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post Jul 23 2010, 10:13 PM

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I am thinking to get the F12 especially the PWM version coz can chain link with another F12 PWM fan. Need to check my financial first. poison, poison... laugh.gif

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tried tighten up the fans screws. still vibrate, not much but I can feel it vibrating especially when I touch the side panel plus I can hear a distinct buzzing sound. not much but still a bit annoying. The source of these vibration is coming from top fans. Is it normal or something wrong with the fans? The fans I'm using now uses hydro bearing (maybe same as fluid dynamic bearing). I don't really mind the "air" sound just that buzzing sound and vibration that annoys me (maybe I'm too sensitive lol).

since you said GT/F12 are not suitable as intake fans, what kind of fans that are suitable for the task?
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post Jul 24 2010, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Jul 23 2010, 10:13 PM)
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I am thinking to get the F12 especially the PWM version coz can chain link with another F12 PWM fan. Need to check my financial first. poison, poison... laugh.gif

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tried tighten up the fans screws. still vibrate, not much but I can feel it vibrating especially when I touch the side panel plus I can hear a distinct buzzing sound. not much but still a bit annoying. The source of these vibration is coming from top fans. Is it normal or something wrong with the fans? The fans I'm using now uses hydro bearing (maybe same as fluid dynamic bearing). I don't really mind the "air" sound just that buzzing sound and vibration that annoys me (maybe I'm too sensitive lol).

since you said GT/F12 are not suitable as intake fans, what kind of fans that are suitable for the task?
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I think the buzzing sound is come from power supply if not mistake.ur using silverstone psu? some fan is not advice to put as horizontal layout,as it produce weird sound, once u change to horizontal, the sound gone..which fan generate vibrate, can you determine? top fan, front or rear? maybe u need adding something(paper) at the fan frame there to eliminate the vibrate sound. maybe sometime like this.http://www.lamptron.com/products/view/Rubber_Frame

regard the intake fans, GT fan is damm expensive, put at front is highly not recommend. (drive ferrari at kampung)
ppl say if want great airflow, get higher cfm fan where can bring more air to the casing, but it more likely generate more dust. F12 is ok due to the cost. if ur not much budget, get F12 if you dont want any blink blink things..if want blink blink fan, can get xigmatek xlf series. if rich yet, can try scythe S-FLEX series, or any high cfm fan.
But if you look for silent pc, then you can consider get 800rpm fan for front casing and high cfm at bottom + top casing to create negative airflow for your casing.

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post Jul 24 2010, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(shinzhizu @ Jul 24 2010, 08:45 AM)
I think the buzzing sound is come from power supply if not mistake.ur using silverstone psu? some fan is not advice to put as horizontal layout,as it produce weird sound, once u change to horizontal, the sound gone..which fan generate vibrate, can you determine? top fan, front or rear? maybe u need adding something(paper) at the fan frame there to eliminate the vibrate sound. maybe sometime like this.http://www.lamptron.com/products/view/Rubber_Frame

regard the intake fans, GT fan is damm expensive, put at front is highly not recommend. (drive ferrari at kampung)
ppl say if want great airflow, get higher cfm fan where can bring more air to the casing, but it more likely generate more dust. F12 is ok due to the cost. if ur not much budget, get F12 if you dont want any blink blink things..if want blink blink fan, can get xigmatek xlf series.  if rich yet, can try scythe S-FLEX series, or any high cfm fan.
But if you look for silent pc, then you can consider get 800rpm fan for front casing and high cfm at bottom + top casing to create negative airflow for your casing.
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I dun think the vibrations came from PSU. I'm using gigabyte odin GT btw and I touched the PSU while its 'on' yesterday and it doesn't cause the vibration. So does the bottom fan so I suspect it came from either one of the top fans (currently I'm using 3 deepcool xfan for that bling2 look, 2 at the top, 1 at the bottom.) did tried the rubber frame but it doesn't really work. I do have 2 sets of rubber screws though but to install it is really pain in the ass.

as for intake fans, currently I'm using a cm 140mm LED fan that came along with my cm690II and I like to keep it there until it dies & I use it to cool my hardisk. currently the F12 is on top of my list but I still consider other options.

I did notice that even if I add the bottom fan, the temps didn't drastically dropped. before this with deepcool ice blade pro, 1 intake fan and 3 exhaust fans the temp usually around 36-37 degrees when idle during hot days. after add another fan at the bottom it'll only dropped by 1 degree. since my cooler can only be oriented horizontally (cpu fan facing the top exhaust fan), a fan on 5.25 bay probably is not an option as it will probably interrupt the airflow.

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post Jul 24 2010, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Jul 24 2010, 05:45 PM)
I dun think the vibrations came from PSU. I'm using gigabyte odin GT btw and I touched the PSU while its 'on' yesterday and it doesn't  cause the vibration. So does the bottom fan so I suspect it came from  either one of the top fans (currently I'm using 3 deepcool xfan for that bling2 look, 2 at the top, 1 at the bottom.) did tried the rubber frame but it doesn't really work. I do have 2 sets of rubber screws though but to install it is really pain in the ass.

as for intake fans, currently I'm using a cm 140mm LED fan that came along with my cm690II and I like to keep it there until it dies & I use it to cool my hardisk. currently the F12 is on top of my list but I still consider other options.

I did notice that even if I add the bottom fan, the temps didn't drastically dropped. before this with deepcool ice blade pro, 1 intake fan and 3 exhaust fans the temp usually around 36-37 degrees when idle during hot days. after add another fan at the bottom it'll only dropped by 1 degree. since my cooler can only be oriented horizontally (cpu fan facing the top exhaust fan), a fan on 5.25 bay probably is not an option as it will probably interrupt the airflow.
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is it can change ur 140mm fan to 12mm fan? hmm.gif u mention deepcool fan.. i just remember my old pc using tat..90mm one..I do hear vibration sound and weird sound even i screw it properly last time.. doh.gif 5.25 bay i did try b4 and it is very worse (vantec)..the fan is noisy and it not long lasting.. doh.gif .

beside F12,
cooler master R4 (90cfm) - blink blink.. cheap
enermax everest or magma - good but $$
scythe s-flex, slipstream or gentle typhoon - good but $$
xigmatek XLF series - cheap

in order to reduce or drop casing temp, most efficient is take off the side panel..obviously drop 3-4 or 3-5 degree for me. and i had test with my armor junior casing and cosmos s.both drop around 5 degree..where even u change all fan inside, wont help reduce 5 degree.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(shinzhizu @ Jul 24 2010, 11:53 PM)
is it can change ur 140mm fan to 12mm fan? hmm.gif u mention deepcool fan.. i just remember my old pc using tat..90mm one..I do hear vibration sound and weird sound even i screw it properly last time.. doh.gif 5.25 bay i did try b4 and it is very worse (vantec)..the fan is noisy and it not long lasting.. doh.gif .

beside F12,
cooler master R4 (90cfm) - blink blink.. cheap
enermax everest or magma - good but $$
scythe s-flex, slipstream or gentle typhoon - good but $$
xigmatek XLF series - cheap

in order to reduce or drop casing temp, most efficient is take off the side panel..obviously drop 3-4 or 3-5 degree for me. and i had test with my armor junior casing and cosmos s.both drop around 5 degree..where even u change all fan inside, wont help reduce 5 degree.. doh.gif
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currently I am using 120mm ones as top fans. the 140mm front fan will be there until it dies. Of course I can change it to 120mm but it will be a hassle to do it. laugh.gif

now that u mention it, perhaps some of the deepcools got QC problems bcoz the bottom fan doesn't vibrate, the top ones did.

As for fans though, I shorlisted down the choices with either of these

F12- cost effective
gentle typhoon - nice but pricey, perhaps need fan controller also, but then will be more pricey... doh.gif

enermax are good but beside pricey, consume a quite some electricity too.

maybe it's insignificant but just for info lah, here's some simple calculation if you want to how many watts each of your fans consume.

ampere X rated voltage =watts

for example the deepcool x fan is rated at 0.2 amps, rated voltage 12V, and the result will be 2.4 watts.
so if u just happen to browse the manufacturer's website and just so happen they didn't tell you how many watts the fan consumes, that calculation might become handy.

I think I'm comfortable with the current temp right now since my room temp is around 30 degrees anyway. If I open the side panel, dust for sure will come.
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QUOTE(shinzhizu @ Jul 24 2010, 08:45 AM)
I think the buzzing sound is come from power supply if not mistake.ur using silverstone psu? some fan is not advice to put as horizontal layout,as it produce weird sound, once u change to horizontal, the sound gone..which fan generate vibrate, can you determine? top fan, front or rear? maybe u need adding something(paper) at the fan frame there to eliminate the vibrate sound. maybe sometime like this.http://www.lamptron.com/products/view/Rubber_Frame

regard the intake fans, GT fan is damm expensive, put at front is highly not recommend. (drive ferrari at kampung)
ppl say if want great airflow, get higher cfm fan where can bring more air to the casing, but it more likely generate more dust. F12 is ok due to the cost. if ur not much budget, get F12 if you dont want any blink blink things..if want blink blink fan, can get xigmatek xlf series.  if rich yet, can try scythe S-FLEX series, or any high cfm fan.
But if you look for silent pc, then you can consider get 800rpm fan for front casing and high cfm at bottom + top casing to create negative airflow for your casing.
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Xigmatek xlf series will better than cm r4?
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Looking for good 140mm fans without blingy LEDs or spasm-inducing dancing LEDs, etc.

Need to replace both of the top exhaust on my Lian Li casing.

I already have Scythe GTs and Arctic F12s, and they do best at what they are supposed to do, and I truly agree well with what a previous guy had said about the F12s.

Silent, good airflow, easily moddable (due to it being white, can spray paint) and most importantly cheap.

However, they do not have 140mm models and the mounting holes are only suitable for 140mm, not 120mm.

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QUOTE(Xiia0Ban @ Jul 25 2010, 10:51 AM)
Xigmatek xlf series will better than cm r4?
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i think xigmatek better..or anyone try b4? and i wonder how the led going on? is it the light will start to drop after few month..


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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Jul 25 2010, 10:14 AM)
currently I am using 120mm ones as top fans. the 140mm front fan will be there until it dies. Of course I can change it to 120mm but it will be a hassle to do it. laugh.gif

now that u mention it, perhaps some of the deepcools got QC problems bcoz the bottom fan doesn't vibrate, the top ones did.

As for fans though, I shorlisted down the choices with either of these

F12- cost effective
gentle typhoon -  nice but pricey, perhaps need fan controller also, but then will be more pricey... doh.gif

enermax are good but beside pricey, consume a quite some electricity too.

maybe it's insignificant but just for info lah, here's some simple calculation if you want to how many watts each of your fans consume.

ampere X rated voltage =watts

for example the deepcool x fan is rated at 0.2 amps,  rated voltage 12V, and the result will be 2.4 watts.
so if u just happen to browse the manufacturer's website and just so happen they didn't tell you how many watts the fan consumes, that calculation might become handy.

I think I'm comfortable with the current temp right now since my room temp is around 30 degrees anyway. If I open the side panel, dust for sure will come.
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.fan like sanyo denki or panaflo cant put on certain mobo, and need fan controller. 1 fan consumer 7-8watt.. rclxub.gif
please do let me know how install 12mm fan on 140mm front fan..coz i planning do the same thing like u on my 690 plus II..


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QUOTE(Top-Gun @ Jul 25 2010, 11:00 AM)
Looking for good 140mm fans without blingy LEDs or spasm-inducing dancing LEDs, etc.

Need to replace both of the top exhaust on my Lian Li casing.

I already have Scythe GTs and Arctic F12s, and they do best at what they are supposed to do, and I truly agree well with what a previous guy had said about the F12s.

Silent, good airflow, easily moddable (due to it being white, can spray paint) and most importantly cheap.

However, they do not have 140mm models and the mounting holes are only suitable for 140mm, not 120mm.

Cheers
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ya.. i start hate blinking things..why dont have F14..if not, problem already solved..

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QUOTE(Xiia0Ban @ Jul 25 2010, 10:51 AM)
Xigmatek xlf series will better than cm r4?
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I did tried the xlf before. Its decent, good airflow but definately not one of the quiet ones, I mean the 'air' sound that is.

QUOTE(Top-Gun @ Jul 25 2010, 11:00 AM)
Looking for good 140mm fans without blingy LEDs or spasm-inducing dancing LEDs, etc.

Need to replace both of the top exhaust on my Lian Li casing.

I already have Scythe GTs and Arctic F12s, and they do best at what they are supposed to do, and I truly agree well with what a previous guy had said about the F12s.

Silent, good airflow, easily moddable (due to it being white, can spray paint) and most importantly cheap.

However, they do not have 140mm models and the mounting holes are only suitable for 140mm, not 120mm.

Cheers
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tough luck, the 140mm ones that I know without LED's are the black cm's and and thermaltake but those uses sleeve bearings. xigmatek also got 140mm ones but that one got LED's.

I wish someone can bring in this:

Thermalright 140mm fan

look nice.

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xigmatek use sleeve bearings oso if im not mistaken....
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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Jul 25 2010, 01:35 PM)
I did tried the xlf before. Its decent, good airflow but definately not one of  the quiet ones, I mean the 'air' sound that is.
tough luck, the 140mm ones that I know without LED's are the black cm's and and thermaltake but those uses sleeve bearings. xigmatek also got 140mm ones but that one got LED's.

I wish someone can bring in this:

Thermalright 140mm fan

look nice.
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The thing is, the casing can be modded to use the 120mm F12s, but then the mounting system is built in such a way that you can just slot in 140mm fans and it's very easy to do so.. don't wanna spoil that.

If all comes to nothing, back to F12 I go! (Build a plate to still use the 140mm mounting system)

PS: I think the Thermalright uses something called "Liquid bearings" so maybe not suitable for horizontal placement?
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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Jul 25 2010, 01:35 PM)
I did tried the xlf before. Its decent, good airflow but definately not one of  the quiet ones, I mean the 'air' sound that is.

So anyone can recommend some bling bling + high airflow+ quiet fan..
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QUOTE(Xiia0Ban @ Jul 25 2010, 02:14 PM)
So anyone can recommend some bling bling + high airflow+ quiet fan..
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Normally those good static pressure/high cfm fans are not bling bling smile.gif Only the normal fans would have LED's and bling factor tongue.gif
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jul 25 2010, 08:18 PM)
Normally those good static pressure/high cfm fans are not bling bling smile.gif Only the normal fans would have LED's and bling factor tongue.gif
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But is there any bling bling fan to recommend me?
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QUOTE(Xiia0Ban @ Jul 25 2010, 08:44 PM)
But is there any bling bling fan to recommend me?
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If you just want fans that has LED's without looking at the air flow then you can just go ahead and buy whatever you can find smile.gif Normally people are picky because they want good fans, something that gives them reasonable airflow, etc.
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yeah and also quiet...
it gonna bomb my head soon
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which brand of fan best performance for
intake :
outake :
as long as the fan hav performance , noisy is not the matter...
coz i need 2 open 24/7
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Any suggestions for red 140mm red neon led?
If there's any?
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QUOTE(charsiewpao @ Aug 8 2010, 02:04 AM)
which brand of fan best performance for
intake :
outake :
as long as the fan hav performance , noisy is not the matter...
coz i need 2 open 24/7
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For both intake and exhasust:

1) SilverStone FM123 or

2) SilverStone FM121 or

3) Cooler Master Excalibur

Pressure above 3.00 mmh20 & flow rate (volume rate) more than 80 CFM.

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QUOTE(Pis @ Aug 9 2010, 12:01 AM)
For both intake and exhasust:

1) SilverStone FM123 or

2) SilverStone FM121 or

3) Cooler Master Excalibur

Pressure above 3.00 mmh20 & flow rate (volume rate) more than 80 CFM.
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quite interested wif the FM123 n excalibur...
and i wan 2 ask, my fren recommended me ac f12 fan,how was the performance ?

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