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 Celcom Data Roaming Scam, IS "roaming partner" A TRAP????

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g_kw2
post Apr 15 2016, 04:39 PM

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I have exactly the same issues.
Went to Singapore for 11 days and was charged with RM494 for data roaming which I didn't use.

The officer said "when you use wifi on your phone, it tend to trigger the data roaming and as long as you're using it we'll charge RM38/day."
And other officers said "Maybe you accidentally turned it on" as if we don't know how to turn off.

That's the weirdest claims I heard. I've file complaint to Celcom and they said they investigated and it is valid and close my case.
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post Apr 15 2016, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(g_kw2 @ Apr 15 2016, 04:39 PM)
I have exactly the same issues.
Went to Singapore for 11 days and was charged with RM494 for data roaming which I didn't use.

The officer said "when you use wifi on your phone, it tend to trigger the data roaming and as long as you're using it we'll charge RM38/day."
And other officers said "Maybe you accidentally turned it on" as if we don't know how to turn off.

That's the weirdest claims I heard. I've file complaint to Celcom and they said they investigated and it is valid and close my case.
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494 is exactly 38 x 13days.
Maybe the extra 2days are arrival date till 11.59pm charge 1 day then the departure date after 12.00 am another day.

Did you turn off the 3 settings ie 1) mobile data, 2) data roaming and 3) voicemail service before entering Singapore ?
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post Apr 15 2016, 07:44 PM

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CFM Portal

The portal address for CFM. Do note that they require you to lodge a report with Celcom first and get their reference number which you then enter into their form. I have filed mine as I was also charged RM38 for my trip to Bali last month. I also referenced this thread to CFM so that they take note of others who got scammed by Celcom with this

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post Apr 16 2016, 09:32 AM

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I have the same problem when traveling oversea last month. I have file a complain to celcom and got the same negative replied. Next, I have file a complain to CFM and wait about 2weeks, celcom sms me and granted me the rebate.
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post Apr 16 2016, 09:25 PM

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same problem here during my transit from few country in a day... SG > HK > MAINLAND...rm4xx extra charges in 6days
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post Apr 17 2016, 10:17 PM

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no only celcom, maxis also got this issue but maxis will waive it once they found out the 4g connection made to oversea telcos. I asked them how they know, she said each packet of 50kb continuous for few times...
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post Apr 19 2016, 04:19 PM

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When CFM is involved, all telcos will work fast. Haha
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post Apr 19 2016, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Apr 19 2016, 04:19 PM)
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When CFM is involved, all telcos will work fast. Haha
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hahaha good one thumbsup.gif

next time any problem. report to CFM cool2.gif devil.gif
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post Apr 19 2016, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Apr 19 2016, 04:19 PM)
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When CFM is involved, all telcos will work fast. Haha
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post Apr 20 2016, 10:37 AM

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got my refund too. time to port out to umobile with better roaming. rm10/day unlimited data.


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post Apr 20 2016, 05:38 PM

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same problem with digi too

http://community.digi.com.my/t5/Postpaid/R...m-p/12516#M2746
kanan
post Apr 20 2016, 07:40 PM

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Adam, who is CFM please?


QUOTE(adam7979 @ Apr 11 2016, 05:36 PM)
Hi,

Here is my story.

My parents went to China last week. While I am dead sure that the "Data roaming" option on his Galaxy Note 4 is turned off, few days after his vacation he received this:

[attachmentid=6354968]

And soon he hit his credit limit and his line was barred.

After he returned to Malaysia I called up Celcom careline to find out what went wrong, the answer I got was "sorry, this month's bill still not yet generated. You have to wait till the bill cycle". (What the hell.....) Fine, i'll wait.

So, bill came, and I saw this:

[attachmentid=6354995]

GREAT! So I lodged a complaint via their customer self service portal. 2 days later this is what I got:

[attachmentid=6355014]

So, I called 1111 to follow up on the case number to only find out that the case was actually already closed without further notice/discussion!
Immediately I requested the agent to file an appeal for me over the weekend, and today I login again into customer self care portal and it's again, closed without contacting me or any response:

[attachmentid=6355049]
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To further "convince" myself, I traveled to Stulang Laut, Johor Bahru and did this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK1tVJiT26g

Basically what I did was after making sure data roaming is turned off, I connect to one of the so called "celcom roaming partner"'s network and tried to fool around before switching back to home network. The result?

[attachmentid=6355099]

And, it seems that I'm not the only victim
http://www.complaintboard.com/celcom-l2392.html

and L Ng quoted an example of this happening (http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/rogers/fido-charging-iphone-data-roaming-setting-off/) and the Telco operator admitted its their fault and made a refund.

The next experiment I'd probably do is connect to CELCOM ROAMING PARTNER and this time, even with "cellular data" turn off before I turn to MCMC for help...
UPDATE 12/4/2016 5:15pm
Wrote to CFM and in less than an hour after i furbished CFM with all the details:

RM0 RM144 rebate has been approved and will be reflected in ur next month's Celcom bill. Stay connected on the fastest network. TQ


BRAVO CFM!
UPDATE 15/4/2016
As advised by grazy, i tried again at the same spot, same roaming partner, local data on, but network "3G or below" only, and VOILA! no charge.

Obviously Celcom needs to fix this shit ASAP.
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post Apr 20 2016, 07:43 PM

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Adam, who is CFM and how do I contact them?

I have an issue with YES, they are cheating me big time on quota.

I have been reading that many others are having the same problem, and I would like to lodge a complaint with a regulatory body
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post Apr 21 2016, 02:44 AM

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Few years back my mom got charged for data roaming with Celcom, she was using a Samsung Galaxy W back then which had no 4G, I checked her phone many times before she left the country and confirmed that data roaming was off, only cellular data was on, yet she got charged for data roam use..
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post Apr 21 2016, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(kanan @ Apr 20 2016, 07:43 PM)
Adam, who is CFM and how do I contact them?

I have an issue with YES, they are cheating me big time on quota.

I have been reading that many others are having the same problem, and I would like to lodge a complaint with a regulatory body
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http://www.complaint.cfm.org.my
g_kw2
post Apr 26 2016, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 15 2016, 06:03 PM)
494 is exactly 38 x 13days.
Maybe the extra 2days are arrival date till 11.59pm charge 1 day then the departure date after 12.00 am another day.

Did you turn off the 3 settings ie 1) mobile data, 2) data roaming and 3) voicemail service before entering Singapore ?
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Totally off everything....
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post Apr 26 2016, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(g_kw2 @ Apr 26 2016, 10:43 AM)
Totally off everything....
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I have seen at least 3 threads complaining about the same problem already. Celcom must do something to prevent force usage of data roaming when customer is not prepared to use it.
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post Apr 26 2016, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 26 2016, 11:00 AM)
I have seen at least 3 threads complaining about the same problem already. Celcom must do something to prevent force usage of data roaming when customer is not prepared to use it.
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Latest update. After 3 complaints filed to Celcom without any good response. I've reported it to CFM and they refunded me within 2 days and they credit the amount to my phone account.

It makes my account with more than -RM400++

And I found a way to go Singpore without the data roaming. That is to select Singtel (who is not the data roaming partner of Celcom). Celcom will keep send you sms ask you to select M1. If you select M1 or Starhub it will surely happen again.

I think they should just ask their partner not to bill for anything less than 100KB.
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post May 6 2016, 04:56 PM

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my mom using celcom too. i bring along her to travel at taiwan
but she didnt have the issue as you. wonder is it randomly or what? lol
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QUOTE(memying @ May 6 2016, 04:56 PM)
my mom using celcom too. i bring along her to travel at taiwan
but she didnt have the issue as you. wonder is it randomly or what? lol
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What's her phone model? Does her phone connect to 4G network?

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