QUOTE(engineer @ Sep 25 2025, 11:25 AM)
How you know I didn't make more than the 100% in BABA when I move my capital else where? I have more than 10 stocks that have 100% and above.
Sure. USA Stock Discussion v8, Brexit: What happens now?
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Sep 25 2025, 11:40 AM
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Sep 25 2025, 11:51 AM
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as a noob, i just buy broad market etf and observe and read all the trades that you guys made here.
i dont mind having a return similar or slightly lower return than the market. |
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Sep 25 2025, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(engineer @ Sep 25 2025, 11:25 AM) How you know I didn't make more than the 100% in BABA when I move my capital else where? I have more than 10 stocks that have 100% and above. I have never ever owned a stock that has gone 100% up. You must have made a lot of money trading US stocks! May I ask since when did u start trading US stocks? |
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Sep 25 2025, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(swiss228 @ Sep 25 2025, 06:23 PM) I have never ever owned a stock that has gone 100% up. You must have made a lot of money trading US stocks! May I ask since when did u start trading US stocks? I have so many make 2-3x. The trick is BTFD, let your winners run. Do not be tempted to take profit. swiss228 liked this post
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Sep 25 2025, 06:53 PM
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Stock trading in Malaysia subjected to income tax?
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Sep 25 2025, 07:40 PM
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Sep 25 2025, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Sep 25 2025, 07:40 PM) Then if your trading income is more than your main, ie full time job income, does that mean trading is your main income?My point is since over here there has been mentioned passive income > salary, does one even declare as income per se This post has been edited by OPT: Sep 25 2025, 07:49 PM |
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Sep 25 2025, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 25 2025, 06:40 PM) I have so many make 2-3x. The trick is BTFD, let your winners run. Do not be tempted to take profit. Nowadays, I am mostly doing buy and hold s&p etfs, and try using options to better the returns of these etfs. Like you suggested, selling OTM puts to generate some income, and selling OTM calls. hondaracer liked this post
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Sep 25 2025, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(OPT @ Sep 25 2025, 07:46 PM) Then if your trading income is more than your main, ie full time job income, does that mean trading is your main income? From what I understand, we do not have capital gain tax. As for local dividend, we will only be tax after the first 100k. Dividend from oversea is tax free provided the dividend you received have been accounted for withholding tax if the countries that you are trading with have signed double taxation avoidance agreement.My point is since over here there has been mentioned passive income > salary, does one even declare as income per se |
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Sep 25 2025, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 25 2025, 07:55 PM) From what I understand, we do not have capital gain tax. As for local dividend, we will only be tax after the first 100k. Dividend from oversea is tax free provided the dividend you received have been accounted for withholding tax if the countries that you are trading with have signed double taxation avoidance agreement. Capital gain is buy and hold.Dividend is straight forward and yes, there’s the new one recently for local dividend. Options and day trading whereby buy and sell on a regular basis is where it’s not clearly defined at the moment. There has been instances whereby day trading/regular buy-sell can be subjected to income tax as some highlighted. Same goes to crypto whereby recently it has been announced it’s subjected to tax even though guidelines are not clear at the moment. I am asking because I can see many are discussing on options trading winning 5 digits monthly in the other threads as well as the shorting in quantums of 6 figures and profiting high double digits in here…frequent buy and sell as far as I know is considered trading and is subjected to income tax. No? This post has been edited by OPT: Sep 25 2025, 08:45 PM |
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Sep 25 2025, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(swiss228 @ Sep 25 2025, 06:23 PM) I have never ever owned a stock that has gone 100% up. You must have made a lot of money trading US stocks! May I ask since when did u start trading US stocks? If you invest and hold, over 100% up is normal.I have even 2000% up stock. hondaracer, wongmunkeong, and 1 other liked this post
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Sep 25 2025, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(OPT @ Sep 25 2025, 08:43 PM) Capital gain is buy and hold. Then if I got losses can I deduct from my income tax?Dividend is straight forward and yes, there’s the new one recently for local dividend. Options and day trading whereby buy and sell on a regular basis is where it’s not clearly defined at the moment. There has been instances whereby day trading/regular buy-sell can be subjected to income tax as some highlighted. Same goes to crypto whereby recently it has been announced it’s subjected to tax even though guidelines are not clear at the moment. I am asking because I can see many are discussing on options trading winning 5 digits monthly in the other threads as well as the shorting in quantums of 6 figures and profiting high double digits in here…frequent buy and sell as far as I know is considered trading and is subjected to income tax. No? |
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Sep 25 2025, 10:15 PM
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Sep 25 2025, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(OPT @ Sep 25 2025, 08:43 PM) Capital gain is buy and hold. I think this is also known as short term capital gain which is still not taxable now, opposite is true for local properties or unlisted stock from local companies. Cannot find anything about short selling so I assumed it does not exist, same goes to option trading Dividend is straight forward and yes, there’s the new one recently for local dividend. Options and day trading whereby buy and sell on a regular basis is where it’s not clearly defined at the moment. There has been instances whereby day trading/regular buy-sell can be subjected to income tax as some highlighted. Same goes to crypto whereby recently it has been announced it’s subjected to tax even though guidelines are not clear at the moment. I am asking because I can see many are discussing on options trading winning 5 digits monthly in the other threads as well as the shorting in quantums of 6 figures and profiting high double digits in here…frequent buy and sell as far as I know is considered trading and is subjected to income tax. No? This post has been edited by Fantasia: Sep 25 2025, 10:18 PM |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 25 2025, 09:12 PM) I only started trading US stocks in about 2021. And, it could have taken me about a year before realizing that s&p based etf is the way forward. Before that, i just take profits whenever the stocks moved up. So, if u said you have stocks that moved up 2,000%, you must have held it for a long time. A HODL stock. |
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Tesla going red and also headlines about tesla on fire and the two kids that died due to door not opening. Seemed the shorts are working right now.
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Sep 26 2025, 06:44 AM
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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Sep 25 2025, 10:15 PM) No need legend. You just need to buy and hodl the right companies.Companies like Brookfield, Arthur J Gallagher are non tech and if you just buy and hodl easily few x. Everyone thinks have to hodl tech. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Sep 26 2025, 08:04 AM howyoulikethat liked this post
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Sep 26 2025, 07:13 AM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 25 2025, 06:40 PM) I have so many make 2-3x. The trick is BTFD, let your winners run. Do not be tempted to take profit. My first stock was Apple before Steve Jobs passed away and I still keep the apple stocks now. That's how long I have been investing. I accumulate stocks of great companies and hold long term. Ignore the market noise as long as the fundamentals of the companies are still good. Basically, don't cut the flowers and keep the weeds. Trimming the weeds will be fine. |
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