i am going to study in newcastle in UK. now my time is so free and i want to prepare before i going to study.
Is drawing important? i am pretty good draw using software like autocad and photoshop. cause i am considering taking drawing courses since i abandon it for so long after form 3.

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Added on May 21, 2007, 4:16 pmbeside for the book experiencing architecture and space and Architecture: Form, Space, and Order can i know the price for both?
thanks
at amazon.com both book selling $49.65 while in rm is 168.438.
is it the price we can get in malaysia?
thanks

This post has been edited by yawhong: May 21 2007, 04:16 PM

yes, drawing is important. but it's not necessary to obtain the drawing skills prior to architecture education, although it would be an added bonus for u. if u prefer to take drawing courses before hand, it's entirely up to u. but u should know that most architecture schools in msia, australia and the UK integrate learning how to draw in the first year. if u dont have money to spare, then dont take those classes.

that's about the price in msia too. but most of my students usually hijack the book from the library and photocopied it for their own keepings. costs about RM25 to copy the whole book. it's piracy, yeah, so do it on ur own risk.

This post has been edited by azarimy: May 21 2007, 07:49 PM

sorry again bro. aza, i just wanna throw some inquiries, do people that graduated from aussie and obtain RAIA could be assess equally like people with RIBA when they come back to Malaysia to work?

Is it the same process?

yes. technically RAIA follows almost the exact template of RIBA, and will follow similar procedures to getting their PAM/LAM part 1 and 2.

i'm currently a final year student of film and animation degree program...but found that animation is not my passion anymore...i'm quite talented in 3d animation and arts though...i was thinking of pursuing a career in architecture...i'm planning to take a CAD/Drafting cert as the first step from cosmopoint...

is there any other college offering architecture/interior design cert?...

if u are already capable in 3D modelling, taking the CAD/drafting cert is a step backwards. waaaaaay backwards.

if u're looking to become a professional architect, ur best bet is to go through IPTA for 1st degree in architecture. chances are they will allow u to skip 1st year, but even so u will still have another 4 years to go (including 2nd degree).

but if u're looking to specialize in architectural presentation, then it would be better for u to sit for a masters programme focusing on architectural simulations or something similar.

the only institution offering certificates of architecture (lower than diploma) that i know of is politeknik.

allrighty...will consider the 2 path you suggested...thanks...

how about the "portfolio review" requirement...what type of body of works should i prepare...

oh, thank you for the reply... And recently i checked the LAM website considering the recognization of programme section, i found out that some of the universities had been removed like NUS, UCD...do you happen to know about this?

This post has been edited by katunX: May 22 2007, 02:41 PM

LAM's website listing of recognized schools have not been updated for quite sometime. it's not that NUS or UCD have been removed, but rather, never made it on the list in the first place

aaeem,

are u talking about portfolio review or just the portfolio? both refers to two different thing. portfolio review is an event held at the end of each semesters where students' works are being assessed by the faculty members as well as external examiners. portfolio on the other hand refers to the collection of students' works.

i assume we're talking about ur portfolio.

simply put, a portfolio should consist of all works done by u, from design to just about everything else that's related to design (artwork, 3D modelling, animation etc). the objective of the portfolio is to illustrate ALL ur capabilities to the examiners/audiences.

is it never made it to the list because i think i'd checked the LAM website before and they listed out NUS, UCD and even one university from Hong Kong if I'm not mistaken. But, I'd checked it around last year...it's kinda weird though...

aiyoo
better dont step back lo
u got to start all over if u want n its such a waste of time
better persue leh
go with square-enix

oh since i not belong to any university i guess if i wan get the book i have to get original,

however, is this 2 books are must for all architect students? can i know normally for first year students what will be taught?

the two books are not to be treated as a text book. meaning, u can still survive without it. there are other books around that serves similar purpose of the two books.

i. experiencing architecture - this book gives a simple yet detailed introduction for a noob/non-architect to the world of architecture. it also attempts to use basic architectural vocabulary and even describes what the word mean and how it's being used in the world of architecture. for example, the word open space in layman's terms would mean an area without walls, but for architects it could refer to a non-private area.

ii. form, space and order - this is a visual guide, almost similar to experiencing architecture. it tells u what does "horizontality" means and give an example of how a design with horizontality would look like.



these books provides vocabularies for students to communicate in architecture. so the next time they went for a critique session, they wont be describing their design with generic terms like "beautiful", "tall", "big" or whatever.

there are lots of things that students will be taught in first year. but mostly introduction to the primary components. standard components in architecture education includes:

i. design
ii. technology
iii. culture
iv. communication
v. management

some schools may add or take away some of these components and rename it to something else, but it's more or less the same everywhere. in each component, u will learn subject that is at an introductory level for 1st years.

I think i'm asking this question for the second time or was it in another forum? I'm enquiring deeply into the job prospects for this course. Some people tell me architecturial jobs are diminishing, others say its flourishing. Some say when theres an economic resession, you'll be the first one to go down. Can you give me a detailed explanation and comment regarding this matter please? I'm kinda swaying between architecture and accountancy so i'll wanna gauge this matter carefully =) Thank you.

Do achitecture students need digital cameras.? Because my uncle keeps asking me to buy one saying if I want to study Architecture, I would definitely need one in the future.
If yes, what kind of digital cameras would you recommend?

when the economy is flourishing, the profession flourishes. when it goes down, architecture is the first one to go.

architects are paid by their fees calculated on the project cost. usually it's between 7% to 11% of the total cost. that's easily in the millions. so lets go back to the project itself. who's paying for the projects?

i. the government
ii. corporations
iii. individual clients

the government - this is the primary income generator for architects in msia. i dont know how much of the pie owned by the gvment, but i could easily say 60%. if the economy goes down, the government might slows down abit, but money's still there and the project will still continue.

corporations - corporations builds up their empire, and as they get bigger, they'll need a bigger place to house their operations. these are my favourite clients, bcoz they're professional and very open to radical ideas. however, if the economy goes down, they will want to keep their money in their pocket.

individual clients - these do not count much to the industry, but there's enough of them around that some architect firms could live off them alone. but the slightest hint of economic downturn, they'd run away in an instant.

so i've laid out these three and juxtaposed it to the economic degression. it'll give u some idea why the architecture profession is so tied to the country's economic wellbeing.

not necessarily, but they do come in handy quite a lot. most of the time, u will go on a trip. usually architects will have their sketchbooks handy. this is part of the training to look, observe and digest what's around u. eventually u will develop a sense of place and a virtual photographic memory, where u wont be needing sketchbooks anymore. u can just go to a place and memorize what's what.

but cameras dont train u to do that. cameras snaps EVERYTHING in the frame. there's no selective understanding, and u brain fails to relate whatever's in the picture into context. here's something u can try:

find a picture of a place u've never been before. describe it as though u've been there. get a friend to listen to u.

then find another picture of a place u've been before. describe it to ur friend.

u friend will tell u that the details of the 2nd picture is more vivid and detailed than the first one.

sketchbooks help architects develop a part of their brains that dont get to be exercised very often. cameras do just the exact opposite. but it does come in handy to have a camera and take a memory of the site, incase u forgot some of the details. it doesnt replace ur sketchbook. it's just a memory recorder.

so no, u dont really need it, but it's handy to have.

Its been a long time since i last posted something here.

Here's a news flash. PAM and UIA are currently jointly organizing the "first" Architectural Camp.

http://www.beyondborders2007.com/

Im not sure whats different from past Architectural Workshops but the modules and programs seem to indicate similar programs along the lines of past workshops.

There are also design competition and as usual, divided into 2 groups, one ofr those pursuing the Part 1 degree and the other category open to undergraduates of the B. Arch program.

Righty. Thanks so much for the information.

erm from your post it stated study architect local is about five years plus 1 year pratical.
however, in newcastle i need take 3 years of architect studies, 1 year of certificate in architectural practice(pratical working), 2 years in bachelor of architecture and finally 2 years of diploma in proffesional practice and management(pratical and got salary).
can i know the different? i try ask some US university they just say i need take 5 years and can get a master degree in architecture.
is the part i took wasting my time? or is it acceptable and useful? i really confuse now. sigh!!

This post has been edited by yawhong: May 28 2007, 12:03 PM

if u refer to the first post in this topic, u'll understand the difference between part 1, 2 and 3. i hope i dont have to repeat that again . so assuming u already what those means, in newcastle:

i. 3 years of architectural studies -> part 1
ii. 1 year practical training
iii. 2 years bachelor architecture -> part 2
iv. 2 years diploma in professional practice & management -> part 3

in the UK, practical training is always considered 1 whole year in between part 1 and part 2. u dont really need a certificate for that, bcoz it's part of the requirement to join part 2. however, u could also opt to conduct ur practical training after u finish part 2 in some other universities. do check if u can do this in newcastle.

whatever it is, practical training is still a requirement for RIBA part 2. u could do it in msia though. so the total required study duration is still 5 years.

in msia, the practical training requirement is just 6 months, and usually it is integrated in the semester system, except for UTM, where the practical training can be divided into shorter months and filled during semester breaks. but the it is still required that u accumulate 6months in total.

so bottom line is, NO, u're not wasting time. part 3 is optional (oh u know what i mean!)