Sure, it's worth celebrating, if you have not tasted what the RX480 can do 2 years back. Entry fee higher back then, have to wait 2 years now to taste what it is. Budget gamer category.

Look at it from the enthusiast point of view. Not super enthusiast that splurges on 980Ti or Titan X. Just enthusiast who had cash to spend on 970 2 years back. It is NOT a tall order to be able to afford the 970, 349USD. Price in RM locally fluctuates too wildly to rely as a steady reference between the devaluation of RM what it was previously and what it is now, so I'm gonna take the USD as the barometer.

Someone with a USD349 in his pocket 2 years ago have tasted what someone with a USD239 in his pocket now. The difference, USD110 is the price Nvidia users pay to be 2 years ahead of what AMD users are using now. That is where all my points are from, you pay USD110 to be ahead by 2 years. A performance that has been tasted 2 years ahead, isn't something worth celebrating now. It is only worth celebrating now if you have never tasted that performance 2 years ago, and can only taste it now because "the barrier", that performance entry fee, has dropped from USD349 to USD239. For that, I echo your sentiment. But for the lot of Nvidia users who make up the majority that had the 970 2 years back, it's nothing to shout about. Cool and awesome, the fraction of people that gets "left behind" now can finally get onto the performance "bus" and see what they missed, but the people who had been ahead, stays ahead, but at that price difference they paid for. In the case of 970 and 480, it's USD110.

Choice. At that point in time, users are faced with a choice. Pay that USD110 premium now, and hop onto that bandwagon now and experience it 2 years early, or choose not to pay that premium and get to experience it later. Some folks are okay with that USD110 premium to get ahead, some dont. Those who do (and there are lots of them, the 970 is a bestselling card) has 2 years head start ahead of those who decline to pay that premium 2 years early, and can only experience it now in the form of RX480.

Now you get why I said there's no big deal about it? It is a big deal if you declined to take up the premium of USD110 2 years ago. But the experience that used to cost USD349 2 years ago, becomes common and cheaper now, that at USD239, it's mostly "meh" to those who had taken the option to pay the premium and experience it early. Take it that USD110 is the price they pay to experience it earlier. Like movie tickets, release day movie tickets costs RM18 and no concession tickets for early bird special or half price on certain dates, UNTIL the movie grow stale and gone into the smaller theatre hall. Sure, you get to watch Star Wars Episode VII for RM7 when others get to watch it a month earlier at RM18-20. That's a big price difference. But only the ticket purchaser decides if it is worth watching it early, or if he wants to save and/or can only watch it when it's cheap. Guess where the bulk of money for movie box-office are made from?

So, me here, giving this RX480 a pat in the back, is like me congratulating someone who gets to watch Episode VII one month later. He gets to watch it cheap, but that's only because he can only get to see it while it's cheap. Others had watched it earlier, and the price to see it on release day is not CRAZY expensive either, unlike watching in GOLD CLASS cinema hall. See how anticlimactic that is?

If the release price figure for the 970 is not accurate, then replace them with whatever's accurate. The sentiment remains.

Can you confirm this? GTX1070 at only RM1,999? Its performance beats GTX980TI yet that affordable?

GTX1060 will KO RX480 if it priced just slightly higher, people don't mind forking out 200 extra for the better card.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3983179/all

RM1999. And yes, it matches 980Ti in some cases, and beats it in others.

I err...whaaaat?
This guys really is on a different level lol.

Did you or did you not agree with my statement because I didn't see a single argument or fact against my original statement in these long ass post.
I am a bit confused at what you're trying to achieve here, you came off as being denial in my opinion with all these excuse, diversion and an analogy (that is worse than a food analogy! Imagine that!)

I do think however, owe you an apology.
If I knew you were such an interesting person I wouldn't drag this argument this long, and just leave it cold like that.
It must be awful writing all those, and I apologize for making you do it.

Yep, almost 1:1 exchange rate with US price!
Can't wait for GTX 1060!

Hurrah for corporate rivalry~
Palit Jetstream look better and priced the same.
I'd go with Palit over Gigabyte for Nvidia.

Read. Comprehension required. Otherwise, I'll leave you with your anime.

I agreed with you on some point, but I encourage you to look from another perspective. From your way of posting, you only want people to see from your point of view.

My POV is FACT and DATA. Its a factual data, you can't see it in any different perspective.
Trying to spin it from a different view is what you have been doing all day long.
I have not attached my argument with emotion, analogy or reference.

Y Price before X existence = 1400
Y Price after X existence = RM1000

And thus X is the cause of Y price drop. The end.

Also why wouldn't anybody prefer this over Gigabyte stuff?

Wow wee...... Hooray!!   Uhm... I bought GPU already big waste if I dump the few months old R9 390X. I'll stick to it for 1-2 years before getting the newer GTX1080TI better. I'll pass the option to go crossfire unless R9 390X price drop to less than RM1k. Less likely local stores would do that, neither AMD. Back then maybe.

And I've mentioned that as common at every new GPU release. Why is this something that's significant? Has it happened any different? The RX480 causes the drop this time.

Card X causes the drop last year. Card Y causes the drop 2 years back. What's the big deal? It routinely happens.

...did you even try to read any single post I made?
I've already addressed this matter by stating this fact : For the past 5 years such drop in price have not happened.
Actually it doesn't, not by much.



You may not realize this, but the gpu generation jump have been almost stagnated by the same process that halted the GPU price/perf progression of the past 6 years.
Price declination is extremely snailpaced and made worse with our awful exchange rate and GST recently.

Also, you can stop looking through my post history and this personal attack lol.
You just make yourself look worse.

It doesn't change the market....yet here you are stating that you can get used GTX980 for RM1300 and GTX 970 for RM1000...
May I ask you one thing dear fellow LYN forumer, how much is the asking price of these used graphic cards used just a mere a month and a half ago?

I am a consumer, I don't give a fuck what or which company do as long as I benefit from either of them.
So please spare me these disappointments of yours and focus on the fact.

1 word Speculation. Gtx 1060 . Rx 480. Previous cards was undervalued. After rx480 review theres less 980 970 in the market bcos it was better
Point is ppl said amd lower card market price. Yes i do agree it does. But mainly not. More of because speculation and nvidia newer card itself. 1060 replacing 980 1070 replacing 980ti

What personal history and personal attack? I can clearly see your avatar there, dude. Pink haired anime girl. You however, insinuated way much more in this exchange that I've held my tongue more often than you have been. Even when you've  explained your points and I concur with them, and implore you to reciprocate with mine.

Oh you didn't mean it? I mean, why even bring it up?

Also, most of my attack is against your words and your words only.
Please do not take it personally, and I apologize if somehow you did.

The sad truth is mid range graphic cards for 1080p has moved up to the range of RM1.3K. Couple years back, it was around RM1K. We can all blame it on everything, but life will be better if we just accept it since we can't do much.

For me, there is a bit of disappointment in RX 480. First off, it is just a product to fill the gap before the flagship hits market. Secondly, the stupid power issue. Also, it does not provide a huge saving compared to similarly performing previous generation cards.

So I am going to forget about RX 480, and wait for GTX 1060. Hopefully it lives up to the hype of "980 performance".

RM3.3k GTX1080 beats all GPU Titan, GTX980TI  :thumbsup:
RM2k GTX1070 beats GTX980TI 
GTX1060 that beats GTX980 will be priced at affordable RM1.3k? 

GTX1060 that beats GTX980 will be priced at affordable RM1.3k

Before RX 480 existence GTX 970 used is within RM1200+ territory whilst used GTX 980 still hover around RM1600+.
You would still be paying these price if not because to RX 480, so how can you call it a disappointment when it is the main cause of these massive price drop?

Even if you dislike how RX 480 turned out, you could at least appreciate what it did to the market.

LOL you guys keep praising Nvidia's GTX 970.

Looks guys, GTX 970 is 2 years old, even 1 month ago still costs RM 1,700 and draws some 200W when in operation.

If RX480 is exactly like GTX 970 then I do understand your disappointment but this is not the case. It performs like GTX 970 at around 60% power consumption and at around 60% the price.

Another thing that you guys are doing wrong is you assume that all RX 480 is having power draw issue which is not the case.

This is unlike Nvidia's GTX 970 that's 3.5GB + 5GB confirmed for ALL of it.

Credit where it's due man. In every new generation of card there will be something that replaces the performance of another, RX 480 did just that with lower price and lower power draw.

Take the GTX 960 for example. It draws more power than RX 480, and performs like R9 380 and costs a bit more than the R9 380. With the RX 480, the GTX 960 doesn't even look attractive when priced at RM 800 range.

Anyway while you guys are insisting it's a disappointment, I will now go sulk at one corner because I am now not able to sell my GTX 960 / R9 390 for good price.