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terence_nwb
post Mar 30 2016, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(karkit20 @ Mar 29 2016, 10:04 PM)
Hi sifus. Need your recommendation for 3.5k PC including monitor

[Budget] RM 3500

[Purpose] Rendering purposes and some light gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] -

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Vray, lumion, artlantis and revit

[Personal preferences] Core i7, SSD (120gb)

[Location] KL

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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 289
Corsair 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 296
Palit GTX750 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 479
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 209
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Bitfenix Nova - RM 149
BenQ GW2270 - RM 429

Total: RM 3521 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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post Mar 30 2016, 03:52 PM

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From beginning, I am fan of Xeon processor, but never know they already have another Xeon Skylake to match 6700 performance. So, is ~RM170 difference is worth the 0.2 Ghz? And I'm pretty sure this Xeon is compatible with 1151 socket.

Xeon E3 1230 V5 3.4-3.8Ghz RM1129
Core I7 6700 3.4 ~ 4.0 RM1295

Idealtech price.
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[Budget] RM4000

[Purpose] Gaming and light rendering

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]Photoshop and steam games

[Personal preferences] Something bang for the buck.. So would be best to get a quitation from an AMD and Intel build

[Location]N Sembilan

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post Mar 30 2016, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(radenoactive @ Mar 30 2016, 03:52 PM)
From beginning, I am fan of Xeon processor, but never know they already have another Xeon Skylake to match 6700 performance. So, is ~RM170 difference is worth the 0.2 Ghz? And I'm pretty sure this Xeon is compatible with 1151 socket.

Xeon E3 1230 V5 3.4-3.8Ghz  RM1129
Core I7 6700  3.4 ~ 4.0 RM1295

Idealtech price.
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It is compatible with LGA1151 socket but you need C232 chipset mobo to use it.

The cheapest C232 chipset mobo is more than RM 550 now.

i7 6700 + H110/B150 is much cheaper than Xeon + C232.
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post Mar 30 2016, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(HayateAyakasi8 @ Mar 30 2016, 03:55 PM)
[Budget] RM4000

[Purpose] Gaming and light rendering

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]Photoshop and steam games

[Personal preferences] Something bang for the buck.. So would be best to get a quitation from an AMD and Intel build

[Location]N Sembilan
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I will suggest Intel build for now only until next gen AMD CPU comes out in next few months, their current CPU lineup is too aged, not worth to invest anymore if your budget is healthy.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 773
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 403
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 148
Sapphire R9 390 8GB GDDR5 Nitro - RM 1549
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Seasonic S12II 620W - RM 303
Tecware Alpha Black - RM 219
BenQ GW2270 - RM 429

Total: RM 4039 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Add SSD when you have more money in the future.
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post Mar 30 2016, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 30 2016, 04:07 PM)
I will suggest Intel build for now only until next gen AMD CPU comes out in next few months, their current CPU lineup is too aged, not worth to invest anymore if your budget is healthy.

Intel Core i5 6400  - RM 773
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 403
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 148
Sapphire R9 390 8GB GDDR5 Nitro - RM 1549
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Seasonic S12II 620W - RM 303
Tecware Alpha Black - RM 219
BenQ GW2270 - RM 429

Total: RM 4039 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Add SSD when you have more money in the future.
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I forgot to add some details 😂 if i'm gonna get a nvidia shield K1. I need a Nvidia GPU. So any other suggestions ?

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post Mar 30 2016, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(HayateAyakasi8 @ Mar 30 2016, 05:07 PM)
I forgot to add some details 😂 if i'm gonna get a nvidia shield K1. I need a Nvidia GPU. So any other suggestions ?
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Just swap it to GTX970.
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post Mar 30 2016, 05:37 PM

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Hi everyone, Have you guys ever heard of the Patriot Blast 120gb SSD. i googled it and it says it is a low cost SSD.

has anyone ever you it? compare to other brand, it is okay?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 30 2016, 05:09 PM)
Just swap it to GTX970.
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LOL 😂 i also forgot. I need in itx case 😂 sorry bro
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post Mar 30 2016, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(imirshane @ Mar 30 2016, 05:37 PM)
Hi everyone, Have you guys ever heard of the Patriot Blast 120gb SSD. i googled it and it says it is a low cost SSD.

has anyone ever you it? compare to other brand, it is okay?
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It is not so famous in Malaysia and I haven't had chance to try it but you can swap to Kingston HyperX Fury instead, price is almost similar.
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post Mar 30 2016, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(HayateAyakasi8 @ Mar 30 2016, 07:26 PM)
LOL 😂 i also forgot. I need in itx case 😂 sorry bro
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Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 773
Gigabyte H170N-WiFi - RM 569
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 148
Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1397
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Seasonic S12II 620W - RM 303
CM Elite 130 - RM 178
BenQ GW2270 - RM 429

Total: RM 4012 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

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Hey everyone! Want to ask something here.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

I was wondering, to optimise the cooling and airflow, I bought the Noctua to fill in the empty gap.

So my first configuration is to have the AIO on top together with the Noctua. Front is intake, top & rear as exhaust.
Second configuration is to have the AIO at the rear, two CM fans on top and the remaining two fans in front. Intake is front, exhause is top and back.

Any thoughts?? Reason behind is that if I put a 140mm and a 120mm fan together, there would be a tiny gap between the fan thus causing some leak or interference on the airflow. Appreciate the replies!


edit: Have anyone tried using vape to check on the airflow? LOL.

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Hi guys,

[Budget]: TBD based on necessity

[Purpose]: Heavy Multitask - easily 40-50 tabs of website, 30-40 taskbars

[Monitor resolution]: Perhaps i will change to dual or tri-monitor setup (different budget to be used for this of course)

[Games & softwares that use frequently]: Well, loads of microsoft words, excels, chrome tabs, taskbars, PDF, and some messaging platforms.

[Personal preferences]: Current rig is sometimes a little too loud when i use too much resources. I know people always say i5 is enough but my current i5 feels lacking.

[Current Rig]:

Intel Core i5 2400
Intel DH67BL Mobo
16GB (8GB x 2) DDR3 Ram
GTX750 Ti 4GB
Crucial MX100 512GB SSD
Samsung Spinpoint 1TB HDD
Corsair HX650W

The above feels laggy to me, i honestly don't know why - is it the CPU's problem? Will changing to i7 make any difference?

Thanks.


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post Mar 31 2016, 02:25 AM

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Budget : RM 2,000

Purpose : Microsoft office, movies & long hours gaming, mostly online gaming like dota2, hearthstone, tree of savior. Graphics need to be at least above average without affecting gaming performance. Not much AAA games.

- Budget exclude monitor and other peripherals.
- Monitor run in 1080p
- Prefer to have 8gb ram.
- You might consider giving some extra allowance for the hardwares (such as slightly bigger PSU or slightly better MOBO to support future upgrade) as i most likely will upgrade the GPU/ram/cpu after 3 years time. I could have 200-300 extra budget for this if its reasonable.


Fyi, this rig is for my gamer gf. Thank you in advance sifus.
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post Mar 31 2016, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(kahtsin @ Mar 30 2016, 11:28 PM)
Hey everyone! Want to ask something here.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

I was wondering, to optimise the cooling and airflow, I bought the Noctua to fill in the empty gap.

So my first configuration is to have the AIO on top together with the Noctua. Front is intake, top & rear as exhaust.
Second configuration is to have the AIO at the rear, two CM fans on top and the remaining two fans in front. Intake is front, exhause is top and back.

Any thoughts?? Reason behind is that if I put a 140mm and a 120mm fan together, there would be a tiny gap between the fan thus causing some leak or interference on the airflow. Appreciate the replies!
edit: Have anyone tried using vape to check on the airflow? LOL.
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If the temperature is within acceptable range, then I don't think you need to bother the tiny gap or difference so much.

Front and bottom as intake & top and rear as exhaust should be able to keep the airflow good enough.
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post Mar 31 2016, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(Saladz @ Mar 30 2016, 11:40 PM)
Hi guys,

[Budget]: TBD based on necessity

[Purpose]: Heavy Multitask - easily 40-50 tabs of website, 30-40 taskbars

[Monitor resolution]: Perhaps i will change to dual or tri-monitor setup (different budget to be used for this of course)

[Games & softwares that use frequently]: Well, loads of microsoft words, excels, chrome tabs, taskbars, PDF, and some messaging platforms.

[Personal preferences]: Current rig is sometimes a little too loud when i use too much resources. I know people always say i5 is enough but my current i5 feels lacking.

[Current Rig]:

Intel Core i5 2400
Intel DH67BL Mobo
16GB (8GB x 2) DDR3 Ram
GTX750 Ti 4GB
Crucial MX100 512GB SSD
Samsung Spinpoint 1TB HDD
Corsair HX650W

The above feels laggy to me, i honestly don't know why - is it the CPU's problem? Will changing to i7 make any difference?

Thanks.
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Check task manager and observe the usage of your CPU and RAM, if both are almost hitting the limit then it is time to carry out some upgrades.
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post Mar 31 2016, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(Fabonacci @ Mar 31 2016, 02:25 AM)
Budget : RM 2,000

Purpose : Microsoft office, movies & long hours gaming, mostly online gaming like dota2, hearthstone, tree of savior. Graphics need to be at least above average without affecting gaming performance. Not much AAA games. 

- Budget exclude monitor and other peripherals.
- Monitor run in 1080p
- Prefer to have 8gb ram.
- You might consider giving some extra allowance for the hardwares (such as slightly bigger PSU or slightly better MOBO to support future upgrade) as i most likely will upgrade the GPU/ram/cpu after 3 years time. I could have 200-300 extra budget for this if its reasonable.
Fyi, this rig is for my gamer gf. Thank you in advance sifus.
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Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 496
Gigabyte H110M-S2PV (D4) - RM 310
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 148
Palit GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 StormX OC - RM 509
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha Black - RM 219

Total: RM 2085 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Upgradability of mobo depends on the many factors, if you are talking about future CPU upgrade, then it depends on the socket of future CPU, current it is LGA1151 which is used on Skylake CPU, we don't know whether Intel is going to reuse this socket in their next gen CPU or not so this is totally out of our control.

If you are referring to SLI/CF then you need Z170 mobo which is out of your budget now, same goes to NVMe SSD support.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 31 2016, 08:43 AM)
Check task manager and observe the usage of your CPU and RAM, if both are almost hitting the limit then it is time to carry out some upgrades.
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Physical Memory is below 50% most of the time.

But CPU Usage jumps a lot. Sometimes can be below 10% jump to over 80%. Is it heat issue? The lag issue i mentioned is like spikes.
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QUOTE(Saladz @ Mar 31 2016, 04:45 PM)
Physical Memory is below 50% most of the time.

But CPU Usage jumps a lot. Sometimes can be below 10% jump to over 80%. Is it heat issue? The lag issue i mentioned is like spikes.
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So RAM is enough for now.

Jumpy CPU usage is normal when you are using the PC, if your PC is idle and CPU usage is still within high usage range then you need to check which apps are causing this in process tab.

Check temperature of the CPU with 3rd party software, make sure power management mode is set to balanced/high performance instead of power saving mode.
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Intel Pentium Skylake G4400 Dual Core 3.3Ghz
Asrock B150M-HDV
Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Evo
FSP Hexa+ 550W
Intel 535 Series 120GB SSD
1TB Western Digital Blue
Armaggeddon Teratron T7
Acer LCD 27" K272HLBD LED Monitor
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Planning to get my first graphic card. Only play dota2 so far, low setting can get 60fps. What graphic can I get for max out (ultra setting) on dota 2. Not so sure about the budget.

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