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Looking for good water heater, water heater with pump preferable
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TStattoo
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Jun 15 2016, 01:54 PM, updated 10y ago
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any recommendation , visited to shop ,most of the shop introduce midea and deka ,but for my self ,i more prefer on panasonic and joven but when i ask about this 2 brand ,they told me not good ,but how can midea and deka better than panasonic and joven heater ,end up ,i decided not to buy and come here and ask
i dun mind pay extra for a better water heater ,safety first
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ozak
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Jun 15 2016, 04:24 PM
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Just get the Panasonic.
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aeiou228
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Jul 3 2016, 01:56 AM
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Been using Panasonic, Joven and Alpha water heaters. For Panasonic, the push start button can't last 3 years. So I changed to Joven, used it for 7 years without any problem. Retired the problem free Joven after 7 years due to my personal safety standard and changed to Alpha 18e (no pump) because of the new safety feature with smart auto self-test on the internal curcuit to check if there is any leakage on all electric components & parts and line fault indicator. But one very important parameter that I overlooked on the Alpha is the minimum water pressure of 20kPa. If more than 2 water taps running at the same time, heater cut off too easily due to not enough water pressure. My previous Joven heater only requires 10kPa min pressure and it hardly gave me sudden cold water during shower. However, just slightly over 2 years of usage, one of my Alpha 18e self detected an internal fault and rendered the heater totally useless. So I replaced it with a new Joven SA10E. This model has EELS safety feature such as built in 10mA automatic electrical leakage detector and surge protector. Of course, I make sure that this new Joven SA10E can also take minimum 10kPa of water pressure.
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zheilwane
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Jul 3 2016, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jul 3 2016, 01:56 AM) Been using Panasonic, Joven and Alpha water heaters. For Panasonic, the push start button can't last 3 years. So I changed to Joven, used it for 7 years without any problem. Retired the problem free Joven after 7 years due to my personal safety standard and changed to Alpha 18e (no pump) because of the new safety feature with smart auto self-test on the internal curcuit to check if there is any leakage on all electric components & parts and line fault indicator. But one very important parameter that I overlooked on the Alpha is the minimum water pressure of 20kPa. If more than 2 water taps running at the same time, heater cut off too easily due to not enough water pressure. My previous Joven heater only requires 10kPa min pressure and it hardly gave me sudden cold water during shower. However, just slightly over 2 years of usage, one of my Alpha 18e self detected an internal fault and rendered the heater totally useless. So I replaced it with a new Joven SA10E. This model has EELS safety feature such as built in 10mA automatic electrical leakage detector and surge protector. Of course, I make sure that this new Joven SA10E can also take minimum 10kPa of water pressure. Great info, seems like Joven is more reliable
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nexona88
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Jul 3 2016, 03:31 PM
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using Joven one.. so far so good  hope can last long
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zheilwane
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Jul 3 2016, 03:45 PM
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My shop has been selling joven for about 10 years, very little problem and that is why we only sell one brand til today
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sentinal3_16
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Jul 3 2016, 04:19 PM
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Joven good Malaysian brand made in Malaysia.
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aeiou228
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Jul 3 2016, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jul 3 2016, 03:45 PM) My shop has been selling joven for about 10 years, very little problem and that is why we only sell one brand til today Bro, The Joven SA10E has a built in 10mA automatic electrical leakage detector. What is the different between this 10mA detector and the external 10mA RCCB as per recommendation by Suruhanjaya Tenaga below:
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weikee
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Jul 3 2016, 04:53 PM
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Panasonic, Joven, centon, are good. Rinnai also good, but they seldom promote their heatee water here in Malaysia.
Without pump lifespan will be longer, with built-in pump, the lifespan will be shorter. I changed 3 water heater with built-in pump, while my mom room using direct water and no built-in pump is still running.
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nexona88
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Jul 3 2016, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jul 3 2016, 03:45 PM) My shop has been selling joven for about 10 years, very little problem and that is why we only sell one brand til today true. been using joven.. so far so good will recommend people to buy
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MonGJiHyo
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Jul 3 2016, 11:28 PM
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Panasonic or Joven
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TStattoo
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Aug 4 2016, 10:35 PM
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Where to purchase Joven at cheap price ? lazada or 11street since they got voucher discount .
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peri peri
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Aug 5 2016, 10:19 AM
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panasonic. so many years not headache given. make sure you using filtered water
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TStattoo
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Aug 5 2016, 02:26 PM
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so joven or panasonic water heater better ?
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newaythem3
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Aug 5 2016, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Aug 5 2016, 10:19 AM) panasonic. so many years not headache given. make sure you using filtered water can share the model?
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peri peri
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Aug 5 2016, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(newaythem3 @ Aug 5 2016, 02:30 PM) not sure now what model, coz i did not change every year. haha
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newaythem3
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Aug 5 2016, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Aug 5 2016, 02:31 PM) not sure now what model, coz i did not change every year. haha oh.. I referring to the model you are using now, is which model..
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Jo@NJS
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Aug 5 2016, 02:47 PM
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Been using Joven PC838P for like 7-8 years and the motor made loud noises recently. So i used it for another few months before purchasing the same model using Lazada. Bought it for RM389.30 and the supplier was from Liam Hup Hardware in Shah Alam.
I was amazed that the spoiled unit still can be used till date, good stuff!!
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peri peri
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Aug 5 2016, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(newaythem3 @ Aug 5 2016, 02:43 PM) oh.. I referring to the model you are using now, is which model..  have to go back and check hoho
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newaythem3
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Aug 5 2016, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Aug 5 2016, 02:54 PM) have to go back and check hoho haha.. no problem bro.. still reading and survey now..
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