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 So you're interested in ARCHITECTURE?, An academic guide to become an Architect

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mars16
post Oct 29 2007, 03:47 PM

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have a question here.Is it an architect who able to use more different type of program like archicad will be more competitive when finding a job?
which program is usually teach in uni and which is usually required when apply job?help to list out if can biggrin.gif...
I would also like to know some books which is suitable for someone who is going to study architect like me tongue.gif list out some if can...

thank you.
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post Oct 29 2007, 06:31 PM

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ofcourse, being able to use all sorts of programmes would certainly make u a more valuable commodity compared to the others. however, knowing how to use various softwares arent as good as being an expert in one.

some firms employ outside hands to solve certain issues, mainly to paint a perspective that usually displayed at the signboard on the construction sites, a 3d visualizer that helps construct fast 3d and so on. these skills are quite valuable to an office, primarily bcoz it means that they dont have to employ outside help anymore, which can sometimes be very expensive. an A3 3D perspective can cost between RM500 to RM2000 a piece.

however, u're always an architect first, productionist second. dont ever let a firm hire u primarily bcoz u can do 3D, bcoz in the end, that's all u will ever do in the office. it'll be years before u actually become an architect biggrin.gif.

softwares that architects use can be divided into several categories:

i. design modeling
at the moment, only sketchup really qualifies as a design modeling software.

ii. 3D visualization
any 3D softwares out there that can produce 3D perspectives or animations like 3dsmax, maya, lightwave, catia and so on. here's a list of 3d softwares available.

iii. CAD
this software is used to produce architectural drawings that replaces conventional draftmanship. all the plans, sections, elevations are produced using these softwares like autoCAD, vectorworx, microstation and so on.

iv. vector graphics
vector graphics softwares are used for making presentation drawings, posters or pin-up board. all drawings produced by 3D, CAD or even diagrams and pictures of sites are produced with these. softwares include illustrator, coreldraw etc.

v. raster processing
this software is used to process raster images, either to improve an existing image so it appears more presentable, or to provide an after-touch to a pre-rendered image, or to produce a sketch all by itself. this category is dominated by photoshop.

vi. word processing and spreadsheet
obviously, an architect will do alot of reports, letters and so on. this skill is necessary as it is well known: u want anything done, do it urself. this includes typing, proof-reading, spreadsheet capabilities for budget/expenditure management and so on. ms office provides an allround package for this.
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post Oct 30 2007, 05:29 AM

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beside, you do need to know movie maker software such as imovie, window movie maker and so on cause some university like Newcastle will ask you do a film related to your projects.... that is what i am doing right now.. sigh


Added on October 30, 2007, 5:33 am
QUOTE(chungyinjie @ Oct 26 2007, 01:11 AM)
I see. but, how much different between portfolio n ceevee in the application of an architectural degree?
What do u think about an architecture student taking double degree? perhaps in art.
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i know southampton university do offer MEng Civil Engineering with Architecture. It is 4 years degree.....
MEng Civil Engineering with Architecture H2K1

A Level: AABb, including A Level mathematics and a science
IB: 34 points, including a minimum of 5 points in mathematics and a science at Higher Level

Part-taught by practising architects
Learn to design flagship buildings
Understand how architects and engineers work together

http://www.soton.ac.uk/study/undergraduate.../civil_eng.html

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post Oct 30 2007, 01:47 PM

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this is the situation..

i'm taking spm this year..

so can you tell me step by step to be an architect...

i'm a Science Stream student..

Take : BM,BI,MM,PAI,SEJ,FIZ,KIM,BIO,+M,EST

what must i do...help..me k..i want step by step..
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post Oct 30 2007, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost(tm) @ Oct 30 2007, 01:47 PM)
this is the situation..

i'm taking spm this year..

so can you tell me step by step to be an architect...

i'm a Science Stream student..

Take : BM,BI,MM,PAI,SEJ,FIZ,KIM,BIO,+M,EST

what must i do...help..me k..i want step by step..
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.... why don you read the very first page of this topic? mr azarimy did a great job of that...
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post Oct 30 2007, 02:51 PM

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i'm still reading and i cannot decide..the path to take..
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post Oct 30 2007, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost(tm) @ Oct 30 2007, 02:51 PM)
i'm still reading and i cannot decide..the path to take..
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My sister same age as you and she decided to do architecture as well... What she do is apply UK foundation for january intake and the foundation finish at august, so she able to start university at the same year. she eventually faster than ppl one year who take a-level.

So you have to ask yourself, you want study local or oversea, this is the main point.
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post Oct 30 2007, 03:26 PM

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if overseas how to apply..?? how to apply uk program...? with what kind of result..?? need scolarship??
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post Oct 30 2007, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost(tm) @ Oct 30 2007, 03:26 PM)
if overseas how to apply..?? how to apply uk program...? with what kind of result..?? need scolarship??
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you find where you want study than google lor.
example my sister want come newcastle than she go ask http://www.into.uk.com/
than she find out can apply in malaysia by following address
E-1-3 Block E, Mezzanine Level, Plaza Damas
No 60, Jln Sri Hartamas I, Sri Hartamas
50480 Kuala Lumpur
Mobile: +6012 606 6363
Office: +603 6201 0981/2 Fax: +603 6201 0978
Email: aida.lim@into.uk.com

so she just call....
you can get scolarship if you done well in spm....

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hi..i'm new here...i'm planning to take architecture or interior architecture. and i was looking through this topic and i was thinking how much will the prices be?and there was an education fair that day around my town and i asked taylor's if we can do 3+1 up until part 2,does that mean we can graduate or must we finish part 3 to graduate?how much does it cost to study overseas a year?in aus or uk...

out of topic:
is interior architecture good?
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post Nov 4 2007, 07:43 PM

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hello kimi,

taylor's 3+1 (diploma + external degree) is only equivalent to part 1. there's another 2 years 2nd degree or masters that u'd need to take to acquire part 2 qualification. u can worry about part 3 after u start practicing. so if u're going down the taylor's path, then it would look like this:

taylor's diploma (3 years) + australian part 1 degree (1 year) + australian part 2 degree/masters (2 years) = 6 years after SPM.

i dont have the figures for the estimated cost to go down that path. maybe somebody could help u here later on.



however, if u're going to the UK, expect to pay GBP7000 to GBP10,000 per year for 5 years (part 1 and 2). that is for fees only. add GBP4800 to GBP8000 per year for living expenses. that would get u to about RM500-RM600k (on the high side) for the total cost to study architecture in the UK.




interior architecture is a subset of architecture, sort of the little brother of architecture. it concentrates on the interior design/layout of a building, something that an architect could do, but usually dont want to bother bcoz there are lots of other things to manage and we just cant afford to micromanage everything. so the solution is to have interior designers take care of the interior layout, landscape architects doing the landscape and surrounding areas while the architect concentrates on the building itself.

do be aware that although architects are qualified to do interior design, interior architects/designers are NOT qualified to do architecture works.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 4 2007, 08:43 PM)
hello kimi,

taylor's 3+1 (diploma + external degree) is only equivalent to part 1. there's another 2 years 2nd degree or masters that u'd need to take to acquire part 2 qualification. u can worry about part 3 after u start practicing. so if u're going down the taylor's path, then it would look like this:

taylor's diploma (3 years) + australian part 1 degree (1 year) + australian part 2 degree/masters (2 years) = 6 years after SPM.

i dont have the figures for the estimated cost to go down that path. maybe somebody could help u here later on.
however, if u're going to the UK, expect to pay GBP7000 to GBP10,000 per year for 5 years (part 1 and 2). that is for fees only. add GBP4800 to GBP8000 per year for living expenses. that would get u to about RM500-RM600k (on the high side) for the total cost to study architecture in the UK.
interior architecture is a subset of architecture, sort of the little brother of architecture. it concentrates on the interior design/layout of a building, something that an architect could do, but usually dont want to bother bcoz there are lots of other things to manage and we just cant afford to micromanage everything. so the solution is to have interior designers take care of the interior layout, landscape architects doing the landscape and surrounding areas while the architect concentrates on the building itself.

do be aware that although architects are qualified to do interior design, interior architects/designers are NOT qualified to do architecture works.
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boss azarimy...
update in melbourne uni model affecting taylor diploma .
short by one year, instead of 6 years it turn to be 5, still need to be confirm.
this is related to those going to unimelb from taylor.
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post Nov 4 2007, 09:01 PM

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really? got any links to that?

i'll update the front page later.
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post Nov 4 2007, 09:46 PM

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woot...can see that yawhong come from a rich family after i see the calculation from uncle azarimy.well...i m planning to go UK to finish my part 1 after diploma in taylors.
want to ask....is that we can apply any uni in UK after the diploma from taylor with advance 1 or 2 years for part 1?since the thing teach in taylors is base on Melb U?
however,if kimi,if u going to taylor on january for architecture then we will be fren then biggrin.gif
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post Nov 5 2007, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(mars16 @ Nov 4 2007, 09:46 PM)
woot...can see that yawhong come from a rich family after i see the calculation from uncle azarimy.well...i m planning to go UK to finish my part 1 after diploma in taylors.
want to ask....is that we can apply any uni in UK after the diploma from taylor with advance 1 or 2 years for part 1?since the thing teach in taylors is base on Melb U?
however,if kimi,if u going to taylor on january for architecture then we will be fren then biggrin.gif
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i am not from rich family, just ok only, my house full with old car, my dad volvo 940 dy 10 years old d and dy drive more than 400000km and go to repair shop more than you can imagine, my mom car dy 21 years old and the air con is spoil. I and my 2 sis share 1 5 years old US car...my house dy 40 years old with durian, rambutan, mango trees.... But when come to education, as long as good for us, money is not a big deal... so we rather spend in education than have a luxury life like others

About the second question, i don know about taylor diploma, but i know several hongkong friends who took diploma and straight go for 2nd years for degree...
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QUOTE(yawhong @ Nov 5 2007, 06:54 AM)
i am not from rich family, just ok only, my house full with old car, my dad volvo 940 dy 10 years old d and dy drive more than 400000km and go to repair shop more than you can imagine, my mom car dy 21 years old and the air con is spoil. I and my 2 sis share 1 5 years old US car...my house dy 40 years old with durian, rambutan, mango trees.... But when come to education, as long as good for us, money is not a big deal... so we rather spend in education than have a luxury life like others

About the second question, i don know about taylor diploma, but i know several hongkong friends who took diploma and straight go for 2nd years for degree...
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yes...with diploma... you are eligible to get exemption for the first year subjects...
however it will depend on your credit hour in diploma and portfolio...
they might request you to take some of the subjects from the frist year...

and i am the one who "kena" this... rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Nov 7 2007, 04:00 AM)
yes...with diploma... you are eligible to get exemption for the first year subjects...
however it will depend on your credit hour in diploma and portfolio...
they might request you to take some of the subjects from the frist year...

and i am the one who "kena" this...  rclxub.gif

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Corretto! My fren who finish her UTM diploma wif me then joined UM to finish the degree. They only give exemption to 2nd year which means another 4 more years to study. Plus she has to extend another semester to take some 1st year subjects that she cant get exemption.

Me? I join back UTM and its straight to the 3rd year. Means 3 more years to go for me icon_idea.gif
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it's basically the same if u take A-levels/STPM.

u spend 2 years for A-levels/STPM after SPM, then 1st year architecture. if u go the diploma way, u spend 3 years for diploma after SPM, and join 2nd year architecture. it's just a matter of how much u've spent for diploma vs A-levels (STPM is free biggrin.gif).
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Hello;

I would like to know what you guys think about studying Architecture in SEGI's new Flagship University Campus located in Kota Damansara. >>> http://www.segi.edu.my/campus/sckd/

I am currently a semester III (First year) student from SEGI College/University U.S.J. Subang Jaya. >>> http://www.segi.edu.my/campus/scsj/

Basically, I was having a discussion with my parents about my study route just now, and the idea about pursuing Architecture suddenly came up. I am currently majoring in Photography, however, I have the idea about changing from my present course to Architecture. What would be your advice?

Generally, I would just like to hear some advice on whether will it be advisable or not, for me to pursue an Architecture course in SEGI's new Flagship University Campus; when I am already in this Photography course of mine in SEGI College/University U.S.J. Subang Jaya.

Regards.

Benjamin.

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i'm not aware of SEGI offering any architectural degree/diplomas. i've even checked segi's website and i couldnt find any info on architecture courses. can u give me the link(s) to that?

if u're really into it, i could recommend u several other college/universities in msia, but i'd stay away from architecture courses that have yet to produce their first graduates, assuming segi is opening a new architecture programme. architecture profession is protected by law, and in order to practice u'd need a license which can be obtained through accredited degree programmes.

i'm not against u changing ur studies into architecture, but u might need to look beyond segi for architectural courses.

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