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 NVIDIA GeForce Community V16 (welcum pascal), ALL HAIL NEW PASCAL KING GTX1080 out now

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post Jul 10 2016, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(svfn @ Jul 10 2016, 08:34 PM)
Wah, the RX480 is much faster than the 1060 in Ashes. I guess it's expected if the game utilizes a lot of actual asynchronous compute.

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post Jul 10 2016, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jul 10 2016, 03:46 AM)
well this is info according to what lowyat reported, below is the article i'm referring to
http://www.lowyat.net/2016/109080/nvidia-g...around-rm-1000/
haiyoh lowyat.net article always mislead like that wan la.

I've already given the price here http://www.goldfries.com/tech-news/nvidia-...nd-performance/

And not long after my estimation, I also received ACTUAL price for the goods already.

It's definitely not RM 1,000 or even around it.
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post Jul 10 2016, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(guguzhiao @ Jul 10 2016, 11:19 AM)
i don't think the 1060 is going to beat the 980. Here's why.

760 never beat the 680

960 never beat the 780

its a logical move for nVidia to keep their product stack streamlined so that people know what to expect in next line of cards.

Its basically the same with the x80Ti as well

970 was similar to 780Ti
1070 is similar to 980Ti.

The is a pattern to nVidia's relase so its quite predictable.
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1060 doesnt follow the previous pattern. The lack of SLI fingers is telling you that it is more powerful than previous x60.
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post Jul 10 2016, 09:37 PM

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post Jul 10 2016, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Jul 10 2016, 02:28 PM)
Err....nVidia never promised 1060 is going to beat the 980. They only said it will have 980 performance at cheaper price/power consumption, means it will match the 980; does not guarantee will beat it.

Your comparison from the history is not relevant anymore because AMD did not have a product like RX480 at mainstream price back then. Also:
1) GTX1060 is directly aimed at beating RX480 (USD239 for 8GB RAM version)
2) RX480 performs in between of GTX970 and GTX980
3) So to beat RX480, GTX1060 needs to match GTX980
4) nVidia excludes the SLI connectivity from GTX1060. This means GTX1070 could be beaten by 2 GTX1060 if there is SLI.
but hor, actually GTX 970 performs around the GTX 970, far from being anywhere near the GTX 980.

That aside, what you said is correct - around GTX 980 performance but doesn't mean beat it. More like in between 970 and 980.

btw to beat RX 480 it doesn't have to match GTX 980. It just has to give same or better price to performance ratio.

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 10 2016, 09:36 PM)
1060 doesnt follow the previous pattern. The lack of SLI fingers is telling you that it is more powerful than previous x60.
The price of the 1060 is amazing. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 10 2016, 09:38 PM)
but hor, actually GTX 970 performs around the GTX 970, far from being anywhere near the GTX 980.

That aside, what you said is correct - around GTX 980 performance but doesn't mean beat it. More like in between 970 and 980.

btw to beat RX 480 it doesn't have to match GTX 980. It just has to give same or better price to performance ratio.
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To shut the mouths of noisy AMD fanbase, it's not enough. Hence why the need to have at least a 980 performance. Anything else is icing on the cake.

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 10 2016, 09:39 PM)
The price of the 1060 is amazing. biggrin.gif
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Not gonna comment on that until the price info is out. This country, if Dear Leader says tomorrow got special tax for GTX1060, it'll go up just on his whim.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 10 2016, 09:43 PM)
Not gonna comment on that until the price info is out. This country, if Dear Leader says tomorrow got special tax for GTX1060, it'll go up just on his whim.
I heard it starts from RM 1249. biggrin.gif Price varies depending on model, can be RM 13xx range. I think FE should be 1500 - 1600 range.

*Nope, I did not sign any NDA.
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QUOTE(letze @ Jul 10 2016, 09:37 PM)
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All kind of tactic to clear stock now biggrin.gif RM100 steam wallet actually not bad, if can buy online with discount then even better tongue.gif

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 10 2016, 10:01 PM)
I heard it starts from RM 1249. biggrin.gif Price varies depending on model, can be RM 13xx range. I think FE should be 1500 - 1600 range.

*Nope, I did not sign any NDA.
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If 12XX-13XX I guess it's good price.
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Not gonna comment until it's right there on a flyer, or a customer actually purchased it at that price. Only then I'll shove this in the face of those noisy AMD fanbase.
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post Jul 10 2016, 10:25 PM

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isnt in between 970 and 980 same as rx480? blink.gif

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http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardw...-review-24.html

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post Jul 10 2016, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(svfn @ Jul 10 2016, 10:25 PM)
isnt in between 970 and 980 same as rx480?
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Not really.. in between has 3 possibilities: near GTX970, near GTX980, middle of GTX970 and GTX980.

RX480 is more like near GTX970. I suspect GTX1060 will be near GTX980.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 10 2016, 10:01 PM)
I heard it starts from RM 1249. biggrin.gif Price varies depending on model, can be RM 13xx range. I think FE should be 1500 - 1600 range.

*Nope, I did not sign any NDA.
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Can't wait for review already. so that i can decide on gtx1060 or gtx1070 rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jul 10 2016, 10:38 PM)
Not really.. in between has 3 possibilities: near GTX970, near GTX980, middle of GTX970 and GTX980.

RX480 is more like near GTX970. I suspect GTX1060 will be near GTX980.
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Damn confusing this one rclxub.gif .....may be easier to say, 1060 nearer to GTX980?
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QUOTE(jonathan_k @ Jul 10 2016, 10:41 PM)
Can't wait for review already. so that i can decide on gtx1060 or gtx1070 rclxms.gif
Oh I will be doing live session for the GTX 1060. I just don't have the date yet, maybe this week. Hopefully Wed / Thu.

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QUOTE(svfn @ Jul 10 2016, 10:25 PM)
isnt in between 970 and 980 same as rx480?
Nope, it's generally around GTX 970. Not even halfway point between GTX 970 and GTX 980 unless you consider certain games that favor AMD GPU.

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jul 9 2016, 07:37 AM)
haha same here

being on the x70 range 4 3 years and it is time 2 jump bigger with x80TI range instead of x80 range devil.gif

also already itching 2 jump 4k soon hahahaha
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yeah.... but I'm planning 1440p with 120hz instead...
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jul 10 2016, 10:38 PM)
Not really.. in between has 3 possibilities: near GTX970, near GTX980, middle of GTX970 and GTX980.

RX480 is more like near GTX970. I suspect GTX1060 will be near GTX980.
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hope it near gtx 980 with single 6 pin. So i don't need change my 360 watt psu sweat.gif RM1200 is a nice price.
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The only reason why RX480 cheerleaders are saying their card is 970OC is because of that Der8auer youTube video. He is an extreme overclocker, who has removed the power limit and programmed it so via attachment/solder to another PCB that allows it to do so, and got high enough performance to call it "970OC/980". Not an "everyday use" setup, and certainly not something everyone can do.
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if gtx 1060 priced at RM1249 in malaysia. RX 480 will be officially RIP.

I am not feeling good for AMD this gen chip architecture. Don't hope too much for vera too.

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