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post Mar 16 2021, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 16 2021, 10:44 AM)
Just found from Shopee there's no more stock for blue Hybrid Ceramic Wax, only the green version Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax. But youtube there comparison video seems blue version is better
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Better is because it is way too easier to apply, it is almost like spray wax. I also like the blue one than yellow. As the result shown in previous post, it lasts almost 3 months. Not too shabby for such a easier application.
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post Mar 17 2021, 01:00 AM

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Just now after evening rain managed to decon wash my car and proceed with ceramic coating. To recap I did Meguiar Ultimate Compound using hand applicator for past 2 days, managed to lift up most water mark and residue, tiring but I'm satisfied.

So when sunset, I brought out white LED battery-powered light to proceed the coating job, to my horror, under the white LED light I'm able to see the round circular light haze of my Ultimate Compound work! During daytime I didn't see it, but it was now visible circular pattern under LED light, omg. So I ignore it and proceed with coating job, luckily applying to coating able to masquerade those circular haze and making the paint looks glossy (black car).

Any idea what is the circular haze? It doesn't seems to be scratches, but sort of like compound residue?
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post Mar 17 2021, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 17 2021, 01:00 AM)
Just now after evening rain managed to decon wash my car and proceed with ceramic coating. To recap I did Meguiar Ultimate Compound using hand applicator for past 2 days, managed to lift up most water mark and residue, tiring but I'm satisfied.

So when sunset, I brought out white LED battery-powered light to proceed the coating job, to my horror, under the white LED light I'm able to see the round circular light haze of my Ultimate Compound work! During daytime I didn't see it, but it was now visible circular pattern under LED light, omg. So I ignore it and proceed with coating job, luckily applying to coating able to masquerade those circular haze and making the paint looks glossy (black car).

Any idea what is the circular haze? It doesn't seems to be scratches, but sort of like compound residue?
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https://youtu.be/XPHt1gjPJlk
Jump to 12.40, he says its normal to have some hazing n then u should do polishing..

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post Mar 17 2021, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(StevenL @ Mar 16 2021, 01:51 PM)
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Shocking reliability!
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considering the price, 1 more product to ignore lol
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post Mar 17 2021, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(woodentiger86 @ Mar 16 2021, 06:50 PM)
It still has some sheeting
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naw pretty dead. water sticks lol
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post Mar 17 2021, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 17 2021, 01:00 AM)
So when sunset, I brought out white LED battery-powered light to proceed the coating job, to my horror, under the white LED light I'm able to see the round circular light haze of my Ultimate Compound work! During daytime I didn't see it, but it was now visible circular pattern under LED light, omg. So I ignore it and proceed with coating job, luckily applying to coating able to masquerade those circular haze and making the paint looks glossy (black car).

Any idea what is the circular haze? It doesn't seems to be scratches, but sort of like compound residue?
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basic steps: rough paint/fresh paint from oven or repainting > sanding > compounding > polishing (and maybe glazing)
even sanding you aware that there's lower grit to higher grit sanding right? (not just car application)

light haze/marring etc from compounding.

that's why we advised to use ultimate polish lol
so... you'll have to close an eye as you've sealed in that imperfection lo sweat.gif
if able to mask/masquerade as you said, then good la, either the coating has fillers, and/or the viscosity is thin enough to just fill itself in the imperfections.
(reminds me of my 3M headlight coating process!)
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post Mar 17 2021, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 17 2021, 09:41 AM)
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Ya, years back I did sanding and respray my headlamp, been gone through those steps especially sanding 1000 > 1500 > 2000 grits. Took me a few days just for headlamp job.

Previously all the while I'm using Soft99 Metaclean one step polish only, didn't has this kind of haze issue, so could be Ultimate Compound rougher grit. This time uses Ultimate Compound because I realize my 1 year old coating looks very bad with scratches and water marks, reckon will be harder for Metaclean to lift those up. Ya Meg UC did well job eliminate most of that.

Meanwhile the paint respray shop did terrible job, over sprayed the paint (clear coat because non visible) to my other non-repair car door and one of the headlamp, making the surface so rough I can't lift up using hand applicator.

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post Mar 17 2021, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 17 2021, 09:56 AM)
Ya, years back I did sanding and respray my headlamp, been gone through those steps especially sanding 1000 > 1500 > 2000 grits. Took me a few days just for headlamp job.

Previously all the while I'm using Soft99 Metaclean one step polish only, didn't has this kind of haze issue, so could be Ultimate Compound rougher grit. This time uses Ultimate Compound because I realize my 1 year old coating looks very bad with scratches and water marks, reckon will be harder for Metaclean to lift those up. Ya Meg UC did well job eliminate most of that.
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yes you are correct that UC is indeed rougher grit.

since coating done ady, just maintain it until coating wears off thumbup.gif
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post Mar 17 2021, 02:11 PM

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wow lol
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post Mar 17 2021, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 17 2021, 02:11 PM)

wow lol
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Actually way too much products and too small test area for my liking.

But anyways, it is a good way to test many items at the same time.

That video you shared earlier on the TW Graphene Flex really made me reconsider graphene.

I might want to get the TW Ceramic Wax to apply as my new base coat then maintain with S&S.
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post Mar 17 2021, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(woodentiger86 @ Mar 17 2021, 02:52 PM)
Actually way too much products and too small test area for my liking.

But anyways, it is a good way to test many items at the same time.

That video you shared earlier on the TW Graphene Flex really made me reconsider graphene.

I might want to get the TW Ceramic Wax to apply as my new base coat then maintain with S&S.
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yeah good for us that dont have a free panel like that and so many products/money and time.

the video was from another forumer la... StevenL notworthy.gif

yeah 2 months for their top of the line graphene with such high price tag... very disappointing
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 17 2021, 02:54 PM)
yeah good for us that dont have a free panel like that and so many products/money and time.

the video was from another forumer la... StevenL notworthy.gif

yeah 2 months for their top of the line graphene with such high price tag... very disappointing
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Woops paiseh bro.

Sorry mixed up. Ish.

Anyhow, yes for the pricing, the durability isn't that impressive.
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post Mar 17 2021, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 17 2021, 02:11 PM)

wow lol
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Anyone tried IGL products?
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post Mar 17 2021, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(woodentiger86 @ Mar 17 2021, 03:08 PM)
Woops paiseh bro.

Sorry mixed up. Ish.

Anyhow, yes for the pricing, the durability isn't that impressive.
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np np

im really hoping to see durability tests on the new turtlewax 10 in 1 paste wax though laugh.gif
and/or perhaps a liquid version so i can easily use with my Rupes.

QUOTE(sonotme @ Mar 17 2021, 03:16 PM)
Anyone tried IGL products?
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not for me bro
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post Mar 17 2021, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(sonotme @ Mar 17 2021, 03:16 PM)
Anyone tried IGL products?
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What sort of IGL products you're looking at?

So far I've only tried Delete and PreCoat.

Their PreCoat is basically IPA with a nicer scent. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 17 2021, 04:49 PM

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So it rain less than 24 hours after coating.


I prefer water sheeting instead of beading, which leaves the water droplets for sun burning water mark. Is there any ceramic coating focus on water sheeting?
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Ok about 1 hour after rain stop, sloped surface already dried, no water droplets so I guess the surface is quite slick huh?
Still there are water droplets accumulating on middle of the roof, bonnet, and boot with less inclination level.


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QUOTE(woodentiger86 @ Mar 17 2021, 04:17 PM)
What sort of IGL products you're looking at?

So far I've only tried Delete and PreCoat.

Their PreCoat is basically IPA with a nicer scent. biggrin.gif
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I saw the video posted by quazacolt, showing the IGL premier still good after 6 months. Looking for promos for 4.4 shopee hehehe
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post Mar 18 2021, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 17 2021, 04:49 PM)
So it rain less than 24 hours after coating.
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I prefer water sheeting instead of beading, which leaves the water droplets for sun burning water mark. Is there any ceramic coating focus on water sheeting?

Ok about 1 hour after rain stop, sloped surface already dried, no water droplets so I guess the surface is quite slick huh?
Still there are water droplets accumulating on middle of the roof, bonnet, and boot with less inclination level.
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hate it when the lowyat forum like button doesn't work!
nice results bro thumbup.gif

to answer your question, look towards products from Sonax, they don't care about beading at all.

QUOTE(sonotme @ Mar 17 2021, 09:28 PM)
I saw the video posted by quazacolt, showing the IGL premier still good after 6 months. Looking for promos for 4.4 shopee hehehe
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parallel imported i assume? never heard of IGL until that video LOL

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post Mar 18 2021, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 18 2021, 12:51 AM)
hate it when the lowyat forum like button doesn't work!
nice results bro thumbup.gif

to answer your question, look towards products from Sonax, they don't care about beading at all.
parallel imported i assume? never heard of IGL until that video LOL
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Sonax products sure are pricey - heard from previous sifus here that it used to be cheaper under the previous distributor.

Like the Brilliant Shine Detailer - still costs RM150 even after 2 years! Gosh.

I did kepo their website earlier this year and saw they do have a lot of new products like ceramic range etc but it's not launched here. sweat.gif

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