thanks for all the information! i do read it i just don't get the difference.
beside, can i know the difference between honor degree and master degree? which one is better? sorry for this cause at this moment, i really worry about my choice

for architecture, all part 2 degrees come with (honours) in the title. this is a form of indication to differentiate between a part 1 degree and a part 2 degree. it is also an indication of professional degree. in all other commonwealth countries, all professional architectural degrees (part 2) carries an honours automatically in its title.

however, this differs in australia, where their honours degree is an option that are offered to excellent students. when offered, they can add another semester to their studies to obtain an honours degree. this is why australian school moves instead of offering another bachelors degree for part 2, they offer a masters instead. it's still the same, bcoz the masters still carry a part 2, and not part 3. it's just different in the way they call it .

well, some dumbass firms might be confused and refuse to take masters students (coz they cost more). but i take it this wont happen very often. like i said, the firms had to have some really dumb principles to not be able to differentiate between the two.

well, if i have honor degree in newcastle, is it mean i no need to get a master degree in order to become a proffesional architect?

to become an architect, no u dont. but to become a professional architect with part 3, u might (note that there's a difference in "architect" and "professional architect"). in the UK, u can opt to get part 3 in two ways:

i. practice for about 2 years and accumulate relevant experience, then sit for the part 3 exam; or

ii. enrol for a post-graduate diploma or masters for 2 years which by graduation u will earn a part 3.

but we're not talking about ANY PG-dip or masters. there are specific PG-dip or masters that cater for part 3. do not be confused that ALL PG-dip or masters get u part 3. no, it doesnt.

so, just like what i state above, after the BA architect, i go for the 2 year pratical diploma and sit for the part3 exam mean i can become master of architecture? or like in ur point2 mean i definitely will get part 3?

hmm... how should i illustrate this as simple as possible...?

after obtaining ur part 2, u do ur part 3. holding a part 3 doesnt make u a master of architecture. masters of architecture is a degree, one notch higher than a bachelor's degree. a post graduate diploma (PG-dip) is in between masters and a bachelor's degree.

so a masters of architecture is a degree, meaning u have a degree that specializes u in a specific area in architecture. doesnt mean u become a master in everything under the architectural field . but ofcourse, that would be great for the architect's ego hahaha.

i dont think i've clarified ur answer, so do ask more so that u could really understand what u're getting urself into.

erm thanks for all the answer. Ya i still not really get you.
For my own understanding, proffesional architect should be able to sign and verified the building project which a assistand not able to do. And my aim is i able to verified the project.

So to become a proffesional architect is that mean i have to obtain a degree of master of architect or just need BA architect or i just need do the diploma after the BA?

If a BA or diploma can verified the project, than what the different we get the degree of master? beside the salary different.

here's the thing:

in architecture, what degree u have is NOT important. it's the qualification that matters. to become a professional chartered architect, u need a part 3 qualification. period. so to quote myself, there are 2 ways u can obtain ur part 3 after ur part 2 degree in the UK:



it doesnt matter if u actually took a masters or PG-dip or none at all. as long as u have a part 3 qualification, then u are a professional architect.



and just a note: BA architecture or BSc architecture is a part 1 degree. BArch is the one u're looking for, for a part 2 qualification. refer 1st post of this topic.

cheers!

Thanks, you totally clear my mind!
Erm for another question, when i applying UCAS i choose for edinburg University as my alternative choice. However, there are 2 choices appear one is architecture study and another is architecture design. Can i know the different? will these 2 finally lead me to become a proffesional architect or just one of them?

Thanks again for all the answer and trouble.

in edinburgh the path u should choose is:

first: MA in architectural design (part 1)
second: MArch design (part 2)

here's a reference

where to buy drafting table??
anyone got?2nd hand also can
im at shah alam

Try Wins, a lil walk from the kelana jaya LRT =3

It sells almost everything you need in architecture studies [ not books ], stationaries. At quite an affordable price

i havent been back my home town for about 2 years now. i have no idea where to get what in shah alam. but i do know there're several shops in section 2 that sells decent art equipments, u could try inquire there. most art shops i've been to do sell the drafting tables, but they dont usually have it instore, takes too much space. u gotta order (1 or 2 days).

my personal preference is the artwright brand. it's msian made, cheap and easy to install/maintain, and damn good quality too!

hello guys ive been followed up this thread quite some times.. after reading it im interested to take archi to further my studies.. its like my second choice.. rite now law is my first choice

currently im a stpm student.. the subject that im takin is PA, eco, geo, history..

after ive been go through uitm and utm websites.. i found out that uitm didnt offer degree prog unlike utm.. currently uitm only takes their student from diploma graduates from uitm itself..

now my concern is after ive checked utm entry guidelines.. the minimum is c (2.00) in any 2 of the subjects

-math
-chemistry/biology
-physics
-eco
-computer sci
-accounting
-geo
-history
-arts

so, ive got eco,geo and history to backup my entry.. but i doubt my applications will be judge as im not a sci student.. sci student here means i didnt take math n physics which is kinda strong subject for archi..aint it? is that a strong point my application will be distinguish? wht i mean is there any priority for sci student over arts student?

thanks in advance.. this thread is really helpful

hello kitt,

i. UiTM have upgraded their diploma+degree system into degree+degree, which means STPM leavers will be eligible to apply their first degree (3 years) part 1, and will have an option to continue for second degree (2 years) part 2. in total, 5 years of study, the same internationally. (do refer the first post in this thread for more clarification).

ii. math and physics are not the core of architecture. u've confused between architecture and civil engineering. architecture is more art/philosophy related than science.

iii. eco, geo and history should be more than enough to apply. intakes for architecture course do not distinguish between art or sci students as far as i'm concerned.

thanks azarimy for clearin that up..

i've set my mind from now on..

Is architecture in Japan recognized by RIBA or PAM? Things like getting exemption from RIBA, etc....

at the moment, malaysia does not officially recognize architectural programmes from japan, as they do not for american programmes. but that doesnt mean u cant study there. the only issue is u'd have to reaccredit urself after finishing ur studies, eg: apply for PAM/LAM part 1 and 2 and sit for the exam/interviews individually.

if u decide to study in japan, make sure u keep ALL ur works, assignments, exam papers etc. this is to ensure u dont have any problem later on.

aza, u're pursuing PhD rite? Does that mean after graduating, u'll be a Professional Ar. automatically? Or u're already one now?

What's the advantage of obtaining a PhD in architecture compared to a Professional Architect? What's the difference?

Can a Professional Architect pursue PhD in Architecture?

unfortunately, PhD is not equal to professional architect . which i'm still not.

basically, doing a PhD is part of my ambition to become the greatest supervillain of all, a mad genius hellbent to take over singapore, thailand, brunei, indonesia and phillipines and combine them under my flag: malaysia raya!

ahem...

there are two main branch in virtually all professions: practice and academia. for architecture, taking the prof. ar. is clearly a path of practice, where prof. ar. is the highest achievement u can get. phd, on the other hand, is in the academia path, where the highest would be a professor, two notches above phd.

a doctorate holder in architecture means he is an expert in one particular field, and is one of a handful of experts in that area in the world. meaning, if u have a phd in interior lighting, it means that in this world, u are probably one out of 10 experts in interior lighting. imagine what that can do for u if u go into practice?

i'm pursuing a phd in architectural education. well, i cant really use this in practice, but from what i'm gathering now, if i could finish my current phd, future architecture schools will have to refer to me to open a new course, change their curriculum, expand their degrees etc. this goes for students as well. if they feel the school should change or expand to meet their needs, come see me, and i'll build u a case.

that's a glimpse of the value of phd.

so can a professional architect pursue a phd? ofcourse they can. having both would mean u would be the ultimate architectural expert! but that alone would take a huge chunk of ur life. degree alone is 5 years, part 3 would take between 3 to 5 years, phd also another 3 to 5 years. that's a total of almost 15 years! and to do them simultaneously is a virtual suicide .

at the moment, i dont plan to go into practice yet. a glimpse of practice in the early days after graduation is enough to make me go into academia. call me cheesy, but the amount of corruption in the construction industry really goes against my beliefs...