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timothyy
post Apr 23 2007, 04:08 PM

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2.5k hours? Panny recommends 2k-3k hours ma... so, time to change... and change the projector as well tongue.gif
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post Apr 23 2007, 04:53 PM

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No lah, I'm using low the power mode all the time which is suppose to be 5000hrs life! (I think)

Wish to change, expecially seeing you guys talking about 720P/1080P here.. but...will see..maybe join you guys to see some demos. brows.gif When???
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post Apr 23 2007, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(timothyy @ Apr 23 2007, 04:08 PM)
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2.5k hours? Panny recommends 2k-3k hours ma... so, time to change... and change the projector as  well tongue.gif
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Yalo,

Change for de newest AE1k and get it from Bro Tim at cutrate price of erh how much, bro???

A bit of publicity for u ... bro Tim
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post Apr 23 2007, 05:06 PM

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Also I paid close to $10K for the AE300 then, how to justify now? shakehead.gif
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post Apr 23 2007, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Apr 23 2007, 04:53 PM)
Yalo,

Change for de newest AE1k and get it from Bro Tim at cutrate price of erh how much, bro???

A bit of publicity for u ... bro Tim
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Come come... buy from me.... Kekekeke... brows.gif brows.gif
Then, I can go buy TW1000.
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QUOTE(Jack28HT @ Apr 23 2007, 05:06 PM)
Also I paid close to $10K for the AE300 then, how to justify now?  shakehead.gif
Any icon_idea.gif ?
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AX1000 only RM6k+...
And all Panny's bulb recommend 2000hr for normal mode and 3000 for eco mode.
But AE300? I donno la... not my time.

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post Apr 23 2007, 05:29 PM

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Aiya,

E gear cannot count like dat one ; if so ur 10k now worth less than 1k only and tat oso difficult to sell...

To me it is an expense pure and simple after buy it is worthless liao, all I can do now is to keep it running as long as possible...tats why must do research kau kau first before buying after tat not so regret....

No offence to anybody...
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post Apr 23 2007, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(Jack28HT @ Apr 23 2007, 04:02 PM)
Hi guys, it's my first post in LYN and hope to find some help. Hv used my panny AE300 for >3 years and logged >2.5K hours and bulb is dim. It's still OK 'cos it's in full light controlled room but what troubles me lately is the CRT pj like "burnt-in" problem, e.g.  after watching 4:3 or 2.35:1 movie and back to 1.78:1 movie, I would get "burnt-in" effect of seeing the previous AR "box" appearing in dimmer light ouput. However it will recover after a movie or 2 in the same AR. Anyone knows what's the problem? Aged bulb or aged LCD panel?

Is it time to upgrade? Have tried to find excuses to upgrade (getting the CFO's approval). biggrin.gif
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I have the exact same problem as yours. My panny AE200 "burnt-in" after 1000 hours of usage. It is getting more difficult to recover now. Sometimes, the projector has to be rested for a day to get back uniform light output for 1.78:1 movie.

It was due to the aged LCD panel. The aging problem of organic material in the LCD panel is the biggest weakness of LCD projector.

The latest LCD panels which are equipped on AE1000 and HC5000 are using inorganic material. Epson claimed that the new LCD panel has no more aging problem.

There is the only reason which is holding me back to upgrade to another LDC projector like TW700.

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QUOTE(peace228 @ Apr 23 2007, 08:41 PM)
I have the exact same problem as yours. My panny AE200 "burnt-in" after 1000 hours of usage. It is getting more difficult to recover now. Sometimes, the projector has to be rested  for a day to get back uniform light output for  1.78:1 movie.

It was due to the aged LCD panel. The aging problem of organic material in the LCD panel is the biggest weakness of LCD projector.

The latest LCD panels which are equipped on AE1000 and HC5000 are using inorganic material. Epson claimed that the new LCD panel has no more aging problem.

There is the only reason which is holding me back to upgrade to another LDC projector like TW700.
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Hmm, thanks for the confirmation on LCD aging problem. So you're eyeing on the AX1K, TW1K or HC5K now?

Tim, are you sure you can get AX1K at only 6K+? That's really tempting man.. sweat.gif What's your source?


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Wah... many veteran I see...
The force is strong I feel...
But buy new projector is best Kekekeke...
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post Apr 24 2007, 08:38 AM

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Actually Panny Ax1c(or 100) is circa 6k, de 1080p Ae1k(1000) is rrp'ed at 15k - street pricing may be cheaper...
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post Apr 24 2007, 10:50 AM

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To Jack28HT and peace228,

Wow, Home Theatre Projector veterans here.... an AE200 and an AE300 owner. Welcome to the discussion. I believe that your projectors have served you well...2.5k hours is very impressive indeed.

But 3 years or more has passed and the world of projectors have improved 10 fold since. If funds are not an issue, then I would advice that you go straight for a 1080p projector. Full HD is right around the corner and if I were to purchase one today, I would go for 1080p... prolly the JVC RS1 thumbup.gif

I have the Epson TW700 which I bought more than 2 months ago. Seems like ages ago now. Currently clocked over 50 hours with no major complains. Picture is sharp as a needle, enough lumens to view in the afternoon with bright sunlight filtering in from the outside. Colours so amazing that it pops out of the screen... or wall in my case. With Blacks unheard of for LCD at this price.

The Epson TW700 uses the D5 organic LCD panel, but there has not been any report of burn in on this panel. Incidently Panny also uses the same panel but it has encountered many problems compared to the Epson. This is probably due to an inherent design flaw with the Panny.

The only gripe I have with my Epson TW700 is that its a 720p projector and as such SDE is visible but only when I go looking for it. However if the movie is exciting and I am fully immersed in the storyline, I dun notice it at all.


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post Apr 24 2007, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(jasonlky @ Apr 24 2007, 10:50 AM)
To Jack28HT and peace228,

Wow, Home Theatre Projector veterans here.... an AE200 and an AE300 owner.  Welcome to the discussion.  I believe that your projectors have served you well...2.5k hours is very impressive indeed.

But 3 years or more has passed and the world of projectors have improved 10 fold since.  If funds are not an issue, then I would advice that you go straight for a 1080p projector.  Full HD is right around the corner and if I were to purchase one today, I would go for 1080p... prolly the JVC RS1 thumbup.gif

I have the Epson TW700 which I bought more than 2 months ago.  Seems like ages ago now.  Currently clocked over 50 hours with no major complains.  Picture is sharp as a needle, enough lumens to view in the afternoon with bright sunlight filtering in from the outside.  Colours so amazing that it pops out of the screen... or wall in my case.  With Blacks unheard of for LCD at this price.

The Epson TW700 uses the D5 organic LCD panel, but there has not been any report of burn in on this panel.  Incidently Panny also uses the same panel but it has encountered many problems compared to the Epson.  This is probably due to an inherent design flaw with the Panny. 

The only gripe I have with my Epson TW700 is that its a 720p projector and as such SDE is visible but only when I go looking for it.  However if the movie is exciting and I am fully immersed in the storyline, I dun notice it at all.
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Wahhhh... Rich man spotted... Just got TW700 now wanna go 1080p already. Kekekek...

I just sent in my Panny AX100. Hmmm...
They say it will take some time. I think they wanna fix it again but I knowthey have no slution to it.

So... I am back to 29" ASTRO for now.
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post Apr 24 2007, 12:10 PM

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Ha haha,

Bro Tim , tats de case of doing too much research liao - read read read and kena poison kau kau one ... hehehe. Well I am settled wif my humble 720p PJ and very happy wif it - like a kid in a candy shop now...

Now if only got more time to watch...
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Bro Tim, are you SURE you can get AX1K at only 6K+?????? shocking.gif




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post Apr 24 2007, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(kvn1080 @ Apr 24 2007, 02:02 PM)
Bro Tim, are you SURE you can get AX1K at only 6K+?????? shocking.gif
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Ah... ah... There is no such model la boss...

AX100 got, AE1000 got... but AX1000 may be coming soon tongue.gif

Anyway, AX100 ok le... can... sure can below RM6k also may be can...
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QUOTE(Jack28HT @ Apr 23 2007, 09:07 PM)
Hmm, thanks for the confirmation on LCD aging problem. So you're eyeing on the AX1K, TW1K or HC5K now?

Tim, are you sure you can get AX1K at only 6K+? That's really tempting man.. sweat.gif What's your source?
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I am not interested in 1080 projector now. Too many things have to be considered, the player, the sources and $$.

I am eyeing on 720P DLP projector now as my next upgrade.


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post Apr 24 2007, 04:35 PM

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Hi,

De introduction of Hd dvdp and BR(de other is HD cable sources) are one of de reasons dat de 1080p Pjs are getting so much airplay but of cos in de US and de richer countries ... here in Mal I think for this format to gain a following will take sum time and for HD TV - well if monopoly just to Astro I dunt think tis will happen anytime soon...

Anyway 720p is fine for me and for a few forummers here too ... at least we will be enjoying de big screen until sumthing else comes along in say 4/5 years time...

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QUOTE(timothyy @ Apr 24 2007, 11:42 AM)
Wahhhh... Rich man spotted... Just got TW700 now wanna go 1080p already. Kekekek...

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Not richlah, just saying if I buy today. But I ain't gonna change since I oledi have the Epson TW700. I will be staying with it for the forseable future... at least one year.
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Thanks Jason.
RS1 or HD1 is on my wish list only.. hoping for much better price includiing the source (waiting to build a powerful HTPC with "Quad Core" CPU) and also the AVR with HDMI 1.3 switching support and true HD audio decoding. But this will be at least another 2 years time. Maybe I should do research only for the time being... biggrin.gif and enjoy the AE300 while it lasts...

Sorry for the mistake on AX1K as I read Tim's message of AX1000 for RM6K. Maybe I dream too much on this..

peace228, mind to share your experience why you're looking at DLP instead of the AX100 or TW700 ? Is it the organic panel aging reason?

dirtrun, yaloh, someone should end this Astro monopoly thing soon, otherwise we'll never see the light of HDTV here... eventhough their Measat 3 launched recently is capable of delivering it. mad.gif . Already envy seeing our neighbor country enjoying it and discuss over their forum long time already.. where is Malaysia Boleh???


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I don't wan't to see an RS1 while I enjoy the current soon to be setup. You know that feeling when you feel yours is the best, but then another company launches one that is far superior to yours...

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