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post Apr 28 2016, 10:57 PM

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Just dropping in to share a shot and some impressions of my new, 3-day old baby... my first (lol) regulated box setup ever after mostly staying on my array of beat-up mech clones (18350 Con-vela/Chi-pu + Tipufun) and squonkers (Vmod 2.0s) for about 2-3 years.

user posted imagePortrait of a Pico by Eirakkun, on Flickr

Do excuse the un-clouds bro wattage. I'm a old-timer MTL/RL guy so I don't really crank up the power much.

For a removable battery 75 watter the Pico is really not bad IMHO. For one it's absolutely tiny as mods go nowadays - an RX200 looks like a monster truck next to it and even the Balrog/VTC Mini seems needlessly large. Heck, mine's barely bigger than my colleague's eGrip.

Even being that small, it comes loaded with most of the things that the VTC mini has (sans the cool display and some other small stuff). So yeah, great size/feature ratio right there.

A shame for the Pico that the name is gonna get lotsa people confused. I've been in a few shops so far where asking "Pico?" will get me the tank rather than a mod lol.

Maybe later I should get a (Tipu) Pico tank and turn it into the Picoco. Or Pico2.

Right now the GobMiniV2 I have on top is doing a great enough job (despite being made largely obsolete with all the Velodecks coming out) so I'm in no hurry though.

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post Apr 29 2016, 05:29 PM

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Nitrile-fabric work gloves (get at Daiso/MrD for cheap) and/or those ceramic-silicone/latex/getah tweezers/pliers can help too... without damaging your tank too much.

Or just bloody pipe pliers. Komfem scratch everything it touches but also komfem can bring out. Plus komfem will break the Pyrex lol.

BTW: Just realised that dual coils double the nic hit. Took me three days of gradually becoming nic sick to find out this otherwise "DUH" fact.

No wonder people go for low-ish nic nowadays lol. Been a single coil vaper all my vaping life so it never really occurred to me before.

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post Apr 30 2016, 02:02 PM

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Read the KGD posts and got curious.... again. Thankfully (and conveniently) had a relative holidaying in Sapporo, so sent him to get some lol... though he could only find enough for my personal consumption only lol - vapers bought them all edi kot?

Mmmmm, can't wait for tomorrow when my cuz comes back.

Not that I'm not currently drowning in Muji cotton that I bought en masse right before they started the whole one person one pack rule lol.

But KGD... still not convinced that it's *that* much better (I mean, organic cotton is organic cotton is organic cotton) but heck, doesn't hurt to try.

I wonder how's Cellucotton in comparison.

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post Apr 30 2016, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(Gogoro @ Apr 30 2016, 08:40 PM)
pico tank gooding or not?can anyone suggest any new tank?
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Pico is okay: Fiddly to work with and leaks, but gives out nice flavour if built right. Kinda like my GobMini but with more PEEK.

You MTL or STL? Flavour or cloud chaser? Single or multi-coil? Helps to know these things to narrow down the shortlist. Nowadays new tanks pop up like bloody mushrooms lol.

As for what's new... New fat Griffin? Corolla?

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post May 1 2016, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(nekkidgramma @ Apr 30 2016, 11:37 PM)
The new trends seems to be the Genny/RTDA hybrid. Wismec Theorem, Boreas, Avocado and Pico are getting their limelight at least for now. Ceramic tanks are a duds. Just skip them.

I'm gonna get me a Avocado 24 myself. Its what the original Avocado should've been in the first place.
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Any of them worth checking out for an MTL/RLer like me? Most tanks now apparently cater more for the cloudzbro crowd, with hell airy draws even with AFC dialed down.

I know Geek Vape's been packaging single coil adapters/airflow reducers for their tanks since the old 'Cado, so that's worth noting, but the new fat 'Cado and fat Griffin is too big for my cute lil Pico (mod).

And the Pico (tank) is AFAIK pretty much a repackaged Taifun with AFC, PEEK and the piss-orange plastic tank... so it should be okay for MTL (relatively lol).

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As for ceramic tanks, you mean the hybrids with ceramic parts like the Moradin or the full ceramic paloozas like the Simba?

Also, any thoughts about the Notchcoil? Next step or transient fad? Personally I read "Ni legs" and I run TF away lol... not a fan of Ni in my vape, even when not part of the coils.

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post May 1 2016, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(nekkidgramma @ May 1 2016, 12:41 AM)
Very true indeed. It seems almost everything gets bigger holes in them that'll put my exes to shame in the past couple of years.

I know the authentic Pico checks out all the point you've listed but no way in hell I'm dropping that kinda dime on a vape gear. Goblin mini v2 was on my wishlist before I figured out the wicking problem so I'm just gonna skip it. MTL is a niche in vaping and since vaping itself is a niche, its a double doozy to find something that gets it right. But there's cubis, magister, zephyr, hurricane, avocado, pico, izi, gamma, bunch of others that names escapes me right now.

Coil-less tank like the Atlus. Great concept but poor execution. I think Notch Coils are just a passing fad, like a fart in the wind. It hits hard and fades as hard as it hits. Not really a fan of SS coils TBH. Too finicky to work with. Ni was great but I prefer good ol kanthal any day of the week.
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"The wicking problem" (or conversely "the leaking problem") on the GobMiniV2 isn't really THAT bad. It's almost non-existent if you use the "use-plenty-of-cotton-but-only-one-pointy-end-of-the-tweezers-jab's-worth-of-cotton-into-each-wicking-channel" method.... supposedly (haven't tried though... maybe next time).

If you just simply leave the channels unfilled with cotton (like I have right now) you need the "close-AFC-fill-but-don't-fill-full-turn-upside-down-wait-open-AFC-blow-excess/old-chimney-juice-while-upside-down-wipe-mount-suck-to-reestablish-vaccum" method to fill.

I've had great wicking and minimal leaking/flooding/gurgling with the GM2 so far filling it this way... but I do lose a few drops of liquid blowing the chimney dry... and laying it on its side for too long does make it gurgle a tiny bit.

Unfortunately both "methods" (lol) are not anywhere within any rational definition of "hassle-free" at all lol... so I understand why the GM2 turns people off when there are so many other tanks available that don't induce a throbbing headache every time you need to fill up or change wicks.

For me, personally chalking it up as the price to pay for wanting a "mini" RTA that is mostly metal and glass (unlike the PicoTank), has passable MTL (unlike the Serpent) and comes with a single-coil adapter for emergencies (unlike the Diablo Mini).

Having ticked all the boxes it has, I guess I can live with the crazy-ass "rituals" the it forces upon me lol.

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post May 1 2016, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(andyng38 @ May 1 2016, 02:00 AM)
LOL!! I always had the sneaking suspicion that those who used an un-condomed RX200 were compensating for something  brows.gif
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Real men wrap their stuff in carbon fibre.

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But jokes aside, why the eff don't we have mod condoms/covers made out of TPU or real bloody rubber? Sillicone stretches, attracts lint, is thick AF, gets stuck in your pockets... and, of course, ruins the looks of your beautiful mod.

To be fair, it must be a pain to mold TPU (or rubber) for more... complex-shaped mods (and it's gonna be a pain to put them on/off too). Also, silicone is bouncy-er than TPU, which helps heaps with shock absorption (though rubber is about the same).

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post May 6 2016, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(mulut99 @ May 5 2016, 09:52 PM)
All my tanks are same size diameter with the heatsink adaptor. Should be no problem on it.....velocity also can fit then i no need to worry about it and Goblin mini and Goblin mini v2 must use the heatsink adaptor else it will scratch the mod. I think only my TFV4 cannot fit it but i no use that tank anymore. Sleeping inside it own box sweat.gif
Since u got 2pcs pico.....sell 1pc cheap cheap to me ler tongue.gif  biggrin.gif
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Actually, the GobMiniV2 (and by extension, the GobMini) fits the Pico fine, even without any adapters, and the AFC levers work too. Heck, it looks like it's made for the Pico lol (even more than than Melo3Mini IMHO). It doesn't scratch anything also, if you're careful screwing it on ler.

Also, the Bachelor/Bach Nano, Aromanizer and Billow v2 (amongst other things) supposedly fit without adapters as well, so the clearance is more like 22.3-22.5 than a true 22mm really.

However, if you're more worried about the GobMini's tendency to piss all over, than yeah you can use the adapter. That said, mine (when wicked right) hasn't dumped over my 510 yet, at least not more than some condensation or a drop or two after refills on an unlucky day.

user posted imageDiminutive Daily Driver by Eirakkun, on Flickr

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BTW, the Pico really needs some "Boku no Pico" decals just to shock the hell out of people. For those who do not know, please Google with caution, it's definitely NSFW.

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post May 6 2016, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(mulut99 @ May 6 2016, 01:10 PM)
Wow!!! Look nice on Goblin mini v2. How is the performence on Goblin mini v2? Throat hit strong cause Goblin mini v2 is a throat hit tank compare with Goblin mini v1 but v1 more on flavor.
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Compared to GobMini? IDK really lol, I jumped straight from a clone TaifunGT + nanocap on a clone 'Vela to the Pico + GMv2. What I CAN say is that even though the TFGT-Nano is known to be quite a flavor tank (it was, after all, the only real KF rival back in the day), the GMv2 on 0.6 duals shits all over it, even in terms of flavor alone.

That said, I never really tried my TFGT-Nano on a regmod. Not that I could either as it won't fit the Pico unless I have the heatsink thingy. So it's not an apple to apple comparison. Besides, single vs duals aren't even fair to begin with lol.

But what I can say as for the GM vs GMv2 thing, is that I got the v2 on purpose because I can't be bothered with the bottom screw fill port. Unfortunately, the move to give it a bigger deck (after deleting that fill port) and better airflow does mean that *in theory* it should have lesser flavour compared to the original - and in general the Internetz does agree, though they also say that the difference is almost imperceptible.

For me it's a very small price to pay for top filling (even if it's fussy as hell on the GMv2).

As in hit, I can't say but the increased airflow (everything else being equal) might give the GMv2 more TH... I'm not really sure though.

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post May 6 2016, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(crydecember @ May 6 2016, 02:55 PM)
FDA is hitting hard in vaping industry.

Do you guys have any idea if we could help
in CASAA ?

Really bad if they really throw the banhammer,
the regulation is really ridiculous.

We need to do our part, but i have no idea how.
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Not much we can do really. But don't forget, we're currently stuck in limbo ourselves now too. What is happening to them (and the EU) sets a precedent. One that our gomen might just decide to follow.

That said, it's quite a while before it's set in stone for the US pun. CASAA and the other guys sure as heck aren't gonna take this lying down, but fighting FDA and Big Tobac AND Big Pharma isn't gonna be easy either.

ImSIEBEL Do you want an RTA or a normal tank? As far as flavor goes, it's still hard to beat the tried and true Kayfun, but for sure it's not a dual-coil monster lung hitter.

There's the Goblin Mini v2 too, which is good for flavour (at least to me)... but leaks like a bloody sieve unless you wick it and fill it up carefully.

Also the Pico RTA, which - being an updated Taifun GT-alike - should be pretty good flavour-wise.

Otherwise, I'm not really that well versed in the multitude of tanks on the market these days, unfortunately. What I do know is usually the smaller RTAs/Tanks are usually best for flavour, as far as physics go (smaller chamber = better flavor).

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post May 6 2016, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Nub! @ May 6 2016, 06:57 PM)
Anyone wants my goblin mini v2? Letting go at 50. 3 weeks usage. Im giving up trying to wick it, sometimes I got it right but most of the time I fail. None the less if a very flavourful tank with good vapor.
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It's such a good tank to sell off really. Youde doesn't even make them any more, so it's quite the collectible... though clones are easily available up on FT so I doubt it matters.

Have you tried GrimGreen's wicking method (for the GMv1)? Not sure if it can stop the leaking (it's gurgling a little - might need to play around with the tails a bit more next time)... but as far as dry hits are concerned, his method works wonderfully - the wicking at the coils are almost perfect.

But yeah, as good as it may be, the GMv2 might not be worth the fiddling with, so I understand wanting to sell it off.

Maybe you can try the Diablo? It's like the GM with less leaking and a velodeck (which means easier coil building). Supposedly anyway.
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QUOTE(Nub! @ May 6 2016, 11:29 PM)
I got my self a gemini. Never look back since..
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Nice. I often see it being compared a lot with the Griffin, with the Gem having better top airflow. I wonder how the flavour is with the Gem with the increased airflow.

Both are a bit too airy for my preferences though, and a bit too big for the tiny Pico.

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Sharing links = entries after all.

Anyway, myself still playing around with wicking the bloody GMv2 lol. So far GrimGreen's method has been the most successful so far... but with my MTLing, it's still not completely "problematic".

At least it doesn't leak lol. That much I'm thankful lol. Time to play with it a little more once I finish this cotton destroying Lemongrass Tobacco juice currently in the tank.

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QUOTE(markypcs @ May 11 2016, 04:25 PM)
Might just get one from altsmo then. FT hurry up and reply my ticket !!
Any idea when the V2 Tobeco clone will come out ?
Anyone knows wth is sqonking?
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"Squonking" is the age old practice of using a bottom fed RDA or bridgeless atomiser with a soft bottom mounted juice "tank". Squeezing the soft tank feeds the RDA/atomiser AND is actually where the word "squonk" comes from (as in you "squonk" the bottle).

A modern example of a "squonker" is the Kanger Dripbox.

Source: More than 2 years of squonking way back when with a couple of Vapage Vmod V2s.

Why people do it? Back then not many RTAs had comparable performance/flavour as RDAs (and sub-ohm tanks weren't even invented yet), so yeah people put two and two together and "squonking" was born.

Nowadays the gap isn't as wide so it's becoming more and more niche... mantaining a squonker can be quite a hassle so normally people just don't bother. But there are still hardcore fans out there... just Google "Reonauts" for one such group of fanatical fans.

BTW, one of the many uses of the word "squonk" itself outside of vaping is rather... NSFW. Just so you know.

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QUOTE(markypcs @ May 11 2016, 05:30 PM)
I see. Thanks for the explanation!
Googled it up, some people even mod their mods to be squonk-friendly
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That's why you'll see RDAs/drippers being marketed as "bottom feeding capable". It's primarily for the squonking folks.
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QUOTE(andyng38 @ May 12 2016, 09:00 PM)
Many reasons...

Dying trend
Ppl quit vape and went back to cigarettes
Ppl managed to quit cigs with vape, then quit vaping
We've been under siege by govt

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We've been "under siege" for a while now... so much so that it actually became a "trend" to vape to stick it up to the Gomen.

Unfortunately, these "trend followers" are also often what Abam Subra called "dual-users" so when the going got tougher, they just went back to their cigs.

So, lesser demand... lesser supply. Plus with all the raiding going around...

However, like everything else in Malaysia there are always "ways" to stay in business. Though these "ways" are often only affordable to the bigger, more well off and more influential vape shops.

I mean, there are even worse "vice shops" everywhere in Malaysia and they stay open fine lol.

Personally, as much as I like buying stuff online, there is just something about being able to hang out and chat at a good vape shop that makes you feel warm inside. So yeah, I'm hoping that some shops do survive, at least.

Or better, Malaysia adopts a governmental stance on vaping that is NOT like the US or EU (carpet bans and ridiculous restrictions)... but that's not where the money is at so I'm not particularly confident that this will happen.

If everything does die off, there will always be Abam Fastek and the Undertable Market.

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QUOTE(Hamsom @ May 13 2016, 09:52 AM)
I have been avoiding health reports on vaping since you know why. Maybe i shouldnt as much. I know vaping is not safest bet. Im curious too on how bad it is. So any reliable-nontoless-propaganda detailed articles regarding this lung inflammation thing?
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It's probably blown out of proportion like everything else lol. Anything you breathe that isn't pure air causes inflammation of the lungs to a certain extent pun.

If not I'll probably see more news about the UK Surgeon General reversing (or at least revising) his stance on his endorsement of Vaping... but as such I haven't.

As always, I can be wrong though.

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QUOTE(Wan.Him @ May 13 2016, 12:22 PM)
ye now business vape sangat teruk. last year (2015) very masyuk one. my shop usually got around 3k on weekdays and around 5k on weekend. but now noly 400 or 500 per day. Last week got one day only ppl come recoil. 5x4 = RM20 only. tutup kedai la tak lama lagi
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The "trend followers" all makan media one. Baca suratkhabar our effed up media tells them "ecigs dangerous", "battery meletup" all go back to ciggies already lol.

Which is pretty ironic lol, considering 3rd degree burns on your thighs is still plenty preferable to terminal cancer. But yeah... common sense lol.

Also, it's probably expected that mushrooming shops built around a "trend" will suffer once the trend dies out (or in our case, being killed slowly)... unless you've preemptively built a wide regular clientele network beforehand (well... amongst other things ler).

In the end, unless the Gomen takes drastic measures, it's prolly gonna roll like every other new niche business starting out. Shops (and commercial juice mixers) will thin out and only the better ones will remain. The threat of regulation is only speeding the process up je.

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QUOTE(Hamsom @ May 13 2016, 04:49 PM)
Survival of the fittest? Law of the jungle. I think its wise for who has a lot of funds to buy over closing smaller vape businesses.
Basically paying a friction of the costs. And then persevere/sustain. Sure its a risk, but aren't all business a risk. The main thing is to have loads of funds.

But then again, our culture isn't about that, most of our business are all about profit profit profit. Not to say profit is wrong, but i think to have other motivation than money would be good too. For a cause...so to say.

Somehow i think Vape Empire would survive. Well hopefully. Maybe close down a few stores when it goes really bad (since i think theyre almost everywhere).

Well thats just my kopi petang talk. I dont own a business. Hoping for the best.
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Yeah that. Didn't want to say out of courtesy but it's exactly that. That's how a market matures I guess.

Funny that I was actually thinking that VE would survive jugak. Their massive expansion did serve an extra, often overlooked purpose: Making them a very well known brand thoughout the region (check out VE Vietnam, Thailand and India), even if the current hostile local situation is hurting even them to the point that they're closing a few of their local branches (though I do think they can actually afford losing a few limbs at this point in time lol). At least people know they exist as a brand.

Hopefully they do survive. I've been to a couple of their shops and while pricing isn't cut rate cheap, most of their branches had relatively decent service, a wide variety of stocks and interesting time-limited offers that kept things fresh. They felt like the Tesco of local vaping shops really lol.

And yeah, as much as Giant/Mydin/TF can be cheaper, I'm a sucker for Tesco variety of choice, offers and decent service. Go figure lol.

So yeah, with the basics all nailed down, only the Gomen going full postal on vaping would kill VE off I guess (and even then I hear they have been taking preemptive measures to make sure that they won't go down that easy if the Gomen does decide to go full retard).

On the other hand, you can always go full "boutique" and "exclusive" as what LeGadgets had done. Sure, their prices can be cekik darah, but I honestly don't think their clientele cares lol.

It'll be pretty fun looking at how the market matures really... provided our Gomen doesn't go FDA or TPD on us.

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QUOTE(kuli2sahaja @ May 13 2016, 06:16 PM)
FT Sunday sale
Its that time of the month again to eat maggi until payday. tongue.gif
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Damn... why you do this to me. I already have a filled up cart waiting for me and was thinking of riding the wave up to payday after missing the Labour Day sales thing.

Mmmm... Megi.

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