looking for reliable joven or alpha water heater

just a suggestion for safety purpose to install rcbo. i got mine install schneider electric brand. saw their demo during homedec last year if not mistaken

Check out ESH, prices are reasonable / slightly higher then online (shopee/lazada) but they do arrange installer at reasonable rate.
Panansonic, Joven, Alpha are the brands i would trust.

If your house has water pump, you do not need a dc pump. Saves yourself a good 100rm difference at least.
I made that mistake, however it comes in handy when you forget to on the water pump or pump is broken.

I feel all water heater is the same, my 15 year old basic panasonic heater is still working.
Cheapest range with pump is average 400-450rm. A fancy looking unit  may go up to 500+.
If you are good at electronics diy, you can easily replace a unit yourself at your OWN RISK and saves installation charges of 75-120rm.

Been using Panasonic, Joven and Alpha water heaters.
For Panasonic, the push start button can't last 3 years.
So I changed to Joven, used it for 7 years without any problem.
Retired the problem free Joven after 7 years due to my personal safety standard and changed to Alpha 18e (no pump) because of the new safety feature with smart auto self-test on the internal curcuit to check if there is any leakage on all electric components & parts and line fault indicator.  But one very important parameter that I overlooked on the Alpha is the minimum water pressure of 20kPa. If more than 2 water taps running at the same time, heater cut off too easily due to not enough water pressure. My previous Joven heater only requires 10kPa min pressure and it hardly gave me sudden cold water during shower.
However, just slightly over 2 years of usage, one of my Alpha 18e self detected an internal fault and rendered the heater totally useless. So I replaced it with a new Joven SA10E. This model has EELS safety feature such as built in 10mA automatic electrical leakage detector and surge protector. Of course, I make sure that this new Joven SA10E can also take minimum 10kPa of water pressure.

My shop has been selling joven for about 10 years, very little problem and that is why we only sell one brand til today

Check out ESH, prices are reasonable / slightly higher then online (shopee/lazada) but they do arrange installer at reasonable rate.
Panansonic, Joven, Alpha are the brands i would trust.

If your house has water pump, you do not need a dc pump. Saves yourself a good 100rm difference at least.
I made that mistake, however it comes in handy when you forget to on the water pump or pump is broken.

I feel all water heater is the same, my 15 year old basic panasonic heater is still working.
Cheapest range with pump is average 400-450rm. A fancy looking unit  may go up to 500+.
If you are good at electronics diy, you can easily replace a unit yourself at your OWN RISK and saves installation charges of 75-120rm.

hi, mind to share the details with pictures?

not able to take photo now but here's schneider electric link in regards to the rcbo. have a video as there well
https://www.se.com/my/en/work/products/product-launch/rcbo/

nice, didn't know there is a new type of device combining MCB and RCCB !

THANKS!

I am not a specialist, yet I have been seeing heat pump water heaters lately. By and large, heat pump water radiators set aside cash by expelling undesirable warmth from the room that they are in, and placing it into warming the water. A great many people have them in a carport or storm cellar. On the off chance that it is in a room that is warmed by a heat pump, at that point you will pay twice to warm the water. In the event that it is in a room that is cooled, you will set aside cash by warming your water with the force that would normally waste the heat outdoors. Understand that there is as yet electric heating components in the water heater that may come on as reinforcement. You additionally need a channel for the buildup. There will likewise be commotion from the fan and pump.

Likewise, you should look at the expense of gas and electric in your general vicinity for warming to make sense of which is less expensive for you. There are online number crunchers that can enable you to look at.

Check out ESH, prices are reasonable / slightly higher then online (shopee/lazada) but they do arrange installer at reasonable rate.
Panansonic, Joven, Alpha are the brands i would trust.

If your house has water pump, you do not need a dc pump. Saves yourself a good 100rm difference at least.
I made that mistake, however it comes in handy when you forget to on the water pump or pump is broken.

I feel all water heater is the same, my 15 year old basic panasonic heater is still working.
Cheapest range with pump is average 400-450rm. A fancy looking unit  may go up to 500+.
If you are good at electronics diy, you can easily replace a unit yourself at your OWN RISK and saves installation charges of 75-120rm.

Check out ESH, prices are reasonable / slightly higher then online (shopee/lazada) but they do arrange installer at reasonable rate.
Panansonic, Joven, Alpha are the brands i would trust.

If your house has water pump, you do not need a dc pump. Saves yourself a good 100rm difference at least.
I made that mistake, however it comes in handy when you forget to on the water pump or pump is broken.

I feel all water heater is the same, my 15 year old basic panasonic heater is still working.
Cheapest range with pump is average 400-450rm. A fancy looking unit  may go up to 500+.
If you are good at electronics diy, you can easily replace a unit yourself at your OWN RISK and saves installation charges of 75-120rm.

you wouldnt recommend Hydro One?

Very fast heat up and support is good

How long have you been using it?

I'm only choosing between this 2 brands my storage water heater;
Joven due to the brand
Hydro1 due to its claims on safety and savings

Price breakdown

Joven JH25 RM550
Joven JH35 RM660
Installation RM150

Total RM700/810

Hydro1 Eco RM800
Installation RM300-400
Total RM1100-1200

However the price points are too far off.
Not sure if it is worth it to top up at least RM400 for Hydro1.
Are their claims of both the safety and savings really hold any water?

You see the reply in y4ng"?

Ecoheater came once cos the board was burnt. According to them, they said I switched on without water in it.

No water also cannot detect and switch off itself. Where is the safety?    Damn stupid reply. I think that was not the reason for failure.