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post Mar 27 2016, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Kellicros @ Mar 27 2016, 02:34 PM)
Those who have experience with importing MKB from taobao, is there any problem with local customs ? will you be taxed?

Also, is there a reason to not use Taobao's own direct shipping?
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u can ask KuzumiTaiga
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post Mar 27 2016, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(I<3LYN @ Mar 27 2016, 10:12 AM)
Coincidentally i also wrapped my cheap china brand mechanical keyboard recently, E-Element X-7300 with the exact same vinyl wrap pattern (not the same brand though, just some cheap unknown brand).
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Wow, yours looks like an absolute nightmare to do.

Why didn't you just get the black version? Or the version with more uniform base plate. Price should roughly be the same.

Can't see the detail in the wrapping either due to potato console.gif


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post Mar 27 2016, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(technoraver @ Mar 27 2016, 04:07 PM)
u can ask KuzumiTaiga
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QUOTE(Kellicros @ Mar 27 2016, 02:34 PM)
Those who have experience with importing MKB from taobao, is there any problem with local customs ? will you be taxed?

Also, is there a reason to not use Taobao's own direct shipping?
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hmm, never bring in from taobao before, my bulk supply for mechanical keyboards is based on looking for supplier on AliBaba CN. hmm.gif

just go talk to any agent and they should be able to help you, but I know for a fact you should be worried about taxation, it's not a rare incident to get taxed from buying from Taobao.

DEFINITELY do not use Taobao direct shipping (especially if you're not able to read Chinese, A LOT of steps) way higher risk of taxation and longer waiting period, just pay the mark up fee by agent if the item isn't so expensive. Direct shipping is good for buying large quantities of cheap non electronic stuff that you're not rushing for.
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post Mar 27 2016, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Mar 27 2016, 04:20 PM)
hmm, never bring in from taobao before, my bulk supply for mechanical keyboards is based on looking for supplier on AliBaba CN.  hmm.gif

just go talk to any agent and they should be able to help you, but I know for a fact you should be worried about taxation, it's not a rare incident to get taxed from buying from Taobao.

DEFINITELY do not use Taobao direct shipping (especially if you're not able to read Chinese, A LOT of steps) way higher risk of taxation and longer waiting period, just pay the mark up fee by agent if the item isn't so expensive. Direct shipping is good for buying large quantities of cheap non electronic stuff that you're not rushing for.
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Thanks for the info, I have bought normal items via taobao direct shipping many times(yes I can read Chinese), but a MKB seems too fragile for it.

I'm eyeing on this Coolermaster Masterkeys PRO L

RM5XX for Cherry MX RGB Full Size seems like a very good deal, but if it involves taxes and agent fees then it might not worth it anymore. blush.gif
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post Mar 27 2016, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Mar 27 2016, 07:02 AM)
Both i see as gooding. Just bluetooth over wired. Both detachable.
But im sure u buy coz gateron blues. Pls review sifu.
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There are actually plenty of reasons not to get the bluetooth one....
1) The USB cable for the VB87 only acts as a charger, it doesn't connect the keyboard to the PC
2) Some people have reported connection issues yet there hasn't been any firmware update till now
3) No dedicated on/off button which is very important to me, I don't want to fiddle with the FN key while wondering whether it's already off or still on
4) You'll lose range if you transplant the VB87 into an aluminium case, which is what I intend to do
5) If buying from Massdrop, they are forced to ship it using expensive DHL due to the Li-ion battery inside (this adds at least RM100 to the cost)
6) I already have one of this

Conclusion is I'd strongly recommend against buying it until Varmilo releases an updated version that addresses #1-3 above at least.


QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Mar 27 2016, 07:02 AM)
Release ur heard cheap2 to me fellow blue lover. tongue.gif
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I am thinking of letting go of both my Filcos but they won't be cheap tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Kellicros @ Mar 27 2016, 04:29 PM)
Thanks for the info, I have bought normal items via taobao direct shipping many times(yes I can read Chinese), but a MKB seems too fragile for it.

I'm eyeing on this Coolermaster Masterkeys PRO L

RM5XX for Cherry MX RGB Full Size seems like a very good deal, but if it involves taxes and agent fees then it might not worth it anymore.  blush.gif
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hmm.gif hmm.gif

Any idea what's the local pricing here?

I calculated inclusive of agent fees, it should still come below RM690 before tax (brown switch).
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post Mar 27 2016, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Mar 27 2016, 04:49 PM)
hmm.gif  hmm.gif

Any idea what's the local pricing here?

I calculated inclusive of agent fees, it should still come below RM690 before tax (brown switch).
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Could not find anyone selling it locally, anyway, if taobao direct:

869RMB(Brown switch) + 32RMB(Taobao Direct) = 891RMB = RM56X
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post Mar 27 2016, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(Kellicros @ Mar 27 2016, 06:41 PM)
Could not find anyone selling it locally, anyway, if taobao direct:

869RMB(Brown switch) + 32RMB(Taobao Direct) = 891RMB = RM56X
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then seems like a no brainer to go through Direct, but better get advice from the Taobao direct thread in Serious Kopitiam for advice. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Mar 27 2016, 04:49 PM)
hmm.gif  hmm.gif

Any idea what's the local pricing here?

I calculated inclusive of agent fees, it should still come below RM690 before tax (brown switch).
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Less 100 but without warranty worth it? CM had 2 (or 3 years) warranty.
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post Mar 27 2016, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Mar 27 2016, 08:06 PM)
Less 100 but without warranty worth it? CM had 2 (or 3 years) warranty.
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hard to say... hmm.gif CM is 3 years btw (at one time it was 4 by Jayacom).
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QUOTE(davey.havok @ Mar 27 2016, 04:33 PM)
There are actually plenty of reasons not to get the bluetooth one....
1) The USB cable for the VB87 only acts as a charger, it doesn't connect the keyboard to the PC
2) Some people have reported connection issues yet there hasn't been any firmware update till now
3) No dedicated on/off button which is very important to me, I don't want to fiddle with the FN key while wondering whether it's already off or still on
4) You'll lose range if you transplant the VB87 into an aluminium case, which is what I intend to do
5) If buying from Massdrop, they are forced to ship it using expensive DHL due to the Li-ion battery inside (this adds at least RM100 to the cost)
6) I already have one of this

Conclusion is I'd strongly recommend against buying it until Varmilo releases an updated version that addresses #1-3 above at least.
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oke, something worth to note for. tenkiyu mastah notworthy.gif
all in all, detachable is oledy much win as long have one of this

QUOTE(davey.havok @ Mar 27 2016, 04:33 PM)
I am thinking of letting go of both my Filcos but they won't be cheap  tongue.gif
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one TKL pls.

inb4, still miskin doh.gif

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post Mar 27 2016, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Mar 27 2016, 08:09 PM)
hard to say...  hmm.gif  CM is 3 years btw (at one time it was 4 by Jayacom).
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Thing is, I can't find any local store selling that MKB, guess I'll wait.
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post Mar 27 2016, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(Kellicros @ Mar 27 2016, 04:29 PM)
Thanks for the info, I have bought normal items via taobao direct shipping many times(yes I can read Chinese), but a MKB seems too fragile for it.

I'm eyeing on this Coolermaster Masterkeys PRO L

RM5XX for Cherry MX RGB Full Size seems like a very good deal, but if it involves taxes and agent fees then it might not worth it anymore.  blush.gif
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Imported an IBM Model M and a Magicforce 68 before, about one and half of a week then the parcel arrived at my doorstep biggrin.gif
But need to see china custom and also malaysia custom, sometimes lucky they process fast, if not need wait for a few days more tongue.gif
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post Mar 27 2016, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Kellicros @ Mar 27 2016, 09:40 PM)
Thing is, I can't find any local store selling that MKB, guess I'll wait.
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Wait for it. Should be in MY soon.
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post Mar 27 2016, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(Chryos1029 @ Mar 27 2016, 10:25 PM)
Imported an IBM Model M and a Magicforce 68 before, about one and half of a week then the parcel arrived at my doorstep biggrin.gif
But need to see china custom and also malaysia custom, sometimes lucky they process fast, if not need wait for a few days more  tongue.gif
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recently kena fk by China customs, brought in fifteen keyboards one batch, coincidentally that batch of flight kena lockdown because got drug trafficking. doh.gif delayed by a week
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post Mar 28 2016, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Mar 27 2016, 10:48 PM)
recently kena fk by China customs, brought in fifteen keyboards one batch, coincidentally that batch of flight kena lockdown because got drug trafficking. doh.gif delayed by a week
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I also kena before, they said china custom being strict for some reason and my shipment was delayed. I actually shopped many times with taobao direct before, all non fragile items were packed together pretty badly, wondering if they will give more care to a mkb, also, taobao direct uses skynet when for local courier.

BTW, I heard all made-in-china items has no import tax, is it true?
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post Mar 28 2016, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(Kellicros @ Mar 28 2016, 12:16 AM)
I also kena before, they said china custom being strict for some reason and my shipment was delayed. I actually shopped many times with taobao direct before, all non fragile items were packed together pretty badly, wondering if they will give more care to a mkb, also, taobao direct uses skynet when for local courier.

BTW, I heard all made-in-china items has no import tax, is it true?
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Any item valued over RM500 is subject to GST, import tax, etc. SIRIM too. Yes, definitely less likely than buying from the US, but Chinese imports are taxable as w
WRONGGGGG, got import tax! ell. This is where the agents come in, they lower the risk by a lot.

Skynet is good for cheaper uses, but for mine since it is a business involving mechanicals, I use a more expensive courier service, but if you're just buying one for yourself, just use skynet. ABX is fine too.

Courier to avoid: Kangaroo

P/S: They won't give extra care to mkb, etc, the only ones whom you should rely to give extra care would be the seller themselves, couriers no give fuk. ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(davey.havok @ Mar 27 2016, 04:09 PM)
Wow, yours looks like an absolute nightmare to do.

Why didn't you just get the black version? Or the version with more uniform base plate. Price should roughly be the same.

Can't see the detail in the wrapping either due to potato  console.gif
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well i did ordered the black version but i realized the seller (taobao) tricked me since they mentioned Black versions are replaced with gray under the description of the product page while still providing black as an option when you order it.
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QUOTE(dannrawr @ Mar 27 2016, 04:03 AM)
im guessing Poker 2
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What an interesting looking keyboard LOL too bad it doesn't have the numpad sad.gif

I've seen people discussing online talking about other keyboards being better than the Corsair K70 but did not state their reason. Anyone have any opinion on that?

The most common things I heard about the K70 are the LED burning out within 4 months and the keyboard dying within 3.
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QUOTE(SheepMekk @ Mar 28 2016, 03:36 AM)
What an interesting looking keyboard LOL too bad it doesn't have the numpad sad.gif

I've seen people discussing online talking about other keyboards being better than the Corsair K70 but did not state their reason. Anyone have any opinion on that? 

The most common things I heard about the K70 are the LED burning out within 4 months and the keyboard dying within 3.
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in my opinion, a mkb is always better than a gaming mkb i cant find the correlation idk why i just feel it that way peace (Y)

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