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post Sep 9 2009, 12:41 AM

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posting in LYN??
but dont in kopitiam.. laugh.gif
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post Sep 9 2009, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(z21j @ Sep 9 2009, 12:41 AM)
ok... english...

What is ur first language? Writing is very crucial especially when u want to further study in tertiary level or even though in working field. But y must u mix up english usage with ur thinking? Act, I know every could be a good writer, (if u r writing in ur 1st language). Try think this way... think the point 1st then only proceed. My teacher used to teach me to start up a writing with a point must have, of course a point, explanation or elaboration adn some example. And it's work! Dun ever think about ur english 1st, the thing is whether or not u dare to write more... The moment u can write... the moment u will feel confident... My advice, write as much without thinking of the grammar usage (Dont mistaken, Im not saying to IGNORE the grammar, just for u,  the first step is to practice writing.)
 
Trust me, when u r surrounded in english environment, (eg u r in university), ur english would be better than expected.
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plish dont pollow thish guy...his engrish sucks
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post Sep 9 2009, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(loki @ Sep 9 2009, 12:42 AM)
plish dont pollow thish guy...his engrish sucks
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Thank q for your comment. Luckily I din ask OR even mentioned about to ask people follow. I hope loki u can understand my language (as it was so suck from ur perception, mayb u scored 300 marks in ur MUET, perhaps...).. my purpose here is to target about the writing part... haha... as the topic starter mentioned he/she cant write more than 350 words...
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post Sep 9 2009, 12:52 AM

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Language is always judged in 4 key numerators which often appears in interview process :
- Written
- Spoken
- Reading
- Listening

So to master them you just have to adopt the western culture first (which are mostly based in english).
- Watch English shows (NEVER EVER READ THE SUBTITLES), you must learn to hear which will then make the transition easier. As I said WATCH not read. Try the basics like Simpsons then slowly moves to Documentaries or News channel. Most thought they watching but actually they are actually reading the movie (subtitles).

- Read all kinds of material. Read fiction, non-fiction, comics, magazines, newpapers,....etc. When you start reading you will read.

- When you read your books, read them aloud (like how Muslims practice their Arabic verses with the Quran).

- Writing comes with practice. The more the better.
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chill out....1st dunnot feel stress......
a calm mind will lead u nice & easy.....just do it step by step.....

vocabulary=word+word+wordssssssss.....refer more to dictionary,google
grammar=law of language......begin from basic yaaaaarrr
tanjinjack
post Sep 9 2009, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(z21j @ Sep 9 2009, 12:41 AM)
ok... english...

What is ur first language? Writing is very crucial especially when u want to further study in tertiary level or even though in working field. But y must u mix up english usage with ur thinking? Act, I know every could be a good writer, (if u r writing in ur 1st language). Try think this way... think the point 1st then only proceed. My teacher used to teach me to start up a writing with a point must have, of course a point, explanation or elaboration adn some example. And it's work! Dun ever think about ur english 1st, the thing is whether or not u dare to write more... The moment u can write... the moment u will feel confident... My advice, write as much without thinking of the grammar usage (Dont mistaken, Im not saying to IGNORE the grammar, just for u,  the first step is to practice writing.)
 
Trust me, when u r surrounded in english environment, (eg u r in university), ur english would be better than expected.
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I have to disagree with you.

TS,
I find that it may be important for you to pick up those grammar books if you worry about grammars. Look up what is preposition, what is conjunction, what is present tense, past tense, future tense, present perfect, past perfect, future perfect, continuous etc.
I had had a bad working experience. (Is it sentence correct?)
I had a bad working experience.
I have had a bad working experience.
Yup, improve from things like this.
Get to understand how each tenses work.

When everything is ready, then you start to read up other people works, newspaper, article etc. Choose something you will like so that you can hold your interest on and keep on reading. Then, try to read more variety of works, preferably from many sources. Try to identify any mistake if you can. Slowly build up the sentence. Underline/highlight some useful nice sentence, so that you can follow the structure for your further writing.
It's not that scary to write an essay even if you did not write one before. As long as you know how to write, then there is no problem.

If you think following the above poster's comment that is to write and write without caring about grammars is alright, then I have to say you will take a longer way to achieve what you want.

To build a house, you need pillars. No house comes without pillars. If you just keep on build your houses without pillars, one day it will fall. And what, you need to rebuild it, together with the pillars.


Added on September 9, 2009, 12:56 amAbove is about grammars. As for vocabularies, more readings will help.

This post has been edited by tanjinjack: Sep 9 2009, 12:56 AM
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post Sep 9 2009, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(tanjinjack @ Sep 9 2009, 12:55 AM)
I have to disagree with you.

TS,
I find that it may be important for you to pick up those grammar books if you worry about grammars. Look up what is preposition, what is conjunction, what is present tense, past tense, future tense, present perfect, past perfect, future perfect, continuous etc.
I had had a bad working experience. (Is it sentence correct?)
I had a bad working experience.
I have had a bad working experience.
Yup, improve from things like this.
Get to understand how each tenses work.

When everything is ready, then you start to read up other people works, newspaper, article etc. Choose something you will like so that you can hold your interest on and keep on reading. Then, try to read more variety of works, preferably from many sources. Try to identify any mistake if you can. Slowly build up the sentence. Underline/highlight some useful nice sentence, so that you can follow the structure for your further writing.
It's not that scary to write an essay even if you did not write one before. As long as you know how to write, then there is no problem.

If you think following the above poster's comment that is to write and write without caring about grammars is alright, then I have to say you will take a longer way to achieve what you want.

To build a house, you need pillars. No house comes without pillars. If you just keep on build your houses without pillars, one day it will fall. And what, you need to rebuild it, together with the pillars.


Added on September 9, 2009, 12:56 amAbove is about grammars. As for vocabularies, more readings will help.
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ok... i did mean to disagree with u tan. It is acceptable with what u posted. I mean, Im targeting from the poster's problem - writing not more than 350words. Most people cant write because they are care about their grammar mistake, structure... and so forth, that make them no courage to continue writing.
Yea, maybe picking up books and study is one of the best ways, but like I said, u cant deny that environment play an important role.
Like a baby, when he/she born to this world, what is his/her first language would be the language they are "considered" to familiar with... For me environment is pillar. I noe nothing about tamil language. By reading, can I enhance my tamil language? By environment, perhaps can speak... but when write, courage is more important.
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I Improve my english by watching TV..
And Playing Games. LOL.
xD.. And reading , As a person post before,
READ THEM ALOUD,

Just an Idea.

Watch Other Languages Movies, E.G , Malay, Chinese.
but USE ENGLISH SUBTITLES, Or Just watch English Movie.
with english subtitles. For sure u can learn sumthing from there.
xD. Works For Me.
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post Sep 9 2009, 10:36 AM

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i agree with gribblez , it is very very helpful if you can watch a moives with english spoken medium coupling with english subtitles.that is very very helpful in improving ur english speaking & listening skills as well as expanding your vocabs, but do remember to bring a pencil and a piece of paper alongside with you so that you can jot down the vocabs and words that you don't understand or that u just aren't sure about it, you can guess the words from the interactions of the characters, but after all, u gotta find the real vocabs urself by using oxfords dictionary(highly recommended)...
that is parts of improving ur english, in my humble opinions.=)

Cheers!
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post Sep 9 2009, 12:19 PM

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I face the same problem too~until nowadays I still always find the way to improve it..but it make me realize that English are do no have short cut on it!!! Its take time ~ Try to learn and understand at the same time .
This is only my two-cents.
"gambateh kudasai"!!!
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if you dont have the confident to speak out at public. just doing it thru calling.
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post Jul 10 2011, 12:04 AM

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I seriously believe in taking a proper English course to be the most effective way to improve the language. This is probably not your option if you can't afford it. If you can, this is the fastest way.

Of course you need to look for a programme which is systematic and with effective teaching method.

The problem with self-study is that you don’t know your current language proficiency. How do you know what you need to improve and where to start? You will also receive no guidance on your mistake.

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post Jul 15 2011, 10:50 PM

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To all of you out there wanting to improve English or don’t care about English, DO NOT take English lightly. It could be one of the most important things that could affect your entire life.

I realised it after graduated from college and entering to the corporate world, if you want to be really outstanding and successful in the future, your English has to be tip top! That's the basic requirement.

Very simple, if your company is pitching for a big project, are you able to come up with a proposal which is flawless in English? When your proposal is shortlisted, are you able to do a good job in the presentation? In order for the audience to have a good impression on you, you have to speak flawless English, that’s also a basic requirement.

We have to think big and think far. We have to equip ourselves with the basic skills to handle big jobs ahead. We always want to be successful and be important, and always want to do big things. But are we ready for big thing? I really hope everyone doesn’t make the same mistake that I’ve made.

Ensure that your English has reached your 1st language level, brush up on your speaking and writing skills.

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post Jul 15 2011, 11:00 PM

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lolx.... now this is interesting...


erm.... i can be considered a fluent english language user(aside frm the odd malaysian slang in normal usage)

and truth be told..... i have no what-so-ever basic in grammar.. sweat.gif

i have no idea what is a noun, and etc etc...

lolx...

just my personal opinion.

dun start with grammar...

instead, simply start with newspapers, fiction books, and materials that interest you. just read. and get the meaning of words from the sentence structure itself. save the dictionary as a last resort.

this way one will learn subconsciously the underlying structure of the language.

this is how i get my band 6...

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