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rurushu
post Mar 9 2016, 09:53 PM

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[quote=jxsonl,Mar 9 2016, 04:10 PM]
Hello MK sifus I'm quite interested to get one MK (most prob TKLs) but am still reluctant due to the cost and worried that I may not like it after purchasing...
Though after so many research and have saw all who have used MKs rarely have negative feedback

Thus I'd like to have some questions answered to further help me decide notworthy.gif

I'm still a uni student who've just started going into programming and have started to go into android app development (still researching myself and learning) / web dev (currently interning and long story short - doing front end web development, involves php/bash/database/simple html/ jquery etc... )

1) Does MK help in programming/developing/coding, hopefully there are some who have used a laptop keyboard and moved to MK and share your experiences as this is my current situation, (using laptop keyboard)

2) I'm planning to buy a blank keycaps, but as i'm still new to programming, i'm still not familiar with all the symbols used (it'll be pretty cool if i could code on a blank keyboard tho.. so badass haha sweat.gif )

3) How does your colleagues react to those MK typing sounds as i understand they can get quite clicky (planning to get brown switches most likely)

4) Are all keycap size standard? Because i'm using a macbook air, and plan to remap the button via software for my command key and also change keycaps for the windows key to command key

I understand that MKs does not make a good programmer, but i'd just like some feedback and advices from sifus here and see what advices you all can give notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

Also is it true that some programmer actually just bring their MKs to work and code on VI/VIM without a laptop?? rclxub.gif

Thank you all in advance

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1. No. The tools is only as good as the one who uses it. I think almost all people (I mentioned ALMOST) dont really enjoy typing on laptop keyboard, Im one of them, because they really suck, so thin and sometimes press already dont really know whether the keypress is registered or not puke.gif

2. Being cool is not the point here, is how you want the typing feel when you type on your keyboard, there are many materials used to make keycaps, ABS, PBT, and POM are the more common ones, to go to the niche there are metallic ones such as titanium, zinc alloy, aluminium, resin etc. But i think you should keep away from these first, getting started modestly is the best path here

3. I have an uncontrolled urge to bring my MX Blue boards to work, but due to my working environment (non-cubicle, but is spaced, your colleague all can and hear what is going on at your place) so Im still hesitant on this, but maybe one day i cannot resist anymore and might get some O-rings and bring it to work

4. Not really, even if you mean layout there are a few, but the common ones are the US ANSI with long enter and long backspace, ISO is another example, and then you have what quovadis said, Dvorak etc.

As for the keycaps themselves, they are mostly standard, the only problem maybe lie on the last row of the keyboard (CTRl, Winkey, ALT, SPACE row)
you can check Filco Majestouch 2 vs Razer Blackwidow for example. If you going to change keycaps, then would suggest you stick with boards that uses US ANSI layout for easier compatibility and less headache.

Also, i think as long as you got the skills, no matter what keyboard you use, people will be impressed by you laugh.gif

Just my 2 cents though

[quote=Panda2K,Mar 9 2016, 08:08 PM]
Interesting, I game on a gaming laptop due to portability. Abosolutely hate chiclet keys. Won't be looking at the more expensive keyboards, as my laptop would be obselete for probably the next 4-5 years. From there I'll be moving to a desktop, and then I'll be getting a fancy mkb. Would need your advice in the future then icon_rolleyes.gif
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I think getting a mechanical keyboard have nothing to do whether or not your laptop expired due to advancement of technology as mechanical keyboard is built with durability and longevity in mind, take IBM's Model M for example, some board made back in the 80s and stlll rocking till this day laugh.gif

Also, I think as you progress down the mechanical keyboard road, you will start to realize and appreciate the beauty of simplicity and cleanness of your board.
So i wouldnt comment on your current idea of getting a fancy bling bling or weird layout keyboard

[quote=-Hzu-,Mar 9 2016, 08:11 PM]
Don't get a fancy board. Get the most basic you can find and make it fancier yourself. Avoid gaming brands at all cost.
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[quote=dadudeneverabides,Mar 9 2016, 08:41 PM]
LOL
Give chance a bit la...
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There was once this group of Vietnamese people (I'm not being racist here, so just wait until you finished the story before thinking about that) who tried to help me renovate my house without charging labour.

We bought 5 different types of tiles for the walls, but 4 of those types of tiles were for other areas of the house, including bathroom walls, wall highlights, floor and exterior. The last type of tile was for the kitchen wall.

Now, I, as well as my trusty translator, SPECIFICALLY told them that the one SPECIFIC tile is for the kitchen wall, and they should ONLY use that tile for the kitchen wall. After giving them the specific instruction, we left the house, still under renovation (on top of that, there were two guys and two girls there, so guess what they were actually doing).

A few days later, I returned to the house to check up on the progress.

What I saw that day, I will forever hold that as proof that you should never trust idiots.

These guys used up all five types of tiles on my kitchen wall. Five types of tiles. Some of them, they cut up to triangular shapes to "fit" the corners and edges of the door leading to the downstairs bathroom.

It was, as Tobi would say, a disaster.

After all that, we had to get someone to tear up every single tile laid out and redo them at additional cost since they have to take down the tiles, buy new tiles and put the new tiles up. It probably cost me two to three times as much because I decided to let a bunch of nobodies do it.

Coming back on topic, you might think that the story has nothing to do with what I posted but in fact, it is the same simple principle as I have outlined.

To clean up a bloody mess, you need to tear everything down and rebuild from scratch.

Ask yourself, what kind of idiot thinks that buying expensive tools make you better at the craft?

Does buying Nike Jordans make you play better basketball? Does buying the most expensive pair of Adidas boots make you the next Messi? Does buying a Ferrari make you the next Schumacher? If any idiot with a disposable income answer yes to these questions, they would soon be relieved of said income and end up being in debt. All these products do is make you look "badass" while it doesn't really do much for your potential career in these fields.

Sekian, IDGAF what you think.
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Gosh, you are really straight to the point shocking.gif but true enough
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post Mar 9 2016, 10:08 PM

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damn... just realized that...

maybe due to too many levels of quotes already... system gone haywire... >.<
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post Mar 14 2016, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Koki @ Mar 12 2016, 11:48 PM)
Hi guys, I'm new here and I'd really like to learn some more stuff about mechanical keyboards, and are browns and blues just differ in the click sound? I've been dying to find a Filco Majestouch Ninja myself actually sad.gif
Wanted to find second hand, but kinda difficult.

I've reviewed a few MKBs on NLT (link in my sig, not a promo), particularly the red and blue, from both Kailh and Cherry.
I never really owned an MKB myself, and I think it's time to jump since my Microsoft keyboard is dying on me.

EDIT: Actually I wanna ask, any MKB with the Menu Key intact?
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Whoa... after reviewing some mechanical keyboards and you can still stay using on membranes for so long??? shocking.gif

QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Mar 12 2016, 11:24 PM)
Hai guys, still throwing money down this endless money pit?  laugh.gif
I stopped buying for almost 1 year already. Last one was type S.

Just dropping by to say hi
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QUOTE(zongeva @ Mar 13 2016, 05:08 PM)
Suddenly thought of mkb club and decided to drop by.
My last purchase was G2Pro and Shine2 is still my daily work horse biggrin.gif
Haven't really think of quitting this fever though, hope to get a Topre switch board in the future. biggrin.gif
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Hi Kai and Zongeva,

Long time no see you guys... bye.gif
previously I also stopped for like 2 years, then now felt like macam sucked back in again doh.gif
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post Mar 14 2016, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Koki @ Mar 14 2016, 01:06 PM)
Well frankly there are two reasons... Firstly my 5 year old keyboard and mouse comes in a set, but since and I got an RoG Gladius the set now becomes a keyboard alone. Keyboard was also creaking when I press a little harder
Secondly is because MiskinBro™
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Ahh... I see...
I thought the sponsors let the reviewer keep the review unit of the mechanical keyboards.. hmm.gif


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post Mar 14 2016, 05:27 PM

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Guys, do you know where in KL or Selangor area where there are shops that have demo units of Novatouch?

Wanna take a few presses to see how topre feels...
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post Mar 14 2016, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(davey.havok @ Mar 14 2016, 06:28 PM)
HeavyArm SS15
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thanks! will go test test laugh.gif
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post Mar 15 2016, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 15 2016, 01:30 PM)
Guys,

Malaysia MKB community will mark another big milestone.
Currently, I'm testing and do backend stuff on the new keyboard forum.

New keyboard forum is targeting to centralised all keyboards users.
From newbie membrane and to higher end mkb, etc.
It's a dedicated keyboard forum community.

It's currently in progress:
- I'm just setting up the theme, and admin stuff backend last night.

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New forum is founded by myself, quovadis123

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Thanks for those people always discourage me. Thank you so much. smile.gif
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Malaysia's Geekhack/ Deskthority!!!!

The key question is.... what is the forum's name!!!! laugh.gif
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post Mar 16 2016, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(justnits @ Mar 16 2016, 03:47 PM)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71507.0

i like drama when i don't have to pay for it laugh.gif
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this one... reddit also chaos....

IvanIvanovich macam cabut already.... with all them $$$
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post Mar 16 2016, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(Koki @ Mar 16 2016, 07:30 PM)
I reviewed before, and you probably saw it before brows.gif
Anyway, I just came back from Ultimate.Zone, holy sh#t that store is amazing. All Ducky, Poker, Razer keyboards just throw on the table, let you guys rape them.
Really nice store, recommend you guys to drop by and play around.
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but not many replacement keycaps set.... which is bad.... >.<
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post Mar 17 2016, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(DunkyKung @ Mar 17 2016, 10:19 PM)
hello.im new here..recently i bought a keyboard, but it seems the plastic on the spacebar is broken.. is there any sparepart sell online?or im doomed ..sad.gif

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http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/pro...nsert-2pcs.html

I not sure local sellers got or not.... hmm.gif
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post Mar 17 2016, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(DunkyKung @ Mar 17 2016, 10:47 PM)
im gonna try superglue it first.. cry.gif  cry.gif
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hmm... this is the only downfall of a costar stab i think....

apart from this and potential loose fit after repeating change of keycaps, i think it is the better stabs...
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QUOTE(Ronin_Amin @ Mar 19 2016, 10:31 PM)
Just to update. got a keyboard. Keycool 87 with cherry mx red. already enjoying my 1+ days with it biggrin.gif
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welcome to the a new world of mechanical addiction laugh.gif
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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Mar 20 2016, 12:34 AM)
as quoavadis said, poisonous train.
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yeap.... when you spend more $$ on keycaps or when the caps you buy are more expensive than your keyboards, you know you got an issue laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SticH @ Mar 20 2016, 12:47 AM)
wow didnt realize you're in lowyat! How many fugus you manage to snatch tongue.gif
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oh... you the one got set fugu mx and set bomb king mx? laugh.gif

i only got one set fugu mx but i am happy enough coz this is the first time i managed to win something via raffle tongue.gif


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QUOTE(SticH @ Mar 20 2016, 01:00 AM)
no that's not me, that's someone from korea I think, he got such luck  notworthy.gif
I won a set too, finally something after such period of drought! Really happy with the win  thumbup.gif
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you also won a set of mx fugus? thumbup.gif

we must cheers.gif
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QUOTE(dadudeneverabides @ Mar 20 2016, 01:00 AM)
Hahahahaa. What issue? wink.gif
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Addiction issue laugh.gif

btw bro, your lightsaver is bruce.gif

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QUOTE(SticH @ Mar 20 2016, 01:12 AM)
Yes  rclxm9.gif 

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hahahah.... now i just hope i didnt use up my whole year's worth of luck in this raffle alone laugh.gif
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@SticH , bro you got enter 2nd round???

What you got??

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post Mar 22 2016, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(KbkB @ Mar 22 2016, 12:53 AM)
My 6 year old Steelseries 7G some keys registering multiple input sometimes. Any advice? like opening the cherry keys & cleaning the contacts, or maybe swap the keys with some less used keys etc.
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7G is plate mounted, i dont think it is possible to open the switches without desoldering them hmm.gif

not so sure about the cleaning the contacts part, if the contacts required cleaning, most probably it is already oxidized already and would better have a switch replacement

QUOTE(Koki @ Mar 22 2016, 12:36 AM)
Guys I'm a little new to this keycap game, but I see that many of you guys here (and many others) prefer PBT over ABS.
Is it because of the durability of PBT from wear and tear (oil from finger)?
Also, PBT has a rough surface compared to ABS no?

Last question - advantages of PBT dye-sub?
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PBT > ABS in terms of legend longetivity (except doubleshot) as PBT is a harder plastic compared to ABS

Another one is the "textured" surface of the caps compared to ABS (smoother)

PBT dye-sub - again, advantage is legend longetivity as the dye is literally IN the plastic itself and the only way to wear the legend off is to shave the plastic, but only disadvantage is the color of the legend must be darker than the color of the caps (as to why please google up laugh.gif )
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QUOTE(Chryos1029 @ Mar 23 2016, 06:26 PM)
Guys, how's the novatouch tkl for a beginner's topre?
Is its' feeling similar to the those HHKB or realforce?
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you also planning to venture into Topre? laugh.gif

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