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terence_nwb
post Mar 14 2016, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Mar 14 2016, 12:35 AM)
[Budget] RM2000

[Purpose] Rendering video

[Hardwares that will be re-use]

Samsung SSD 850 EVO 120gb
1GB Western Digital Green
Seasonic EVOII Power Supply 750w
Asus GTX 750Ti 2gb DDR5
Dell monitor u2414h

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Adobe Premiere

[Personal preferences]

Intel Core i7 6700 RM1294

GIGABYTE GA-Z170-HD3 RM594 or GIGABYTE GA-H170-HD3 RM486

Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2666Mhz CL15 (HX426C15FB/8) RM195

[Location] KL
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If you go with non Z170 mobo, you cannot overclock the RAM and it will downclock itself to 2133MHz even though you have a 2666MHz RAM.

But jumping from 2133MHz to 2666MHz doesn't bring significant improvements (mostly benchmark only), > 3000MHz is more preferred if you really keen on high speed RAM.


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post Mar 14 2016, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 14 2016, 12:01 AM)
Some rendering software and importing RAW images into PS will take advantage of the hyperthreading technology of i7 which reduce the time needed to finish the operation, changing to i5 will increase the time needed mostly, if you are ok with it then i5 is a great choice to save some money.
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1294 (change to i5)
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 403
Corsair 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 336
Sapphire R9 390 8GB GDDR5 Nitro - RM 1549
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 209
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 363
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 185

hi terence, thanks for your explanation.
if i change to i5, will it affect my gaming other than rendering?
if no, appreciate you can suggest a i5 series which is suitable for my usage. thanks!
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post Mar 14 2016, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Mar 14 2016, 12:42 AM)
noob question, is there some kind of  Y cable and plug those 2x 12V @ 18A rail into 1x output as parallel? so maybe it will become 12V @ 36A?

Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 363
Seasonic S12II-620 620W  - RM 303
Are these basically the same PSU?
with RM60 difference?

the difference i can spot are below, dont think it gives much value added
Seems like the modula EVO version has:
http://www.lelong.com.my/seasonic-m12ii-62...6-12-Sale-P.htm
- modular
- Gold plated terminals

Seems like the non EVO, non modular version has:
http://www.lelong.com.my/seasonic-s12ii-62...6-12-Sale-P.htm
- non-modular cables
- super high efficiency upto 87%
- double forward converter design
- soft mount rubber cushions
- all in one cable design
- patent easy swap connectors
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No need Y cable from external, the internal components of the PSU will take care of that.

They are basically the same, M comes with modular while S doesn't.


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post Mar 14 2016, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Mar 14 2016, 07:59 AM)
Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1294 (change to i5)
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 403
Corsair 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 336
Sapphire R9 390 8GB GDDR5 Nitro - RM 1549
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 209
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 363
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 185

hi terence, thanks for your explanation.
if i change to i5, will it affect my gaming other than rendering?
if no, appreciate you can suggest a i5 series which is suitable for my usage. thanks!
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Same theory as rendering, some games do use the extra threads to process the games which can improve the performance (frame rate etc.)

You can just change the i7 to i5 6500, other parts can remain the same.
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post Mar 14 2016, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 14 2016, 07:57 AM)
If you go with non Z170 mobo, you cannot overclock the RAM and it will downclock itself to 2133MHz even though you have a 2666MHz RAM.

But jumping from 2133MHz to 2666MHz doesn't bring significant improvements (mostly benchmark only), > 3000MHz is more preferred if you really keen on high speed RAM.
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So should i go for z170 board?
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post Mar 14 2016, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 14 2016, 07:54 AM)
New Skylake CPU and mobo are recommended to run DDR4 RAM which means you gonna need to change RAM too if you were to choose Skylake platform which is a better choice than the aged AMD platform for now.

What's your budget?
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yes, I m planning to change CPU, mobo, ram and also the casing. My budget is around rm 1200 - 1500 for those 3 and a cooler master k282 casing, so i need a mobo that supports 2 usb 3 at front and total of 6 usb at back

I am not particularly tight on budget, so I might raise my budget if its worth the price and i might add a SSD

Thank you
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post Mar 14 2016, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Mar 14 2016, 09:04 AM)
So should i go for z170 board?
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If you are getting Z170 just for the sake of overclocking the RAM (from 2133 to 2666), then it is not worth, performance gain is too little (bad price/performance ratio).


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post Mar 14 2016, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 14 2016, 09:12 AM)
If you are getting Z170 just for the sake of overclocking the RAM (from 2133 to 2666), then it is not worth, performance gain is too little (bad price/performance ratio).
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Ok, will take note about that.. Price for DDR4 2133mhz and 2666mhz not so much different.
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post Mar 14 2016, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(naruko85 @ Mar 14 2016, 09:07 AM)
yes, I m planning to change CPU, mobo, ram and also the casing. My budget is around rm 1200 - 1500 for those 3 and a cooler master k282 casing, so i need a mobo that supports 2 usb 3 at front and total of 6 usb at back

I am not particularly tight on budget, so I might raise my budget if its worth the price and  i might add a SSD

Thank you
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 837
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 486
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 168

Total: RM 1491 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 209
Samsung 750 EVO 120GB SSD - RM 236
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post Mar 14 2016, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 14 2016, 08:00 AM)
No need Y cable from external, the internal components of the PSU will take care of that.

They are basically the same, M comes with modular while S doesn't.
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Oh let me get this straight if a PSU has 2x cable 12V @ 18A each
and i got a gpu that needs say 25A, i can just plug in a single cable of 12v and it will deliver 25A provided i dont use the 2nd cable at all.

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post Mar 14 2016, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Mar 14 2016, 10:52 AM)
Oh let me get this straight if a PSU has 2x cable 12V @ 18A each
and i got a gpu that needs say 25A, i can just plug in a single cable of 12v and it will deliver 25A provided i dont use the 2nd cable at all.
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The rails are connected inside the components, you just need to use PCI-E 6+2 cable and plug into your GPU and it will work magically.
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post Mar 14 2016, 11:19 AM

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Should i go performance motherboard if run non K processor?
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post Mar 14 2016, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Mar 14 2016, 11:19 AM)
Should i go performance motherboard if run non K processor?
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There's no such thing as a performance motherboard. No motherboard improves the gaming performance.

For the motherboard, can go for the MSI B150M Bazooka D4, around RM399-419 and for the RAM, Corsair or Kingston Value RAM 1x8GB DDR4 2133MHz, should be around RM190-210..but since you render videos, would be better to go for 2 sticks of 8GB.

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post Mar 14 2016, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 14 2016, 11:33 AM)
There's no such thing as a performance motherboard. No motherboard improves the gaming performance.

For the motherboard, can go for the MSI B150M Bazooka D4, around RM399-419 and for the RAM, Corsair or Kingston Value RAM 1x8GB DDR4 2133MHz, should be around RM190-210..but since you render videos, would be better to go for 2 sticks of 8GB.
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I'm looking for atx motherboard.
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post Mar 14 2016, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Mar 14 2016, 11:37 AM)
I'm looking for atx motherboard.
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The Gigabyte ATX mobo (Z170 & H170) you listed earlier is good enough for daily use.

If you are looking for so-called "performance" mobo, then it depends on how you define "performance", but they don't really provide any extra/significant "performance" to the system.
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post Mar 14 2016, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 14 2016, 12:24 PM)
The Gigabyte ATX mobo (Z170 & H170) you listed earlier is good enough for daily use.

If you are looking for so-called "performance" mobo, then it depends on how you define "performance", but they don't really provide any extra/significant "performance" to the system.
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About ram, any significant difference performance if using 2133mhz or 2666mhz? Price not so much different.
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Hi guys, a friend of mine would like to spend some money on his gaming rig.
Can u guys please suggest the setup for him.

[BUDGET] RM 30K
[PERSONAL PREFERENCE] 4-monitor setup

Thanks in advance. notworthy.gif
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Hi all,

Is this build possible? planning to build a pc for CS:Go only..


[Budget] - RM 2000 - 2500

[Purpose] - mainly Play CS:GO, then surfing, youtube, light excel & words

[Hardwares that will be re-use] keyboard mouse mousepad

[Monitor resolution] - how much is the cheapest 120hz / 144hz monitor? (perhaps would require additional budget)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] CS:GO with average FPS >200

[Personal preferences] - prefer I5 skylake, future proof build perhaps

[Location] - KL


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post Mar 14 2016, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Mar 14 2016, 12:30 PM)
About ram, any significant difference performance if using 2133mhz or 2666mhz? Price not so much different.
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As mentioned earlier, performance gain from 2133 to 2666 is too small to notice in real life usage.

You can see the changes or improvements mostly when you conduct memory benchmark.
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post Mar 14 2016, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(budakbaik1310 @ Mar 14 2016, 12:37 PM)
Hi guys, a friend of mine would like to spend some money on his gaming rig.
Can u guys please suggest the setup for him.

[BUDGET] RM 30K
[PERSONAL PREFERENCE] 4-monitor setup

Thanks in advance.  notworthy.gif
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Intel Core i7 5930K - RM 2610
Asus X99 Deluxe - RM 2075
GSKill TridentZ 32GB (16GB x 2) DDR4 3200MHz RAM - RM 1399
Palit GTX980Ti 6GB GDDR5 Jetstream (x2) - RM 6198
Samsung 950 Pro 512GB M.2 PCI-E SSD - RM 1599
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Seasonic P-1050 - RM 1249
Corsair Hydro H110i V2 - RM 559
Corsair Graphite 780T - RM 899
Acer Predator XB271HU-IPS (x4) - RM 13196

Total: RM 30003 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

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