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post Mar 9 2016, 08:45 PM, updated 10y ago

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post Mar 9 2016, 08:45 PM

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post Mar 9 2016, 08:53 PM

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post Mar 9 2016, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(-Hzu- @ Mar 9 2016, 07:52 PM)
I read your question #1 again since I misread it. Mechanical keyboard won't help you get better in programming. I'm not sure what you're trying to say but I think you may have written your own question wrong. And about that keyboard, I can't remember his name but he's here. Just go few pages back, he have a big link in his signature. Also, MX Board 2.0 (by Cherry Corp. themselves) is now selling for RM170 only at Ultimate.Zone.
I use it with my laptop since my laptop gets very hot at the palm rest (stupid Nvidia).

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I guess you are referring to https://www.facebook.com/UltimatedotZone/
its 2nd hand, and only 1 in stock.
RM170 (Used for 1 month) Cherry MX-Board 2.0 red

New from lelong, RM235 red,blue,brown
http://www.lelong.com.my/cherry-mx-board-2...7-01-Sale-I.htm
too bad its got no extra volume key above the numpad.

This is cheaper then Ducky Zero

TS how about adding Cherry MX-Board 2.0 to your By Price Factor

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QUOTE(rurushu @ Mar 8 2016, 10:11 PM)
Outemu Blues - Aula Demon King, LingYi BlackWidow

Gateron Blues - I only knew one Rantopad MXX which is the one Im using right now to type you this recommendation tongue.gif
Total is less than RM230 if you buy yourself, if you use 3rd party taobao service then maybe more...
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what about added these clones to your list for noobs too?
or are they just not worth mentioning as its same price as Cherry MX-Board 2.0?

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post Mar 9 2016, 09:13 PM

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its been so long but im still being tagged laugh.gif
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post Mar 9 2016, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Mar 9 2016, 08:41 PM)
was it difficult for you to learn dvorak? i have no idea, qwerty is like 2nd nature to me (almost 20 years) and i do like the idea of dvorak but thought of re-learning to type just scares me. you know what i mean? what made you wanted to learn dvorak?

LOL i just used that website to test myself, first try was 66wpm 3 errors and i was not even trying hard,
2nd try i was hoping i would do better BUT i only got 44
3rd try was 50. wtf.... are my fingers stressed already?
i think i am happy with 66wpm, dvorak probably would help me type faster, but more importantly its less stress on the fingers.

But man re-learn how to type is like.... hard......
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Learn dvorak is not hard. You die die learn, sure can learn it.
Take your job as an example, let's say you have a boss..
Your boss, send you to new dept for new task, at the end, you still need to learn that.
Because you want that job.

I learn dvorak typing for reduce fingers stress from RSI.
Dvorak won't get you faster, that's always a fake rumors. I don't think my typing speed increase as well. I always capped around 75 wpm only max.
I think a lot during type, write codes, and write emails.
You look at those 10fastfingers or other typing website. Fastest and top ranking always qwerty. laugh.gif
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post Mar 9 2016, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(dadudeneverabides @ Today, 08:41 PM)
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Ive have seen many Vietnamese contractors in action they are more skilled > Indonesian > Myanmar > Bangala, Im generalising of course.

I just re-read jxsonl post, its funny how we interpret things in our minds, how we see the world through our eyes translated through our mind/belief systems which gives us our emotion ie good or bad etc...

I didnt translated it as as MK = badass programmer. I took his question as would it help him program in terms of fingers stress, lots of typing etc... going from laptop to MK. I personally have a laptop and hate typing on it, i just using a normal kb atm. feels much better then laptop kb.

currently deciding if i want to spend around RM250-300 to upgrade to a MK. the difference will probably not be as profound as going from laptop to normal KB.
Im leaning on using that money and getting a better speaker instead, Edifier R1900TV which is 2x more expensive.

This post has been edited by Leon be here now: Mar 9 2016, 09:30 PM
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post Mar 9 2016, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 9 2016, 09:13 PM)
its been so long but im still being tagged laugh.gif
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It's my pleasure to tag HHKB big god every version iteration of LYN MKB Club new thread. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 9 2016, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 9 2016, 09:32 PM)
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It's my pleasure to tag HHKB big god every version iteration of LYN MKB Club new thread.  biggrin.gif
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well, my HHKB still pumping iron everyday, everynight, and ... no ants (i guess)
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post Mar 9 2016, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 9 2016, 09:21 PM)
Learn dvorak is not hard. You die die learn, sure can learn it.
Take your job as an example, let's say you have a boss..
Your boss, send you to new dept for new task, at the end, you still need to learn that.
Because you want that job.

I learn dvorak typing for reduce fingers stress from RSI.
Dvorak won't get you faster, that's always a fake rumors. I don't think my typing speed increase as well. I always capped around 75 wpm only max.
I think a lot during type, write codes, and write emails.
You look at those 10fastfingers or other typing website. Fastest and top ranking always qwerty. laugh.gif
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Just wondering, do u set dvorak on ur phone too hmm.gif
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post Mar 9 2016, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 9 2016, 09:21 PM)
Learn dvorak is not hard. You die die learn, sure can learn it.
Take your job as an example, let's say you have a boss..
Your boss, send you to new dept for new task, at the end, you still need to learn that.
Because you want that job.

I learn dvorak typing for reduce fingers stress from RSI.
Dvorak won't get you faster, that's always a fake rumors. I don't think my typing speed increase as well. I always capped around 75 wpm only max.
I think a lot during type, write codes, and write emails.
You look at those 10fastfingers or other typing website. Fastest and top ranking always qwerty. laugh.gif
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Yeh im sure if i put my mind in it i would be able to pick itup. Its just I not that keen on re-learning, my mind tells me its hard, and boring, 66wps qwerty is ok, i dont type that much anyway, re-learn dvorak may not pay off, i would have more fun watching youtube or reading articles that i am interested in.

i know dvorak key placement is optimal, reduce fingers travel distance etc.. though that would translate to increases speed.
But yes the only real reason to learn dvorak in my opinion too is to reduce stress.
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post Mar 9 2016, 09:49 PM

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to the one who mentioned that buying MKs does not make you a good programmer, that is obvious, thats why i mentioned i know using mk does not make me a better programmer, it's the brain and problem solving mindset...

But thanks for all who are patient and helped answered some questioned i had notworthy.gif , sorry for any misunderstanding caused
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post Mar 9 2016, 09:53 PM

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[quote=jxsonl,Mar 9 2016, 04:10 PM]
Hello MK sifus I'm quite interested to get one MK (most prob TKLs) but am still reluctant due to the cost and worried that I may not like it after purchasing...
Though after so many research and have saw all who have used MKs rarely have negative feedback

Thus I'd like to have some questions answered to further help me decide notworthy.gif

I'm still a uni student who've just started going into programming and have started to go into android app development (still researching myself and learning) / web dev (currently interning and long story short - doing front end web development, involves php/bash/database/simple html/ jquery etc... )

1) Does MK help in programming/developing/coding, hopefully there are some who have used a laptop keyboard and moved to MK and share your experiences as this is my current situation, (using laptop keyboard)

2) I'm planning to buy a blank keycaps, but as i'm still new to programming, i'm still not familiar with all the symbols used (it'll be pretty cool if i could code on a blank keyboard tho.. so badass haha sweat.gif )

3) How does your colleagues react to those MK typing sounds as i understand they can get quite clicky (planning to get brown switches most likely)

4) Are all keycap size standard? Because i'm using a macbook air, and plan to remap the button via software for my command key and also change keycaps for the windows key to command key

I understand that MKs does not make a good programmer, but i'd just like some feedback and advices from sifus here and see what advices you all can give notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

Also is it true that some programmer actually just bring their MKs to work and code on VI/VIM without a laptop?? rclxub.gif

Thank you all in advance

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1. No. The tools is only as good as the one who uses it. I think almost all people (I mentioned ALMOST) dont really enjoy typing on laptop keyboard, Im one of them, because they really suck, so thin and sometimes press already dont really know whether the keypress is registered or not puke.gif

2. Being cool is not the point here, is how you want the typing feel when you type on your keyboard, there are many materials used to make keycaps, ABS, PBT, and POM are the more common ones, to go to the niche there are metallic ones such as titanium, zinc alloy, aluminium, resin etc. But i think you should keep away from these first, getting started modestly is the best path here

3. I have an uncontrolled urge to bring my MX Blue boards to work, but due to my working environment (non-cubicle, but is spaced, your colleague all can and hear what is going on at your place) so Im still hesitant on this, but maybe one day i cannot resist anymore and might get some O-rings and bring it to work

4. Not really, even if you mean layout there are a few, but the common ones are the US ANSI with long enter and long backspace, ISO is another example, and then you have what quovadis said, Dvorak etc.

As for the keycaps themselves, they are mostly standard, the only problem maybe lie on the last row of the keyboard (CTRl, Winkey, ALT, SPACE row)
you can check Filco Majestouch 2 vs Razer Blackwidow for example. If you going to change keycaps, then would suggest you stick with boards that uses US ANSI layout for easier compatibility and less headache.

Also, i think as long as you got the skills, no matter what keyboard you use, people will be impressed by you laugh.gif

Just my 2 cents though

[quote=Panda2K,Mar 9 2016, 08:08 PM]
Interesting, I game on a gaming laptop due to portability. Abosolutely hate chiclet keys. Won't be looking at the more expensive keyboards, as my laptop would be obselete for probably the next 4-5 years. From there I'll be moving to a desktop, and then I'll be getting a fancy mkb. Would need your advice in the future then icon_rolleyes.gif
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I think getting a mechanical keyboard have nothing to do whether or not your laptop expired due to advancement of technology as mechanical keyboard is built with durability and longevity in mind, take IBM's Model M for example, some board made back in the 80s and stlll rocking till this day laugh.gif

Also, I think as you progress down the mechanical keyboard road, you will start to realize and appreciate the beauty of simplicity and cleanness of your board.
So i wouldnt comment on your current idea of getting a fancy bling bling or weird layout keyboard

[quote=-Hzu-,Mar 9 2016, 08:11 PM]
Don't get a fancy board. Get the most basic you can find and make it fancier yourself. Avoid gaming brands at all cost.
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[quote=dadudeneverabides,Mar 9 2016, 08:41 PM]
LOL
Give chance a bit la...
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There was once this group of Vietnamese people (I'm not being racist here, so just wait until you finished the story before thinking about that) who tried to help me renovate my house without charging labour.

We bought 5 different types of tiles for the walls, but 4 of those types of tiles were for other areas of the house, including bathroom walls, wall highlights, floor and exterior. The last type of tile was for the kitchen wall.

Now, I, as well as my trusty translator, SPECIFICALLY told them that the one SPECIFIC tile is for the kitchen wall, and they should ONLY use that tile for the kitchen wall. After giving them the specific instruction, we left the house, still under renovation (on top of that, there were two guys and two girls there, so guess what they were actually doing).

A few days later, I returned to the house to check up on the progress.

What I saw that day, I will forever hold that as proof that you should never trust idiots.

These guys used up all five types of tiles on my kitchen wall. Five types of tiles. Some of them, they cut up to triangular shapes to "fit" the corners and edges of the door leading to the downstairs bathroom.

It was, as Tobi would say, a disaster.

After all that, we had to get someone to tear up every single tile laid out and redo them at additional cost since they have to take down the tiles, buy new tiles and put the new tiles up. It probably cost me two to three times as much because I decided to let a bunch of nobodies do it.

Coming back on topic, you might think that the story has nothing to do with what I posted but in fact, it is the same simple principle as I have outlined.

To clean up a bloody mess, you need to tear everything down and rebuild from scratch.

Ask yourself, what kind of idiot thinks that buying expensive tools make you better at the craft?

Does buying Nike Jordans make you play better basketball? Does buying the most expensive pair of Adidas boots make you the next Messi? Does buying a Ferrari make you the next Schumacher? If any idiot with a disposable income answer yes to these questions, they would soon be relieved of said income and end up being in debt. All these products do is make you look "badass" while it doesn't really do much for your potential career in these fields.

Sekian, IDGAF what you think.
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Gosh, you are really straight to the point shocking.gif but true enough
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post Mar 9 2016, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 9 2016, 09:37 PM)
well, my HHKB still pumping iron everyday, everynight, and ... no ants (i guess)
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haha.. Great to hear that.

QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Mar 9 2016, 09:39 PM)
Just wondering, do u set dvorak on ur phone too  hmm.gif
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qwerty in phone

QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Mar 9 2016, 09:42 PM)
Yeh im sure if i put my mind in it i would be able to pick itup. Its just I not that keen on re-learning, my mind tells me its hard, and boring, 66wps qwerty is ok, i dont type that much anyway, re-learn dvorak may not pay off, i would have more fun watching youtube or reading articles that i am interested in.

i know dvorak key placement is optimal, reduce fingers travel distance etc.. though that would translate to increases speed.
But yes the only real reason to learn dvorak in my opinion too is to reduce stress.
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Ya, just invest your time somewhere else.
If you seldom type, not really recommend you into Dvorak, since not help much.
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post Mar 9 2016, 10:02 PM

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Wow... the quotes seem to be effed up lolx.
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post Mar 9 2016, 10:08 PM

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damn... just realized that...

maybe due to too many levels of quotes already... system gone haywire... >.<
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 9 2016, 09:55 PM)
qwerty in phone
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QUOTE(rurushu @ Mar 9 2016, 09:53 PM)
3. I have an uncontrolled urge to bring my MX Blue boards to work, but due to my working environment (non-cubicle, but is spaced, your colleague all can and hear what is going on at your place) so Im still hesitant on this, but maybe one day i cannot resist anymore and might get some O-rings and bring it to work 
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why not try and see what they say? might got this?
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post Mar 9 2016, 10:53 PM

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Too lazy to read through the whole Vietnamese kitchen wall incident.

All I gathered is that there were 2 guys and 2 girls who probably used their bodily fluids to stick the tiles on the wall.
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