Let start a plan or action: emigrate out of Malusia.

Now that is just plain stupid..... even for a great game such as wow...

Give up citizenship and waste around few Ks for migration fee just to play wow...

They wont ban us due to the fact we are under "Asiasoft" Distribution thats in singapore

You are reading too much into this, methinks. Blizzard is an entertainment company not a political party.

Besides, who really takes what Malaysian politicians say seriously? We ourselves sure don't and we live here. Its common knowledge that most politicians are dumbasses who arent competent enough to work at a real job and have to "raise issues" to make it look like they actually do anything.

This post has been edited by limsk: Jan 11 2007, 11:09 AM

It doesn't make sense. If so why are they distributing it in Asia at the first place.

If it is true, i don't think it would be even distributed in countries other than the ones stated. Why would the country's representative distributor risk their money, getting more complaints than incoming revenue. If it is generating more problem, don't think its even worth selling.

If they are really doing this, they seriously gonna effect their name and their games in the industry. No?

My personal take: Dont worry about it.

It's just a blanket clause in the ToS that you will find in a lot of legal documents to allow the company to take action without letting you sue them. Just a way of protecting their asses should it become necessary sometime in the future to close down accounts from other countries due to DOS attacks, mass hacking, rampant gold farming, whatever.

Those countries named are those that are supposed to play on US servers and which have traditionally strong government ties to the US. That clause is there because they feel that for other countries, they may not be able to take action via the local government channels so they have to put in a safety net to allow themselves to close accounts without legal reprisal.

If anything, it should serve to compel Malaysian players to conduct themselves decently online. Because in the event of a complaint against you, you can be kicked out immediately without much bother as stated in the ToS. Dont make yourselves a nuisance and all will be well.

If i were to reword the document to reflect what they are really saying, it would look like this (Uncle Lim's ToS for Dummies):

"A. Right now for US servers, we only distribute WOW to US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Singapore. Yeah we know any Ah Chong, Ramasamy or Ahmad can buy WOW from the internet. Since we have no distribution agreements with those ulu countries we don't really know how to control those buggers if a lot of subscribers turn out to be a nuisance and kacau our business. We dont really wanna kick people out but we reserve that right just to be safe and they cant sue us and our ass is covered legally."

For reference this is the original:
A. You may only access the Service from within the territorial boundaries of the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or Singapore. Any access to your Account, whether by you or anyone else, from any location outside those countries is a breach of this Agreement.


This post has been edited by limsk: Jan 11 2007, 11:40 AM

Guys dont worry about it. 2 years ago when WOW came out Malaysians arent spose to play in US servers but we did until today. Theres ppl from all over the world playing on US servers e.g Philippines,Mauritius,HK,Taiwan,Vietnam,Japan etc.

My a/c was created on Nov 2004 under an Australian address but ive changed it to a Malaysian address now. Blizzard knows there are ppl from other countries besides those stated in the TOS playing WOW on the US servers.

limsk

Nope i just created an account using a "Malaysian" Address. And they let me.

If you try using filipins or indon address it wont work. nither will japan and korea.

This means that we are eligible to play wow under singapore distribution.

RELAX GUYS EVERYTHINGS OKAY

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.h...&sid=1&pageNo=1
updated by the threadstarter

1/10/10:00AM.
Great news! This change in the Terms of Use is specifically meant to stop abusers from harming the game and its mechanics because they have a new way of tracking these violators, and the change in the Terms of Use allows Blizzard to take action against them. Blizzard is not seeking abiding players outside of the region.

I almost forgot- There are no plans to allow transfer from US to Europe servers due to differences in hardware, network, and Authentication Keys.
Also, I have suggested for the Website to update the Terms of Use, and will be acknowledged shortly.
If you are planning to leave the area, it is always good to let the Account Administrators know so they don't think someone is compromising your account.

I felt so relieve now...i can do my work with peace now...

I was kidding about the last part. However unless you do live in a pond, governments have been known to have their paws in business dealings... more often that you think.

It'll be wise to keep an open ear and not be ignorant of your surroundings. If one day your comfort bubble happens to burst and you don't have contingency plans then it's too bad.

Anyways, let's close the issue and go back to topic.

If you have dealt with US people and US companies before (And I have), every single Terms and Conditions is placed there for a reason. Unlike Malaysia where we actually ignore the fine print, in the US fine print can actually get you in trouble. Blizzard is a US company based in the US, and we are paying for the services of a US game governed by US laws.

I do give you credit and concur that the ToS is there to protect themselves legally as well.

However, I believe that unless Malaysia is considered to be under Singapore's territorial boundaries, or if Blizzard intentionally chooses to close one eye, we will be okay.

Otherwise they can shut us down as they please and all the whining and crying in the world won't fix humpty dumpty ever again.

That's a fact, and the day we left clicked on "Agreed" we bind ourselves to it.




This post has been edited by darthbaboon: Jan 11 2007, 11:01 PM

This is mean to be as a joke.... actually its 50-50.

The next 50 being serious... think about it. You don't need to stuck with service company like TMNut. And more can be put in here....

kekekeke.....

If im not mistaken territorial boundaries are not the same as nation's boundaries. I believe this clause is meant for their distributor in Singapore which is authorized to distribute in this region.

So if all this time you have been accessing from Malaysia then its fine, as long as U dont plan to migrate to Aust and play from there.

dont worry la. if u check, they only mentioned

United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or Singapore.

what, no china, japan, korea, middle east, afrika and europe???? that is perhaps 60% already of their market. i cant imagine if they really ban user accounts from this region. that will only invite massive ddos from angry farmers.

from what i understand, the TOC only apply for ppl which is outside of earth.

This post has been edited by nitrofang: Jan 13 2007, 05:10 PM

No worries at all mate. I have sent my tracert to chucks.support via email before and Blizzard never mentions about me unable to play. Only thing they mentioned is that our IP is not fully supported so lag should be expected during peak traffic.

U all so takut for wat??? lolx
I play FLYFF also while i purchase the points and use to buy some items from item mall.
However i still have abt 10k points over there and gpotato also claim might ban asia ip.
At first i was damn worried, but till now i am sure many ppl out there still playing FLYFF wat!
So same case la, BLIZZARD wont take such action as it might result to losing part of the profit ler!

anyway just my 2 cent.

Regards!

Patch 2.0.5 have change the ToU. Now everything is ok already.

bumped for great justice.