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New Tos Affects us Malaysians
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TSdishwasher
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Jan 10 2007, 05:08 PM, updated 19y ago
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4. Limitations on Your Use of the Service. A. You may only access the Service from within the territorial boundaries of the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or Singapore. Any access to your Account, whether by you or anyone else, from any location outside those countries is a breach of this Agreement. We're not included. FYI breaching the ToS can and will result in a ban of the account. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.h...=62153827&sid=1
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UltramanToron
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Jan 10 2007, 05:19 PM
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wats up??? can explain more?
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Rel Centurica
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Jan 10 2007, 05:22 PM
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WTF! Then how? They putting up SEA server? LOL
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Inoran
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Jan 10 2007, 05:30 PM
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well, when i signed up for my WOW account, i put it under an Australian address. So does this mean I can be counted as accessing it from Australia?
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chow_vincevince
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Jan 10 2007, 05:32 PM
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Wow, that sucks. I pay for my account like everyone else too. I hope they have some leniency for this rule.
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chow_vincevince
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Jan 10 2007, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(Inoran @ Jan 10 2007, 05:30 PM) well, when i signed up for my WOW account, i put it under an Australian address. So does this mean I can be counted as accessing it from Australia? No, because you are still connecting from here.
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Inoran
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Jan 10 2007, 05:41 PM
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wow, this sucks man. Why the hell do they deem it illegal if WOW is accessed from other countries not in their TOS list? What are they even thinking? Shouldn't they be happy that more people from other countries other than those listed in their TOS are playing WOW? What they want to limit their customer numbers?
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AurorA|CS
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Jan 10 2007, 06:01 PM
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'World' of Warcraft dah jadi 'United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or Singapore' of Warcraft This post has been edited by AurorA|CS: Jan 10 2007, 06:02 PM
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rEDs
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Jan 10 2007, 06:10 PM
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Aih china and korea no WoW? Poor farmer nation and hardcore gamer nation. Then why still selling WoW here?
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blanka
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Jan 10 2007, 06:10 PM
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no more China gold farmers? GG
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[LinkZ]
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Jan 10 2007, 06:17 PM
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So, whats the solution here...
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Fields
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Jan 10 2007, 06:38 PM
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I actually stay in the US but use a Malaysian proxy because I love lag, so sue me.
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TSdishwasher
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Jan 10 2007, 06:46 PM
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If you go to the asiasoft forums http://forums.asiasoft.net/ they claim to be distributing WoW in Singapore AND Malaysia. I was about to call them up and ask but then I realized that my phone is out of credit. If Asiasoft does have an agreement with Blizzard to distribute WoW in Malaysia, then we should be safe. Either way Blizzard is looking into their ToS so keep your fingers crossed. As it is my friends who can stand the 1k ping are still playing and they haven't been banned or anything. Best is still to get official word from Asiasoft. Will get on it.
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onscreen
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Jan 10 2007, 06:53 PM
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Whats stated is really a misunderstanding to us. But claimed by Blizzard, we are under Singapore distribution. We are safe from being banned.
Most entertainment products, we get through Singapore and thats part of the reason why alot of companies list Singapore instead of Malaysia.
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Mrsinner
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Jan 10 2007, 06:54 PM
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I wouldnt worry about it, if theyre stupid enough to ban 30% of their annual profits then i have nothing to say.
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[LinkZ]
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Jan 10 2007, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(onscreen @ Jan 10 2007, 07:53 PM) Whats stated is really a misunderstanding to us. But claimed by Blizzard, we are under Singapore distribution. We are safe from being banned. Most entertainment products, we get through Singapore and thats part of the reason why alot of companies list Singapore instead of Malaysia. How sure are you...real worry now
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wallance13
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Jan 10 2007, 07:05 PM
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Omg we got screwed Now im not sure gonna purchase TBC expansion onot N i just top up 6 months one shot.. OMG GG
But if they banned us from ISP perspective... we cant do anything... Each country will have its IP range... doesnt matter where you buy it from but when you access from an "illegal" IP range, you will get boot if the condition stated is true, we will get banned
So i think we still fine since we nvr get booted
This post has been edited by wallance13: Jan 10 2007, 07:10 PM
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MarXzz
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Jan 10 2007, 07:37 PM
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This looks like we're screwed.
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limsk
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Jan 10 2007, 07:57 PM
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That clause or variations of it has been there since the game went live back in Nov 2004. I signed up on 15 Dec 2004 and am still playing.
No sense worrying about things that you cant control or effect. Either they cut us off or they dont. According to their ToS they can legally just cut us off. The question is whether they will ever crack down and actually enforce it.
Businesswise, Blizzard is huge enough now that they afford to be a snobbish prick and lose a small fraction of their 7.5 M subscribers, but will they? Those legal clauses were inserted by lawyers to cater for the possibility should it ever be necessary to cut off those accounts if they were not in their best interests.
But anybody with even a shred of common sense would realize that they would be doing the gaming world outside those very limited countries a huge disservice by screwing the people who buy their games - real gamers who have been behaving themselves and loyally paying subscriptions for the last 2+ years. I cannot believe Blizzard would be so dumb as to want to make themselves hated by gamers.
If it ever happens it wont be just us that will be screwed - US servicemen serving in foreign countries could also have their accounts cut off according to this very strict ToS. I'm sure they will be thrilled to be taking bullets for their country and get screwed by a US company in return.
This post has been edited by limsk: Jan 10 2007, 08:07 PM
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