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 So you're interested in ARCHITECTURE?, An academic guide to become an Architect

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post Sep 24 2007, 07:41 PM

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mars16,

last i checked, part time degrees are only offered for those who are already holding a work permit in the UK, or students from EU countries. for non-EU like us, we need to already have a work permit and already working in the UK to be offered a part time degree. i dont know if they actually do provide part time degrees for non-working non-EU students other than open university. but i dont think OU offers part2 architecture.

if u're a fulltime student, u can work part time for a maximum of 20 hours per week.

mwkh_hope, what's UTas?
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eh..so wad u mean is as long as we already hold a work permit and working in UK although we are non-EU,we still can study the part time part2 program in any uni that provide this?
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post Sep 24 2007, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(mars16 @ Sep 24 2007, 08:10 PM)
eh..so wad u mean is as long as we already hold a work permit and working in UK although we are non-EU,we still can study the part time part2 program in any uni that provide this?
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yes. but i'd have to advise u that applying for a work permit from a non-EU is really a hassle.
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post Sep 27 2007, 03:03 PM

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err
anyone can provide me link or images of LVMH tower floor plan?
thanx!
(searching all books but none yet)
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post Sep 28 2007, 08:28 PM

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btw , i believed studying architecture with part-time job will be a quite impossible task.
correct me if i am wrong , i got this info from my other frined.
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QUOTE(kazasho @ Sep 27 2007, 03:03 PM)
err
anyone can provide me link or images of LVMH tower floor plan?
thanx!
(searching all books but none yet)
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sorry, cant find any either. perhaps somebody else might help u.

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btw , i believed studying architecture with part-time job will be a quite impossible task.
correct me if i am wrong , i got this info from my other frined.
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better yet, why dont YOU try it, and then tell us if it's possible biggrin.gif
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post Oct 5 2007, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(BridgestoneRE711 @ Sep 28 2007, 08:28 PM)
btw , i believed studying architecture with part-time job will be a quite impossible task.
correct me if i am wrong , i got this info from my other frined.
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Well, architecture required you to move around, do alot of studies. For Architecture student, you need DISCIPLINE, in order to balance your studies, personal time & etc.

if want to work part time, still depends on what part time job you work.... But you want to work, evaluate your time management....
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post Oct 8 2007, 04:17 AM

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can anyone explain what is fragment drawing for me? if possible give me some example? i really don't know where to start my assignment
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post Oct 8 2007, 04:34 AM

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can u tell us more?

fragment drawing might be just a different name used to call something that we already know wink.gif. owh u know laa, architects would LOVE to try and be original, even if it's just making a new name for something that's already has a name... biggrin.gif
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post Oct 8 2007, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Oct 8 2007, 04:34 AM)
can u tell us more?

fragment drawing might be just a different name used to call something that we already know wink.gif. owh u know laa, architects would LOVE to try and be original, even if it's just making a new name for something that's already has a name... biggrin.gif
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The task
Work individually to make a full size elevation drawing 1m x1m - which aims to have the same affect as a close encounter with the house itself. The choice of fragment is crucial in that it must be the most "telling". It must embody the tectonic/material intentions of the architect.

I used to ask lecture, they tell me to produce a 1 to 1 scale drawing. Example, if i choose to draw stairs from the house, the drawing must be same size as the stairs. The thing i don't understand is what is included in the drawing. Should i list out every single materials of the stairs or just draw out the stairs? They do give a workshop but they don't even touch what is fragment drawing ( i think all EU students know what it is ). So when i go ask lecture what is fragment drawing they look so surprise. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(yawhong @ Oct 8 2007, 06:47 PM)
The task
Work individually to make a full size elevation drawing 1m x1m - which aims to have the same affect as a close encounter with the house itself. The choice of fragment is crucial in that it must be the most "telling". It must embody the tectonic/material intentions of the architect.

I used to ask lecture, they tell me to produce a 1 to 1 scale drawing. Example, if i choose to draw stairs from the house, the drawing must be same size as the stairs. The thing i don't understand is what is included in the drawing. Should i list out every single materials of the stairs or just draw out the stairs? They do give a workshop but they don't even touch what is fragment drawing ( i think all EU students know what it is ). So when i go ask lecture what is fragment drawing they look so surprise.  rclxub.gif
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issit like dimensioning or site survey?
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honestly i cant help u there. i'm not sure what fragment drawing is. my wife did her undergrad architecture in leicester, and she's never heard of fragment drawings.

however, i think this is similar to a measured drawing, only it captures a small piece of the building by producing a 1 to 1 wysiwyg (what you see is what you get) kinda drawing. so that's exactly it: draw everything that u can see. but i'm sure it's not a perspective drawing, coz it's gonna be almost impossible to produce a 1:1 scaled perspective - i just dont see the point.

the selection part should contain enough story to tell about the house. u dont pic a flat surface of the wall and draw that, coz u'll only produce a blank piece of paper biggrin.gif. pick a portion of a window including the sill, frame, architrave etc. pick up as much detail as u can. assuming this is a first year exercise, they'll wanna look at ur ability to pickup details and understand them.
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post Oct 9 2007, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Oct 8 2007, 07:49 PM)
honestly i cant help u there. i'm not sure what fragment drawing is. my wife did her undergrad architecture in leicester, and she's never heard of fragment drawings.

however, i think this is similar to a measured drawing, only it captures a small piece of the building by producing a 1 to 1 wysiwyg (what you see is what you get) kinda drawing. so that's exactly it: draw everything that u can see. but i'm sure it's not a perspective drawing, coz it's gonna be almost impossible to produce a 1:1 scaled perspective - i just dont see the point.

the selection part should contain enough story to tell about the house. u dont pic a flat surface of the wall and draw that, coz u'll only produce a blank piece of paper biggrin.gif. pick a portion of a window including the sill, frame, architrave etc. pick up as much detail as u can. assuming this is a first year exercise, they'll wanna look at ur ability to pickup details and understand them.
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i think u r rite, mr azarimy. I use to ask lecture can i do part like stairs and she told me there is not much detail for that.She suggest me choice part where content more materials. But the problem is the project don give scale, what the lecture suggest is use door as measurement.

Anyway, the project i get is Solar TuBe house in Vienna,Austria.
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Ok let take it is measured drawing, do you have any example for that? I try google it but i just can't get what i want.

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post Oct 10 2007, 04:47 AM

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QUOTE(ijatz @ Oct 10 2007, 01:17 AM)
nice house, i like house with a lot of glass. guys which one better rmit or uni of melbourne for architecture?
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ya nice house, this is the most impressive part of the house! Ya, it is in the same place of the house, not 2 picture


Added on October 10, 2007, 7:16 pm
QUOTE(azarimy @ Oct 8 2007, 07:49 PM)
honestly i cant help u there. i'm not sure what fragment drawing is. my wife did her undergrad architecture in leicester, and she's never heard of fragment drawings.

however, i think this is similar to a measured drawing, only it captures a small piece of the building by producing a 1 to 1 wysiwyg (what you see is what you get) kinda drawing. so that's exactly it: draw everything that u can see. but i'm sure it's not a perspective drawing, coz it's gonna be almost impossible to produce a 1:1 scaled perspective - i just dont see the point.

the selection part should contain enough story to tell about the house. u dont pic a flat surface of the wall and draw that, coz u'll only produce a blank piece of paper biggrin.gif. pick a portion of a window including the sill, frame, architrave etc. pick up as much detail as u can. assuming this is a first year exercise, they'll wanna look at ur ability to pickup details and understand them.
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ok i had ask senior about fragment drawing, what she told me is just take ur original scare and enlarge the park i choose with photocopy machine than job done. But, is it really that simply? Any suggestion to add bonus for my drawing? brows.gif

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post Oct 12 2007, 09:18 AM

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sound like photocopy a drawing le..
rmit more into design, unimelb is working drawing


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QUOTE(yawhong @ Oct 9 2007, 05:36 PM)
i think u r rite, mr azarimy. I use to ask lecture can i do part like stairs and she told me there is not much detail for that.She suggest me choice part where content more materials. But the problem is the project don give scale, what the lecture suggest is use door as measurement.

Anyway, the project i get is Solar TuBe house in Vienna,Austria.
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Ok let take it is measured drawing, do you have any example for that? I try google it but i just can't get what i want.
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just wondering, how did the solar tube house front being build?
it look like glass all the way, wondering how is the support in term of structural

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post Oct 12 2007, 03:12 PM

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roughly, this is how u construct them. the floors are cantilevered (google it!) from a central core (usually where the staircase is). in this case, u dont really need walls or columns at the edges of the rooms to form the structure. the entire weight is supported through I-beams or C-brackets, and since they're steel structures, they can be very, very shallow since it's just a house.

then u can have an entirely FREE edge to edge opening for the house. heck, if u're in the tropics, u dont even NEED glass. let it open!

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post Oct 12 2007, 08:58 PM

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this is the side plan of the house
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QUOTE(yawhong @ Oct 12 2007, 09:58 PM)
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this is the side plan of the house
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site plan or side plan or section ?
i consider this more of a section thru


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QUOTE(azarimy @ Oct 12 2007, 04:12 PM)
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roughly, this is how u construct them. the floors are cantilevered (google it!) from a central core (usually where the staircase is). in this case, u dont really need walls or columns at the edges of the rooms to form the structure. the entire weight is supported through I-beams or C-brackets, and since they're steel structures, they can be very, very shallow since it's just a house.

then u can have an entirely FREE edge to edge opening for the house. heck, if u're in the tropics, u dont even NEED glass. let it open!
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thanks azarimy ! interesting indeed.


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post Oct 13 2007, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(yawhong @ Oct 12 2007, 08:58 PM)
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this is the side plan of the house
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uih... where got "side plan" de... that is a section.



site plan ada laaa.

side plan takde. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 13 2007, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Oct 13 2007, 09:26 AM)
uih... where got "side plan" de... that is a section.
site plan ada laaa.

side plan takde. biggrin.gif
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haha, sorry what i mean is the view from side. I don know what is side plan either. but i know what is section now. Thanks

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