Jul 18 2019, 03:23 PM
QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jul 3 2016, 02:56 AM)
Been using Panasonic, Joven and Alpha water heaters.
For Panasonic, the push start button can't last 3 years.
So I changed to Joven, used it for 7 years without any problem.
Retired the problem free Joven after 7 years due to my personal safety standard and changed to Alpha 18e (no pump) because of the new safety feature with smart auto self-test on the internal curcuit to check if there is any leakage on all electric components & parts and line fault indicator. But one very important parameter that I overlooked on the Alpha is the minimum water pressure of 20kPa. If more than 2 water taps running at the same time, heater cut off too easily due to not enough water pressure. My previous Joven heater only requires 10kPa min pressure and it hardly gave me sudden cold water during shower.
However, just slightly over 2 years of usage, one of my Alpha 18e self detected an internal fault and rendered the heater totally useless. So I replaced it with a new Joven SA10E. This model has EELS safety feature such as built in 10mA automatic electrical leakage detector and surge protector. Of course, I make sure that this new Joven SA10E can also take minimum 10kPa of water pressure.
my current home also using Joven.... A bit loud noise by strong water... For Panasonic, the push start button can't last 3 years.
So I changed to Joven, used it for 7 years without any problem.
Retired the problem free Joven after 7 years due to my personal safety standard and changed to Alpha 18e (no pump) because of the new safety feature with smart auto self-test on the internal curcuit to check if there is any leakage on all electric components & parts and line fault indicator. But one very important parameter that I overlooked on the Alpha is the minimum water pressure of 20kPa. If more than 2 water taps running at the same time, heater cut off too easily due to not enough water pressure. My previous Joven heater only requires 10kPa min pressure and it hardly gave me sudden cold water during shower.
However, just slightly over 2 years of usage, one of my Alpha 18e self detected an internal fault and rendered the heater totally useless. So I replaced it with a new Joven SA10E. This model has EELS safety feature such as built in 10mA automatic electrical leakage detector and surge protector. Of course, I make sure that this new Joven SA10E can also take minimum 10kPa of water pressure.
QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jul 3 2016, 04:45 PM)
My shop has been selling joven for about 10 years, very little problem and that is why we only sell one brand til today
where is your shop? QUOTE(dudester @ Jul 17 2019, 10:34 AM)
Check out ESH, prices are reasonable / slightly higher then online (shopee/lazada) but they do arrange installer at reasonable rate.
Panansonic, Joven, Alpha are the brands i would trust.
If your house has water pump, you do not need a dc pump. Saves yourself a good 100rm difference at least.
I made that mistake, however it comes in handy when you forget to on the water pump or pump is broken.
I feel all water heater is the same, my 15 year old basic panasonic heater is still working.
Cheapest range with pump is average 400-450rm. A fancy looking unit may go up to 500+.
If you are good at electronics diy, you can easily replace a unit yourself at your OWN RISK and saves installation charges of 75-120rm.
where is ESH now ya? / I thought wind up already...Panansonic, Joven, Alpha are the brands i would trust.
If your house has water pump, you do not need a dc pump. Saves yourself a good 100rm difference at least.
I made that mistake, however it comes in handy when you forget to on the water pump or pump is broken.
I feel all water heater is the same, my 15 year old basic panasonic heater is still working.
Cheapest range with pump is average 400-450rm. A fancy looking unit may go up to 500+.
If you are good at electronics diy, you can easily replace a unit yourself at your OWN RISK and saves installation charges of 75-120rm.
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