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Barricade
post Sep 18 2025, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(engineer @ Sep 18 2025, 07:53 AM)
Still holding the position? There's a slim window to escape last night. Rate cut might fuel the stock higher. Don't get me wrong, I'm not supporting Elon or Tesla, just curious what a short seller will do.
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The last time I heavily short TSLA was last year Dec, I remember I short around USD400 and it went up further around 15-20% if not mistaken. I held on my short position for a good 3-4 months and finally close around USD250. I have sufficient collateral, so I still sleep soundly at night.

I believe Bill Gates hold on to his short position for TSLA even longer - a year or even more. How about you ChAOoz, curious how long have you held your short position for TSLA?

To the one who have cold sweat, can't eat and sleep because of 1.44% change, better stick to ETF. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Barricade @ Sep 18 2025, 10:05 PM)
The last time I heavily short TSLA was last year Dec, I remember I short around USD400 and it went up further around 15-20% if not mistaken. I held on my short position for a good 3-4 months and finally close around USD250. I have sufficient collateral, so I still sleep soundly at night.

I believe Bill Gates hold on to his short position for TSLA even longer - a year or even more. How about you ChAOoz, curious how long have you held your short position for TSLA?

To the one who have cold sweat, can't eat and sleep because of 1.44% change, better stick to ETF.  rclxub.gif
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You are right, I am quite risk averse. I like to position size correctly and not take unnecessary risks. If I buy or sell, I don't do all in one go. As Jim Cramer said: come on, we can't be 100% right every time we enter a trade. Never buy/sell all in one trade. Needs to be staggered. Risk management is an important consideration for a successful trader.

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post Sep 18 2025, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Sep 18 2025, 10:05 PM)
The last time I heavily short TSLA was last year Dec, I remember I short around USD400 and it went up further around 15-20% if not mistaken. I held on my short position for a good 3-4 months and finally close around USD250. I have sufficient collateral, so I still sleep soundly at night.

I believe Bill Gates hold on to his short position for TSLA even longer - a year or even more. How about you ChAOoz, curious how long have you held your short position for TSLA?

To the one who have cold sweat, can't eat and sleep because of 1.44% change, better stick to ETF.  rclxub.gif
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Ive held my itm puts till its otm and expired cause I’m a greedy fool targeting 150 that time.

I’ll be less ambitious and aim for either 320 or 350 this round.
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post Sep 21 2025, 02:07 AM

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Braders...

At Friday market close, a large sell was placed in S&P futures contract...

Monday & Tuesday: ????? biggrin.gif

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post Sep 21 2025, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(Hastebreak @ Sep 21 2025, 05:07 AM)
Braders...

At Friday market close, a large sell was placed in S&P futures contract...

Monday & Tuesday: ????? biggrin.gif 

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I'm not suggesting anything...

If I have to give my opinion on this, I'd like to think that accumulation has begun... This is merely a preparation...


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post Sep 22 2025, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(poooky @ Sep 22 2025, 08:42 AM)
Thank you for recommendation. Some questions

1. CNQ on NYSE or CNQ.TO. Does it matter?
2. What do you think of ENB?
3. Any other dividend growth recommendations? CP still good? DBS still good after 50% up? Any recommendations for Telco sector like T or VZ?
4. Thoughts on JNJ, PG?
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1. No it doesn't matter. You can choose between CNQ or IMO. Choose whichever you want. Any Canadian stocks come with a 15% dividend tax cut.
2. I would stay away.
3. I got so many, applied materials, game workshop, Arthur J Gallagher/marsh, Brookfield corp, MSCI, Dominoes pizza, Costco, ADP, AJbell, Cal-Maine, Lotus Bakeries have your pick. If you want good management, irregular dividend growth sure. Why not?I am swapping my CN for CP when the price is right by selling puts and calls to collect money before making the switch.
I avoid Telco. I invest in the telco backbone though. Something I pick up while investing in reits. No matter the business, the one providing support to the Telco will always have to be paid even though the Telco is making losses. When you got a huge watchlist like me, you don't need to focus on DBS. There is always something to buy.
4. I will avoid. Better off with Novo Nordisk or abbvie. Better Costco than PG.

Don't follow me. Ask yourself what you want. I don't chase yield. I chase dividend growth. I prefer double digit dividend growth. Anything cannot give me double digit dividend growth you better come out with better capital appreciation (like Arthur J Gallagher). My style of investing is aggressive, unorthodox, automatic compounding and very long term. So it may not suit you.

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ChAOoz
post Sep 22 2025, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Sep 18 2025, 10:05 PM)
The last time I heavily short TSLA was last year Dec, I remember I short around USD400 and it went up further around 15-20% if not mistaken. I held on my short position for a good 3-4 months and finally close around USD250. I have sufficient collateral, so I still sleep soundly at night.

I believe Bill Gates hold on to his short position for TSLA even longer - a year or even more. How about you ChAOoz, curious how long have you held your short position for TSLA?

To the one who have cold sweat, can't eat and sleep because of 1.44% change, better stick to ETF.  rclxub.gif
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Closed my tesla shorts. Open long aapl instead.

Its been one week since elon buys news and if the momentum dont turn no point fighting against the current.
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post Sep 22 2025, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Sep 22 2025, 10:59 PM)
Closed my tesla shorts. Open long aapl instead.

Its been one week since elon buys news and if the momentum dont turn no point fighting against the current.
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Wise. No point against the force. Tesla is still a profitable company with ton of cash at the end. There are multiple catalysts (e.g. new car model lineups, AI, FSD, Robotaxi, Optimus, renewable energy etc). Even if there is pullback, it will be short-life before any of those hypes pumps the stock back up again. That's my analysis, not saying that I support Elon or the company.
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post Sep 22 2025, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Sep 22 2025, 10:59 PM)
Closed my tesla shorts. Open long aapl instead.

Its been one week since elon buys news and if the momentum dont turn no point fighting against the current.
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Good for you. As Elon and TSLA hater, I’m not selling, will increase my short position if breach 500. YTD I’m up almost 70% now due to BAIDU and UNH so I’m comfortable to take some risk.
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QUOTE(engineer @ Sep 22 2025, 11:46 PM)
Wise. No point against the force. Tesla is still a profitable company with ton of cash at the end. There are multiple catalysts (e.g. new car model lineups, AI, FSD, Robotaxi, Optimus, renewable energy etc). Even if there is pullback, it will be short-life before any of those hypes pumps the stock back up again. That's my analysis, not saying that I support Elon or the company.
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Never fight the trend by throwing everything you got. I am short on Tesla too, believing it to be overvalued and losing against China's EV competitors. I had faded the Tesla trade before, and I kept losing. I never learn, the only consolation i have is I trade smaller. Less than 5 Tesla shares won't kill me. A hundred might.
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QUOTE(Barricade @ Sep 22 2025, 11:53 PM)
Good for you. As Elon and TSLA hater, I’m not selling, will increase my short position if breach 500. YTD I’m up almost 70% now due to BAIDU and UNH so I’m comfortable to take some risk.
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Yeah im also not a fan of his. A piece of good news is recently a youtuber try to do fsd coast to coast no intervention. About 3% into the journey already hit some debris on the road and unable to finish the journey.

So much for Elon claim of california to new york unsupervised by 2017.
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post Sep 25 2025, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Sep 22 2025, 11:53 PM)
Good for you. As Elon and TSLA hater, I’m not selling, will increase my short position if breach 500. YTD I’m up almost 70% now due to BAIDU and UNH so I’m comfortable to take some risk.
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You can hate him but you don't have to put your money against him. That is illogical to me risking your savings against something that is really nothing significant to your live. My advice. Best wishes as Tesla is looking at $500 towards the end of the year.
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post Sep 25 2025, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(engineer @ Sep 25 2025, 07:25 AM)
You can hate him but you don't have to put your money against him. That is illogical to me risking your savings against something that is really nothing significant to your live. My advice. Best wishes as Tesla is looking at $500 towards the end of the year.
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Don’t be naive thinking my short is because of my feeling towards TSLA. I’m shorting because I think this company is overpriced. Did you buy if you’re so confident that Tesla is going to reach $500 towards the end of the year?
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QUOTE(Barricade @ Sep 25 2025, 08:02 AM)
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First the bad news about the declining car sales is already baked into the stock price long ago. Second investors don't view Tesla to be just a car company. Anyway, good luck the stock price is going even higher in the overnight market now.
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QUOTE(Barricade @ Sep 25 2025, 07:37 AM)
Don’t be naive thinking my short is because of my feeling towards TSLA. I’m shorting because I think this company is overpriced. Did you buy if you’re so confident that Tesla is going to reach $500 towards the end of the year?
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Full disclosure, I own Tesla stock but I don't care if the stock price is now down to $300 because my cost price is really really low at $20ish, i.e. more than 10x return. $500 prediction is from the wall street not mine.
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post Sep 25 2025, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(engineer @ Sep 25 2025, 08:53 AM)
First the bad news about the declining car sales is already baked into the stock price long ago. Second investors don't view Tesla to be just a car company. Anyway, good luck the stock price is going even higher in the overnight market now.
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Let’s just agree that you do your thing and I do mine. Sounds like you’re obsessed with my short and I’m living in your head rent free. I never care less about other’s trade. If I listen to the noise of strangers, public or “Wall Street” I will still be holding dearly to NVDA and not trading it with BABA/BIDU - which double my investment this year itself.

Even if I end up losing money on shorting TSLA, I’m ok with that because it’s purely my trading decision and it’s part of my calculated risk - rather than listening to “Wall Street” or forumers.

Example of irrelevant public noise:

BABA is up more than 100% YTD. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(engineer @ Sep 25 2025, 08:53 AM)
First the bad news about the declining car sales is already baked into the stock price long ago. Second investors don't view Tesla to be just a car company. Anyway, good luck the stock price is going even higher in the overnight market now.
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Investor have to look beyond just the car for next Elon challenge 1T pay package. For just the car, it's impossible to achieve.

So something is cooking behid Tesla. You can see Tesla no more puting the car as an ads.

Buy buy buy.


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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 25 2025, 10:16 AM)
Investor have to look beyond just the car for next Elon challenge 1T pay package. For just the car, it's impossible to achieve.

So something is cooking behid Tesla. You can see Tesla no more puting the car as an ads.

Buy buy buy.
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Yes, something is brewing. Just see the calls volume between $500-$550. Bull!

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Sep 25 2025, 09:24 AM)
Let’s just agree that you do your thing and I do mine. Sounds like you’re obsessed with my short and I’m living in your head rent free. I never care less about other’s trade. If I listen to the noise of strangers, public or “Wall Street” I will still be holding dearly to NVDA and not trading it with BABA/BIDU - which double my investment this year itself.

Even if I end up losing money on shorting TSLA, I’m ok with that because it’s purely my trading decision and it’s part of my calculated risk - rather than listening to “Wall Street” or forumers.

Example of irrelevant public noise:

BABA is up more than 100% YTD. tongue.gif

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How you know I didn't make more than the 100% in BABA when I move my capital else where? I have more than 10 stocks that have 100% and above.

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