driving.

I'm looking for a SUV type of used car. That car will be utilized by old folk which main usage is for long distance journeys. Their mileage of using is about 8K per year.

Hope our forumers able to provide some advise for which brand are worth to choose. Currently been survey for Honda CRV 2007-2009 & Hyundai Tucson 2011-2012 which cost 60K ++.

My dilemma is to choose between them. But if got other choices will consider it as well. So far, I've been heard Honda CRV for year 2007-2009 are quite good condition and seldom got any issue except it hydraulic pump which need to change after 80-100K mileage of using. For Hyundai Tuscon 2011-2012, I do not have any feedback yet but due to it is a CBU unit so afraid the repairing cost will quite high due to their spare parts hardly to find.

I'd appreciate any feedback from fellow forumers who able to provide me some precious advise about any SUV worth to own and with regards to ride, handling, comfort, reliability, maintenance fees, fuel consumption, etc for the Honda CRV 2007-2009 and Hyundai Tuscon 2011-2012. Most importantly, which car brand is the cheapest to maintain?

Thanks.
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Vehicles that fit the bill perfectly.
Honda CRV (from your pick)
-its found everywhere on our roads, parts are no issue all in all, a proven car.
Nissan X-Trail
-also a solid car, less common but reliable nonetheless

vehicles that kinda miss it by abit (this bunch are on the luxurious side)
Nissan Murano
-nice car, only issue? 2.5L tax~
Harrier
-also a nice car BUT the older 2.2L models are pretty old and looking abit dated now and the newer 2.5L models are nicer looking but cost quite abit more (correction, newer models are 2.4 not 2.5)

+both cars are very reliable and are basically mechanically speaking, bulletproof... luxury cars
-both cars do drink fuel rolling around in town

cars that i dont think you should consider BUT because i like to pop up with silly ideas that only appeal to me, let me throw in these 2 (jangan marah saya, i just really like these 2)
Toyota Caldina
Mitsubishi Airtrek
+both are 2.0L turbo vehicles, both very powerful, both sport oriented
+both share many parts in its others in their respective families....
-unfortunately they can cost abit to maintain cause... power and budget never go hand in hand
-yeah turbos~ u did mention na but i like power

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post Jul 1 2016, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 30 2016, 04:16 PM)
yes ask him to get honda crv. For me i still stick with Iriz Mt 1.6 exec thank you for your advice. How come iriz is similar to hyundai i10.No it is not even similar to each other.Suprima S, Exora CFE and Preve CFE are the flagship cars of Proton. And Iriz is also one of the flagship cars of proton.
1) Suprima S
2) Preve CFE
3) Exora CFE
4) Iriz VVT
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you are using the term flagship wrong...
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post Jul 1 2016, 09:37 AM

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dualist - whoa that thing looks more like a murano than an x-trail ohmy.gif
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post Jul 1 2016, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jul 1 2016, 09:58 AM)
here is one wearing the crossover kit

user posted image
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have to say... it looks a heck lot better than the x-trail, mechanical parts should be very similar i guess? (at least engine wise definitely the same)... only thing would be the interior trim and the exterior panels/trim, but its not like one needs to replace those often. nod.gif


QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jul 1 2016, 10:10 AM)
why? because there is no more inspira left so Iriz is the flagship car of proton car right now. and Zenix, paul tan ask me to buy iriz mt.
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the current flagship would be the accordana......
dont know how many times i have repeated this.... but i take issue with the fake pipes..... puke.gif Ahbengness x2 for not only one fake pipe but 2 fake pipes~ shakehead.gif
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post Jul 1 2016, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jul 1 2016, 11:34 AM)
i am stuck between proton waja cps and exora cps and iriz mt.Which proton car do you recommend me to buy?
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u mentioned, paul tan already recomended the iris to you.... and also said the iris is a 'flagship'..... go ahead and buy the 'flagship', what are you waiting for..... go buy it and be done with doh.gif
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post Jul 1 2016, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jul 1 2016, 12:35 PM)
However, maybe i will follow your advice because i do not really trust paul tan that much because i have no confident towards iriz mt so i will get waja cps.what do you think? But paul tan say Iriz 1.3 standard,exec,1.6 premium and exec mt are the best car to date but i still do not believe in what they say. Do not worry  Lee shi Ming/lsm1991 doh.gif but(paultan) they say Proton Iriz Mt is the best most affordable car because it beat myvi,axia,rio,i10,picanto,vios and almera.the reason that i have to get Waja CPS is because LSM1991 say it is a very decent car. If you deny,here is the evidence.waja looks good if you want something cheap, relatively decent.4 weeks ago,you make this statement. For now, i will stick with Proton Waja CPS.What do you think about it?proton waja cps is my favourite late 2000s proton car.(http://xxxxx.org/2008/08/10/proton-waja-cps-test-drive-review/)

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doh.gif tak habis habis~~

Looking at this gives me a headache~~ dude structure your sentences!!!!

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So~ if i say a car is 'relatively decent' you will get it, even if it was not the car i mentioned was the best??(u asked best between just about every proton in existence) I also did mention to dark90 that the caldina and airtrek are cars i personally liked, why not you get those instead..... heck you know what, the car i actually own would be even better since i would not have bought a car i didn't actually like right? why not buy that?(if you can find my fb page, my car pic is used as my cover pic, have a go at finding me~) or even better still, why not get every single car i have ever mentioned was decent....... u dont have a set budget (or licence) afterall.

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post Jul 1 2016, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(face @ Jul 1 2016, 01:02 PM)
hmm what's the con bettwen elantra n sonata ?
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Just fyi.... both cars are of different segments.... so their target market was different in the first place.
basically u can think it this way;
+sonata:
- The bigger more expensive of the two with more toys and gizmos loaded into it. Generally the bigger more luxurious d-segments costs more to maintain and run (completely logical yeah?)
- so general con is its more expensive to keep around (also other cons include things related to its size such as, parking is more difficult blablabla, more toys technically means more things that can fail)
- d segments also tend lose its resale value faster than c segments (depending on how you see it) you can go checkout s-classes vs e-classes market values
+elantra
- the smaller cheaper to run and maintain brother


QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jul 1 2016, 01:10 PM)
(http://www.fivestarhyundaiofmacon.com/2016-Hyundai-Elantra-vs-Sonata-Macon-GA.html) You can check the link that i have just sent to you.
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few issues here ya...
1)nonlocal site (means car specs might be dif)
2)the sonata does not even exist here
3)owai googling 'elantra n sonata' is not really helping unless you actually help narrow down the differences
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post Jul 1 2016, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(face @ Jul 1 2016, 04:02 PM)
but both same price as 2nd hand car == which should i pick ?
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imo its really about what/need you want in a car and if you can afford it....
as mentioned, one will cost you more in to run ..... tax, insurance, fuel, tyres all cost more for the sonata.

why did you narrow down your choices to this 2 in the first place? Theree has to be several reasons.
you should figure out what you want in a car first. do you need the space? is it about the image of the car?(sporty/luxurious/classy kinda car) what about maintanance (some here say kimchis cost around the same to maintain and are as easy to maintain as a similarly classed sushi car. i would like to disagree, but have no evidence to back me up unless it comes to chevy.... then i have lots to say)

side note: you should really mention what year, spec cars you are comparing...... maybe even an example would be great
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QUOTE(zenix @ Jul 1 2016, 07:16 PM)
Yes, they're like twins.
One pretty another ugly.
But on the inside they're the same.
Usually upkeep is all about maintenance cost and spare parts cost.
So that usually means engine/aircon/gearbox/suspension.
Since these two share the same stuff then it is like Proton Wira using Mitsubishi Lancer parts or vice versa.
I think the door panels are compatible but definitely the front and back are incompatible.
But like I said those only need to be changed if an accident happen if nothing happens you don't need to change.
Usually for accident either own insurance or 3rd party insurance pay so the cost for those things aren't really a factor for me.
Which is why keeping a Galant for me is kinda cheap coz just use Perdana parts  laugh.gif
Talking about Perdana here is some info...

Perdana G1 = 1994-1997
Perdana G2 = 1997-2010 (although it was discontinued earlier)
Perdana G3 = 2010-2016 (CKD Accord 8gen rebadged)
Perdana G4 = 2016-now (Accord 8gen reskin/makeover)

The most funny part about the Perdana G4 is not the fake exhaust everyone does it now but the ESC.
Proton shouting everywhere even the smallest of their cars the Iriz has ESC even the base model.
But Perdana G4 2.0 tarak ESC while Accord 8gen all spec got VSA.

VSA = ESC = stability control
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i knew that the base 2.0 had no ESC.... when its funny when you compare them like that.... doh.gif
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post Jul 2 2016, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Lovemyfamily @ Jul 2 2016, 02:53 PM)
Do you mind to explain why?
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Don't mind him, he is just 'overenthusiastic'.... This is me being as nice as I can be
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post Jul 3 2016, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jul 3 2016, 10:58 AM)
You guys sure are patient.
This bugger's reply annoyed the hell out of me as a reader.
Yes yes please go and buy all the proton cars for all we care since they're that good (according to you, that is).
And you're not gonna fvcking convince anyone by using words like "Enough I win", "Enough talk. I win", this is a public forum for people to seek help and discuss opinions, if you want to win go play games/whatever.

I hope you're not Proton salesman or something.
You're the kind of people who spoils their image more. (if they have any more left)
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sometimes i cringe when he replies. I only fear one day someone actually takes his reply seriously but that's about it, public forums so i guess he can do what he wants long as he aint breaking any rules blink.gif

what i dont understand is, why he wants to buy a car when he does not have a license.... bangwall.gif
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post Jul 3 2016, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jul 3 2016, 06:45 PM)
ok guys i am sorry about it. smile.gif It is Ok. May I know which proton car is a better car for me to drive when i am going to have driving license in august 2016? I want a proton car that beat honda,nissan,toyota and mazda and hyundai and kia cars  in terms of handling,performance,suspension,nvh,comfortable seat, reliability,engine,safety and others
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u gona try beat them in all the aspects (in italics) listed? good luck.....
one example, a gtr beats any proton in handling,performance,suspension,nvh,comfortable seat, engine,safety BUT maybe not in reliability
so option 2, mark x, in all the mentioned aspects, probably considered the winner~
*note that noone mentioned price, running costs or maintenance

conclusion: i think you should wait maybe 50 years? maybe then proton will have a car that can beat the current cars the others have to offer.... yeah best you stay off the roads till then~
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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jul 3 2016, 07:52 PM)
Excessive trolling is an offence.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=boardrules
You guys are too soft.  rolleyes.gif
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i honestly wonder if he is just trolling or.... its really just the way he is......

but ..... that repork button is getting tempting

**wait ur right... me thinks someone reported him some time back.... too bad he was in bora bora when the forums were down for maintenance

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post Jul 3 2016, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jul 3 2016, 11:53 PM)
I am serious man and i am not trolling or joking because i want to know which proton can beat the car that i mention
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and i gave you a serious answer, at this point i dont even know why im even trying to come up with answers for you.... re-read what i said... the answer is pretty clear

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post Jul 4 2016, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Jul 4 2016, 09:50 AM)
Now ask your mother wants whether wants a MPV (if big family) or Compact/hatchback car.

Decide this and u have already got the long awaited answer to your questionsssss.
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after soooooo long, after repeatedly asking fr a budget, finally a number pops out~~

have to say im impressed


*wana point out, the only 'new' toyota or nissan you can get your hands on is the almera, so whats the point of even comparing~

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