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post Jun 24 2016, 10:21 AM, updated 9y ago

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Hi everyone,

I'm not sure am I in the correct discussion board, or is this topic been created,
looking forward to discuss and show case some of my best and your best latte arts photos poured by oneself.

any latteart enthusiasts in LYN?

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Want to make heart but failed miserably.

After hundreds of cups, kilos of coffees /matchas until now still cant make latte art even the most simple one like heart or rosetta.

Now gave up already.. Its been a month since my last attempt. 😂
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Dying art since you can just buy a template nowadays
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post Jun 24 2016, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Bujal.x @ Jun 24 2016, 10:33 AM)
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Want to make heart but failed miserably.

After hundreds of cups, kilos of coffees /matchas until now still cant make latte art even the most simple one like heart or rosetta.

Now gave up already.. Its been a month since my last attempt. 😂
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Hello there, great to hear from you, i was once like your result too, from experience i think you've steam too much foam into your milk, try lesser foam by lesser hissing during milk steaming process. smile.gif hope that would helps.
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QUOTE(GarubaSwey @ Jun 24 2016, 10:37 AM)
Dying art since you can just buy a template nowadays
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that's something at least on beverage though biggrin.gif
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post Jun 24 2016, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(antichrist @ Jun 24 2016, 10:38 AM)
Hello there, great to hear from you, i was once like your result too, from experience i think you've steam too much foam into your milk, try lesser foam by lesser hissing during milk steaming process. smile.gif hope that would helps.
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i dont have the luxury..i only have hario's hand cranked coffee grinder,a french press pot,350ml milk pitcher and battery operated milk frother that i bought from mr diy for less than rm10. since its hard to find milk frother tutorial my only method at that time was trial and error but man..i really really really suck at that. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Bujal.x @ Jun 24 2016, 10:52 AM)
i dont have the luxury..i only have hario's hand cranked coffee grinder,a french press pot,350ml milk pitcher and battery operated milk frother that i bought from mr diy for less than rm10. since its hard to find milk frother tutorial my only method at that time was trial and error but man..i really really really suck at that. biggrin.gif
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Hello there, to all the tools that you having I've been through that as well, there's a video in youtube which doing quite well by using a hot milk in a pitcher and a milk frother which he shows pouring a latteart as well, maybe u can try out.


https://youtu.be/-Fslq1PEMf8
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post Jun 24 2016, 02:20 PM

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Try 3D....fail miserably

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post Jun 24 2016, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(d33pbluez @ Jun 24 2016, 02:23 PM)
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Try 3D....fail miserably

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thats pretty cool man, youre into etching latte arts thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(d33pbluez @ Jun 24 2016, 02:23 PM)
Try 3D....fail miserably
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That 3D attempt was pretty cool, have to try it some day. Right now I'm just putting dollops of foam on my latte biggrin.gif

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post Jun 24 2016, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jun 24 2016, 02:29 PM)
That 3D attempt was pretty cool, have to try it some day. Right now I'm just putting dollops of foam on my latte biggrin.gif
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totally agree man, at least there's visible shape.
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QUOTE(antichrist @ Jun 24 2016, 03:28 PM)
thats pretty cool man, youre into etching latte arts  thumbsup.gif
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i did some pour too yet to upload here.... but most of the time i prefer etching arts

QUOTE(tishaban @ Jun 24 2016, 03:29 PM)
That 3D attempt was pretty cool, have to try it some day. Right now I'm just putting dollops of foam on my latte biggrin.gif
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Yeah it would be cool but alot of milk is going to waste also..... it take even more patient then etching

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post Jun 24 2016, 02:56 PM

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this is my best etching yet

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So anyone want colour on the latte art ?

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post Jun 24 2016, 03:00 PM

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Here are my general pour for level entry machine....abit messy pour

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post Jun 24 2016, 03:14 PM

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Last year's attempts
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post Jun 26 2016, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(d33pbluez @ Jun 24 2016, 02:56 PM)
this is my best etching yet

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So anyone want colour on the latte art ?

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Wow, thats cool, are those color edible?
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post Jun 26 2016, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(Kclee2002 @ Jun 24 2016, 03:14 PM)
Last year's attempts
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Hi there,thats not bad already, which cafe do u work btw?
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post Jun 26 2016, 11:00 AM

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Hi,

Here are some of the arts I attempted so far. So far, these are the better one with luck on my side. I believe my milk frothing/stretching is not consistent. 3 out 10s are good one. Hope someone can share their experience. Thanks

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post Jun 27 2016, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(antichrist @ Jun 26 2016, 10:44 AM)
Wow, thats cool, are those color edible?
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Yup they are, they just normal food coloring that can be purchase from supermarket shelf.
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post Jun 27 2016, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(ASAP @ Jun 26 2016, 11:00 AM)
Hi,

Here are some of the arts I attempted so far. So far, these are the better one with luck on my side. I believe my milk frothing/stretching is not consistent. 3 out 10s are good one. Hope someone can share their experience. Thanks

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like your rosetta, i think the main tip is to jiggle slowly but pour bit fast so that there will be more contrast biggrin.gif just my thought mate
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post Jun 27 2016, 09:19 AM

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Hi guys, good morning, my very first latteart video in YouTube, feel free to comment any

latteart video

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QUOTE(antichrist @ Jun 26 2016, 10:09 AM)
Hi there,thats not bad already, which  cafe do u work btw?
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im a home barista haha laugh.gif
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QUOTE(antichrist @ Jun 27 2016, 10:19 AM)
Hi guys, good morning, my very first latteart video in YouTube, feel free to comment any

latteart video
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Nice vids you got there..... the milk forth came out really nice and controllable.....what machine you used ? background look like you work at some cafes.....
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QUOTE(d33pbluez @ Jun 27 2016, 01:10 PM)
Nice vids you got there..... the milk forth came out really nice and controllable.....what machine you used ? background look like you work at some cafes.....
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Hi there in that video i was using Spirit from Kees Van Des Westen, this video were shot in cafe, but my home espresso machine is nuovo simonelli oscar

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QUOTE(antichrist @ Jun 27 2016, 02:34 PM)
Hi there in that video i was using Spirit from Kees Van Des Westen, this video were shot in cafe, but my home espresso machine is nuovo simonelli oscar
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man..... that machine from Kees Van Des Westen is sick..... dang nice machine..... thumbup.gif .... nuovo simonelli oscar cant produce such same result ? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(d33pbluez @ Jun 27 2016, 02:03 PM)
man..... that machine from Kees Van Des Westen is sick..... dang nice machine.....  thumbup.gif  .... nuovo simonelli oscar cant produce such same result ?  hmm.gif
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Why not? i thought oscar has the same tip as the one they use for barista championship? i believe they produce consistent pressure too!! unless its huge volume!

well done on all the arts!! notworthy.gif I'm still perfecting it!! bruce.gif
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QUOTE(Dan430 @ Jun 27 2016, 05:08 PM)
Why not? i thought oscar has the same tip as the one they use for barista championship? i believe they produce consistent pressure too!! unless its huge volume!

well done on all the arts!!  notworthy.gif  I'm still perfecting it!!  bruce.gif
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not with mod version..... the mod takes it to more high level steam pressure when release and the milk froth up very fast....try with soap water and it froth up in like 3 - 4 second ..... like raging bull when you hold their horn (never hold one before) rclxms.gif

damm it is close to raya, hope my loxeal reach me in time before the holiday... cry.gif

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post Jun 27 2016, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(d33pbluez @ Jun 27 2016, 02:03 PM)
man..... that machine from Kees Van Des Westen is sick..... dang nice machine.....  thumbup.gif  .... nuovo simonelli oscar cant produce such same result ?  hmm.gif
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Haha rm77k VS. Rm4k machine, i pretty sure result should be different,for milk wise i cant see any if both machine making just a cup of milk coffee, but the brew quality will be different.😁
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QUOTE(d33pbluez @ Jun 27 2016, 04:24 PM)
not with mod version..... the mod takes it to more high level steam pressure when release and the milk froth up very fast....try with soap water and it froth up in like 3 - 4 second ..... like raging bull when you hold their horn (never hold one before)  rclxms.gif

damm it is close to raya, hope my loxeal reach me in time before the holiday...  cry.gif
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About steaming milk, by frothing milk and frothing soap water will be totally different speed due to milk has more density, so i've been using oscar for 3 years, i think it has reasonable strength compare to NS Apia2, just my thought hahaha
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Hi all,

May I know how do you make consistent froth milk which suitable for latte art? How do you know the milk is just nice for latte art? Currently, my main problem is 3/10 cups too thick, 4/10 cups too thin, probably 3/10 cups are ok. So how do make it more consistent? Through experience? Is there any objective way to know? Thx
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QUOTE(ASAP @ Jun 27 2016, 06:29 PM)
Hi all,

May I know how do you make  consistent froth milk which suitable for latte art? How do you know the milk is just nice for latte art? Currently, my main problem is 3/10 cups too thick, 4/10 cups too thin, probably 3/10 cups are ok. So how do make it more consistent? Through experience? Is there any objective way to know? Thx
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Hello there, this require experience most of the part, if milk having too thick foam means that u need to reduce the hissing/chirping sound,

Lesser the foam the more fine details of your latteart can be, but difficult to pour as theres lesser foam to form a latteart.

More foam, the more cloudy latteart can be, but easier to pour as the foam helps to foam a shape easily but too much foam will end up oil painting.

If one is looking for consistency, then only 1 way is to practice more, even more than you should.

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Thanks. So basically the consistency of the milk is solely based on experience. I just hope we have tools or a way that we can have 100% consistency of stretched milk every time.

BTW, any expert tips while stretching the milk? Mine is ok now, like silky white paint with no bubbles, just need to ensure the right foam for latte art
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QUOTE(ASAP @ Jun 27 2016, 06:48 PM)
Thanks. So basically the consistency of the milk is solely based on experience. I just hope we have tools or a way that we can have 100% consistency of stretched milk every time.

BTW, any expert tips while stretching the milk? Mine is ok now, like silky white paint with no bubbles, just need to ensure the right foam for latte art
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Haha there's nobody expert here, but i know there's a tip that can prolong the steaming process that will be freeze your pitcher, so that will slow down the temperature raising up process while steaming the milk.

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QUOTE(antichrist @ Jun 27 2016, 06:54 PM)
Haha there's nobody expert here, but i know there's a tip that can prolong the steaming process that will be freeze your pitcher, so that will slow down the temperature raising up process while steaming the milk.
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Hmmm interesting on pitcher in freezer!! will try that tmr morning!! i believe milk plays an important role too in milk foam!! switching milk won't give you the consistency. what milk are you all using right now that works best?
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QUOTE(Dan430 @ Jun 27 2016, 09:09 PM)
Hmmm interesting on pitcher in freezer!! will try that tmr morning!! i believe milk plays an important role too in milk foam!! switching milk won't give you the consistency. what milk are you all using right now that works best?
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Im using farm house, but farm fresh, Magnolia's fresh milk works the same for me, but farm house has the sweetest taste, but after all skills matters the most i personally think so. 😁 Not saying I'm good but through my 3 years of repetitive doing the same thing will makes one rethink of everyday process.
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QUOTE(ASAP @ Jun 27 2016, 06:48 PM)
Thanks. So basically the consistency of the milk is solely based on experience. I just hope we have tools or a way that we can have 100% consistency of stretched milk every time.

BTW, any expert tips while stretching the milk? Mine is ok now, like silky white paint with no bubbles, just need to ensure the right foam for latte art
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Silky white no bubbles is great start... Swirl it a bit to see how viscous... If it's a bit thick... Do tulips and the likes... Rosettas and intricate patterns need thinner microfoam... Experience will tell... How much to foam to pour what...
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Pitcher size is also important.... 20oz is very different from 12oz... Also depends on how much you're foaming...

If you're a beginner... Use a bit more milk than you need this way you get more microfoam to play with...
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jun 28 2016, 01:08 AM)
Pitcher size is also important.... 20oz is very different from 12oz... Also depends on how much you're foaming...

If you're a beginner... Use a bit more milk than you need this way you get more microfoam to play with...
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i agree with this .... not only all comes down to personal preference of using the pitcher but also wastage and cup size your going to serve....

From my previous 20oz that i used always had excess every time i pour them ....with 12oz it just nice and better control for me when the milk is level below the spout also the factor of my serving is small ..... don forget milk will raise when they froth means you get extra more milk compare to when you pour before steam.

downside is that 12oz milk steam up really fast if you have machine that give high pressure steam.

QUOTE(antichrist @ Jun 27 2016, 10:23 PM)
Im using farm house, but farm fresh, Magnolia's fresh milk works the same for me, but farm house has the sweetest taste, but after all skills matters the most i personally think so. 😁 Not saying I'm good but through my 3 years of repetitive doing the same thing will makes one rethink of everyday process.
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Haha, i had try out many milk already.... basically you want to avoid dutch lady fresh milk,good day and also HL, and i find myself most of the time uses farm house, farm fresh, Pura and Magnolia fresh milk....
most of the cafe used magnolia fresh milk as my observation. i think it is much more creamer and easy to work with.

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Hey sifus, i have a couple of quick questions for you guys.
1) Is there a point of diminishing return in stretching milk?
2) How should the milk look like before pouring? Is the surface supposed to be smooth like regular milk or slightly foamy?
3) Why is it necessary to swirl the milk in the jug before pouring?
4) When i swirl the milk, the bit of milk that sticks to the sides are kinda foamy. Am i introducing too much air into the milk?

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QUOTE(CallMeGucci @ Jul 3 2016, 12:44 AM)
Hey sifus, i have a couple of quick questions for you guys.
1) Is there a point of diminishing return in stretching milk?
2) How should the milk look like before pouring? Is the surface supposed to be smooth like regular milk or slightly foamy?
3) Why is it necessary to swirl the milk in the jug before pouring?
4) When i swirl the milk, the bit of milk that sticks to the sides are kinda foamy. Am i introducing too much air into the milk?
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1) Overheating the milk or letting too much air in.
2) Milk should look like wet white paint, kinda shinny
3) To get rid of bubbles (sometimes need gentle taps) and to maintain the steamed milk composition, not too thick on top and not too thin on the bottom
4) Depends, how about the bottom part of the milk, is it too watery? Are you using a pannarello wand?

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QUOTE(CallMeGucci @ Jul 3 2016, 12:44 AM)
Hey sifus, i have a couple of quick questions for you guys.
1) Is there a point of diminishing return in stretching milk?
2) How should the milk look like before pouring? Is the surface supposed to be smooth like regular milk or slightly foamy?
3) Why is it necessary to swirl the milk in the jug before pouring?
4) When i swirl the milk, the bit of milk that sticks to the sides are kinda foamy. Am i introducing too much air into the milk?
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Im not pros just a basic person know basic stuff only....so here are my takes on your question.

1) Is there a point of diminishing return in stretching milk?
don over heat the milk or short heat the milk

2) How should the milk look like before pouring? Is the surface supposed to be smooth like regular milk or slightly foamy?
It is suppose to be shiny, thick and look like fresh wet paint from open paint can.How do you know, swirl you milk and you can see the wall of the pitcher, it is thick and stick to the picther wall like a paint stuck on the wall r compare to normal think milk that will just roll down the wall very fast.

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3) Why is it necessary to swirl the milk in the jug before pouring?
Yes and no, If you can steam without bubble and pour immediately after steam then is it not necessary, but most ppl did was after they steam the milk then they let if sit for few second because they are cleaning the steam wand or they tap the milk (tapping can cause separation too), once the milk sit on for a while, the microfoam begin to separate from the milk. so it is necessary need to swirl the milk to prevent the microfoam from separating the milk before pour.

4) When i swirl the milk, the bit of milk that sticks to the sides are kinda foamy. Am i introducing too much air into the milk?
Picture would be nice, foam as describe in light foam like those in detergent kind or think wet paint look ?

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where u guys get the milk from? from supermarket? any nice brand to intro?
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where u guys get the milk from? from supermarket? any nice brand to intro?
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Supermarket mostly.
The milk preference it depend on one's choice so you had to taste it to know which milk suit you. I would recommend magnolia fresh milk the one with the yellow box.


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Some say that it is the milk that closely similar to what starbucks is using but the trend preference now used by most cafe are the magnolia barista milk which not sold in the supermarket.

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QUOTE(d33pbluez @ Oct 19 2016, 08:42 AM)
Supermarket mostly.
The milk preference it depend on one's choice so you had to taste it to know which milk suit you. I would recommend magnolia fresh milk the one with the yellow box.
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Some say that it is the milk that closely similar to what starbucks is using but the trend preference now used by most cafe are the magnolia barista milk which not sold in the supermarket.

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limited choices in mydin, will try it at tesco next time...
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Bright Cow milk is also very good in splitting the crema, especially when you pull a double ristretto.

Unfortunately not available at supermarkets that I know.
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QUOTE(siauann @ Oct 27 2016, 11:22 AM)
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Impressive, may i know what's the brand of your coffee machine?
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QUOTE(d33pbluez @ Oct 19 2016, 08:42 AM)
Supermarket mostly.
The milk preference it depend on one's choice so you had to taste it to know which milk suit you. I would recommend magnolia fresh milk the one with the yellow box.
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Some say that it is the milk that closely similar to what starbucks is using but the trend preference now used by most cafe are the magnolia barista milk which not sold in the supermarket.

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from F&N's distributor sales staff told us, both actually are the same content just different packaging to market into different category, like cafes and supermarket.
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Hi everyone been idle in thread for a long time, above is what I've been trying to master call Slowsetta, practised this on 6oz cup.
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QUOTE(antichrist @ Nov 1 2016, 11:26 AM)
Impressive, may i know what's the brand of your coffee machine?
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The silver is the one currently using China machine. The black one is saeco poemia previously using
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QUOTE(antichrist @ Nov 1 2016, 12:28 PM)
from F&N's distributor sales staff told us, both actually are the same content just different packaging to market into different category, like cafes and supermarket.
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i see .... just wondering why F&N taking all the trouble just to design the box since they are selling the same milk even limited it to the market used with price so much different too.... it is quiet a mystery when they mention both are the same.... hmm.gif
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post Nov 8 2016, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(jeffck1984 @ Nov 7 2016, 11:19 PM)
Hi guys,

Anyone know where can learned latte and coffee arts or barista course in KL which is actively still going on?

Can PM me the details? Thanks.

Or any barista expert looking for partner to open café? Can learned from him/her while running the café together smile.gif
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if I'm not mistaken Q-Cup in jalan imbi offer some course!! check them out!! SCAA certified teaching lab! so you are in the pros hand in guiding you!!

No. 72A Jalan Imbi
55100 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
www.facebook.com/Qcup.coffeelab
TSantichrist
post Jan 8 2017, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(jeffck1984 @ Nov 7 2016, 11:19 PM)
Hi guys,

Anyone know where can learned latte and coffee arts or barista course in KL which is actively still going on?

Can PM me the details? Thanks.

Or any barista expert looking for partner to open café? Can learned from him/her while running the café together smile.gif
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Open cafe as in shop or kiosk?
TSantichrist
post Jun 28 2017, 09:33 PM

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Hi guys, I'm planning for opening classes, if you guys interested feel free to contact me here, you may check out my instagram account.

Instagram ID: rgb.latteart
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post Jun 30 2017, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(antichrist @ Jun 28 2017, 10:33 PM)
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Hi guys, I'm planning for opening classes, if you guys interested feel free to contact me here, you may check out my instagram account.

Instagram ID: rgb.latteart
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Based in KL ? hmm.gif
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post Jul 10 2017, 06:09 AM

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QUOTE(d33pbluez @ Jun 30 2017, 03:56 PM)
Based in KL ?  hmm.gif
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Hi, yeah it's behind Intermark KL, those bungalows, cafe / workshop is over there. Sorry for the late reply btw.

 

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