Avocado 22. Below 150, crap-ton of flavor in a small package. Does dual or single coils (comes with adapter for singles). Easy coiling thanks to the velocity deck (check out the pic of the 'Cado deck with glowing coils a few posts above).

I would ask MTL or DTL but you *did* say you're from the Nebox - airflow on the 'Cado is pretty similarly airy. Plus it tops the Minivolt (and other small mods) pretty well.

Issues? Does not like being put on its side if not wicked enough (juice seeps though the top) and needs slim/needle tip bottles ror refilling (glass droppers do not fit). Otherwise it's pretty problem free.

Also there's the slightly bigger Avocado 24 which comes with a saperate refill port (which you really don't need IMHO).

As for the Minivolt, unfortunately it has a rather "patchy" history (a LOT of magically dying boards and batteries as reported on the net) plus it doesn't do TC. Sure, there's a V2 out, but looking at just how extensive the "magical death problem" was with the V1, not sure if it's a mod I would put my money on.

Personally, I would rather recommend the iStick Pico (my main daily mod) as far as "mini" mods go (removable battery FTW). Or the Artery Nugget if you *really* want it to be small, but no removable battery on that one. At least it still does TC though.

There's also the new Vaporesso Target Mini... but it's too new so I don't really know what to say about it - other than that it does look rather eye catching. Also, no removable battery.

Lemme dig a picture out of the Target Mini kit I got to look-see at last week.



This post has been edited by Eiraku: Jun 29 2016, 10:27 AM

much appreciated guys, thank u

will look into it and will buy after raya, act as my 2nd on and off premium flavor vape. my nebox act as main, flavor premium + local for daily vape

edit : forgot to mention, i prefer Power mode all the way. TC is not my cup of tea, i guess vaping with mech mods for few years haven't change my habit of getting the power directly

This post has been edited by Sib: Jun 29 2016, 10:26 AM

Can't get clear picture until I open it. I''ll do it tonight.

If you want to run the 2nd mod for "Premium" vaping, why not do what I do: run a dripper on your 2nd device.

I have a Velocity V2 (Tobeco clone) set up on my backup mod for that very purpose. Flavour is nice and the Velo is even easier to build on compared to the 'Cado.

Why a dripper? You can switch between liquids as you like at any time. It's perfect if you have a cache of Premium liquids you want to swap according to your mood.

Also, as much as you're resistant to trying out TC (I understand, I was too), it does bring a whole new "advantage" onto the table when doing it with a dripper: properly set, you will *never* get bad dry hits/burn your cotton/Lucifer's delicious burnt pubic hair flavour.

Which, considering the nature of a dripper, is pretty neat (and actually, temp protection was made for *this* more than it was to regulate your vape temps).

That said, I don't run TC on my dripper yet either... though after a few encounters with Bro 'Cifer's firey undergrowth myself has gotten me thinking that it might not be a bad idea.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Jun 29 2016, 10:46 AM

yep, dripper is always the best way to taste the best out of any juice. i still have my Igo-L (i think, forgot the name liao) and magma for testing the flavors.

but RDA is easiest when it comes down to cotton changes, which compared to a dripper needed to be changed almost everyday!

Just a quick correction though: RDA's ARE drippers. Tanks you can build coils on are RTAs. Tanks you can't build on are normally just "tanks" (though some of these tanks do come with RBAs which are rebuildable)

There's also tanks you can build coils AND drip on: RDTAs (like the Avocado/Fodi/Limitless).

But really, the frequent cotton changes are more due to the fact that you're inadvertently overburning your cotton when the dripper/RDA wicks are dry (without you noticing... our sense of taste can only go so far in determining wick wetness/saturation).

RTAs have less of the problem simply because the cotton is less prone to being dry (thanks to the liquid tank/reservoir, which people usually fill *before* it gets bone dry).

This is where TC comes in. Theoretically (haven't tested personally yet), a properly setup TC setup will *never* overburn dry cotton. What this means is the that your dripper wicks/cotton can last as long as cotton in tanks.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Jun 29 2016, 11:03 AM

thanks for correcting, me is malu liao

i had a theory though, RDAs cottons don't last long due to it's exposed to air + liquid thus burnt taste more quickly. i'm not even firing more than 50W mind u with only 0.5ohm. whereas for RTAs, the cotton is submerged with the liquid + vacuum pressured like spaces thus the longevity.

tried TC on VS rDNA40 last time, tried various temp with nickel coil but not very happy with it. still misses the power mode

You should try the current tech TC. SS is soooooooo much better than straight Ni that it's not even funny. And this is on the cheapo Joyetech chipset on the Pico je.

AND you can run SS in power mode too (unlike Ni and Ti).

As for burnt taste happening faster, yes dripper coils are exposed to air which makes the wicks "dry up" faster (especially in air conditioned rooms)... which leads to you vaping dry wicks (without TC or a tank of juice stopping you from doing so). So yeah.

And no, the air doesn't do anything funky like "oxidising" your juice or anything on a dripper - you need to expose juice a looooooot longer than that for it to "masuk angin".

BTW, you want a dripper that *comes* with a juice tank, they DO have that: The Avocado I was recommending to you earlier. After all, it's called a Rebuildable Dripping Tank Atomiser (RDTA) for a reason.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Jun 29 2016, 11:22 AM

You can get dripper level flavor on certain tanks. Its the matter of how you coil and wick it. I let some guys using dripper vape my TFV4 TF-R2 and they confirmed it.

Not sure where you get that information, back to basic if your wick is good you cotton will last if your wick is weak your cotton will burnt. simple basic rules my dripper can last for a day without changing 70w firing though. Also dry burn is not because of tank or drip is about how u wick and what went wrong with your wick. other factor will be ur juice of ratio and cotton quality. Better quality of cotton can sustain higher heating and juice ratio also will cause dry burn or gunk the cotton easily. If you are a lazy type go for RTA, I still prefer dripper.

This post has been edited by snake1983: Jun 29 2016, 11:49 AM

It's all gaseous mechanics and physics ler Bro, though us (and even the manufacturers) have only scratched the surface of the "science" of flavour and vapour in vaping.

That said, if we take a "Grade A" dripper setup on a known "flavour" dripper, I really don't think a tank (at least not most tanks) can match it with a similar setup.

And no, the Velo isn't a "flavour" atty either (it's more "multi-role, IMHO), and no the cloudsbro atties don't count (they're mostly crap for flavour).

I'm talking about the real flavour kings: The Narda, Derringer, Magister and the other really small chambered flavor stuff (most of which I can't even remember the names of)... you know, the ones that can be an absolute beeach to build on.

Maybe I should run a good twisted setup on my Magi just to see how much better it can be vs the Velo. It's still a PITA to work with though, so much so that I'm really not looking forward to it at all.

TBH, I don't really run my dripper for flavour pun. Like I said before, I'm running it so I can easily change juices je primarily.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Jun 29 2016, 12:41 PM

Yeah, there are tanks that is catered for flavor as well. Pretty sure Kayfun is one of them. Need to buy one and mess around with it. One of my experience is pulling the coil higher for enhanced flavor.

There hope this is legit

Any reviews for the Nitecores Mod?

Not sure if any body got selected for the review program, at least not from here.

Anyway, VapeMail:



First time testing from these guys (who I heard about from right here), hopefully they don't disappoint.

TristanX The TaifunGT is pretty good for flavour too... though my builds on the 'Cado pretty much blow my old TFGT away. Granted, my coiling ability has improved somewhat since then and I did run the GT on a dinky 18350 tube - so it isn't really a fair comparison.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Jun 29 2016, 01:18 PM

Mini review pls after you check it out

really like their smilk... so "wangi" when vaping

I see from post #2146 that you meant RTA instead of RDA.

If you're just starting to build, I'll recommend the Uwell Crown v1 with optional RBA. Very good flavor from it, and it's not very hard to rebuild.

If you have some building experience and can be patient in dealing with some quirks of this atomizer, there is a better tank: The Ijoy Tornado RDTA. I've been using it daily since the 2nd of this month, and it's flavor and mouth-feel even on 2 normal Ni80 coils is as good as, if not better than the Crown.

I bought the Tornado because I was intrigued by the T6 deck, and discounted the blurb "RDA without dripping" as mere hype and exaggeration. I was wrong; it was not mere hype or marketing BS. For most of this month, all my other drippers and tanks are lying unused. Properly built, the tornado gives very very good flavor with the added bonus of thick and rich vapor on normal dual coils 38-42.5W 50VG to 80VG juices. I've even had to cut down on the percentage of flavorings and additives in my juices because the normal recipes taste way too chokingly intense on it.

Not all is rosy though. The Tornado has it's flaws:

Doesn't come with a spare glass.
No 510 adapter included in the latest batches.
The floating deck can be a pain to some builders.
The positive pin's gold-plating can come off.
Inconvenient to break in a new coil or dry-burn because the barrel must be screwed on in order to make contact.
Very tricky to remove the deck while there's still juice in the tank (solved by slapping on a vape band to help hold the glass in place with the top cap).
Wicking dual coils is a bit tricky to get right, but dead-easy for 4 or 6 coils. It needs a lot of cotton, and dual coils with ID of less than 3mm can be prone to leakage.
The top fill has a lock which is good, but no stopper to prevent the fill cover from being pulled off. The upside to that is everything in the top cap can be disassembled for easy cleaning.

Despite all those flaws, I find the quirks and shortcomings to be worthwhile....only because of the excellent flavor and thick vapor. I just use 2 normal coils on it; no need for claptons or more coils. Some time back I wrote that my Billow v3 was a "waste of money", and still stand by that even more so now. The Tornado was cheaper, and outperforms it so much.

Finally finished cleaning and recoiling the Magi, and yes, it was a HUGE pain in the behind. Just sticking a single twisted coil into that abomination of a deck took more time than finishing AND wicking a dual twisted setup on my Velo V2 for sure.

I don't know WTF I was smoking when I decided that getting the Magi as an "everyday dripper" was a good idea lol. It *was* cheap though... but I would probably have been better off with a Narda or a Drifter lol.

Well, at least now I have a more varied lineup to test juice on.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Jun 29 2016, 02:56 PM

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