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post May 12 2008, 11:48 PM

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I seriously doubted the 90cfm @ 19dB in the beginning because if it's for real, this fan is even better than the expensive Scythe fans. Anyway, it has been cleared now by the review and it isn't 90cfm in fact smile.gif
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post May 13 2008, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(chyu89 @ May 13 2008, 04:07 AM)
However it still a good looking fan duh..got the stylish look.
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Stylish looks with literally no air would give us just as much problems biggrin.gif
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post May 14 2008, 01:31 AM

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I think the Scythe fans are pretty good and I wanted to bulk some but no one seems to be interested biggrin.gif
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post May 15 2008, 02:36 AM

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Sorry, there's too many to quote so I'll just reply/respond to everyone with regards to the Scythe fans biggrin.gif I can bulk them over from US for RM65 each. I'm not sure if that is cheap but I find the price is alright.
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post May 15 2008, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(hypermax @ May 15 2008, 11:03 AM)
RM65 sounds great. However, i am more interested in Yate Loon, as it is cheaper.  smile.gif
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Cooler Master is even cheaper laugh.gif Well, what we pay is what we get smile.gif
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post Jul 8 2010, 11:38 AM

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Personally I've tried many different fans and the Arctic F12 are pretty good. High static pressure, FDB bearing, low noise and cheap biggrin.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1369109

People that have tried would surely know that it's worth the money.
Edit: I added a comparison diagram from a review smile.gif

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post Jul 23 2010, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Jul 23 2010, 12:32 AM)
want to ask, does these fans vibrate or producing some buzzing sound? what kind of noise does these fans generated?

currently I have some problems with my case fan. they produce a kind of buzzing sound and my casing vibrates a bit along with it and its kinda annoying. do you guys have some solutions for this? does replacing the screws with rubber ones helps? icon_question.gif
The fans are literally silent and doesn't vibrate much. It's a very good fan and really worth the money smile.gif If you buy those cheap fans it'll vibrate and the sound will still be there because it might be coming from the bearing. The Arctic F12 uses Fluid Dynamic Bearing and at RM30, it's really CHEAP! biggrin.gif
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post Jul 25 2010, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Xiia0Ban @ Jul 25 2010, 02:14 PM)
So anyone can recommend some bling bling + high airflow+ quiet fan..
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Normally those good static pressure/high cfm fans are not bling bling smile.gif Only the normal fans would have LED's and bling factor tongue.gif
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post Jul 25 2010, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(Xiia0Ban @ Jul 25 2010, 08:44 PM)
But is there any bling bling fan to recommend me?
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If you just want fans that has LED's without looking at the air flow then you can just go ahead and buy whatever you can find smile.gif Normally people are picky because they want good fans, something that gives them reasonable airflow, etc.
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post Aug 9 2010, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Pis @ Aug 9 2010, 09:17 AM)
Which model? The highest rate for the air flow for arctic 12 series is 57 CFM only, the difference is too huge, I don't know about the pressure, well, based from the CFM, I don't think arctic series can beat all fans above as I stated...
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In year 1999, cfm is the most important thing in fans. Today, we talk about higher static pressure (not cfm). If a fan has high static pressure and low cfm, it's silent and works literally just as well so why go for fans which offers noise polution? smile.gif Many people still don't understand and the Arctic is on par with Typhoon AP-15. The Silverstone fans these days are far behind in the league.

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post Aug 9 2010, 12:02 PM

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Impressive for a 1C difference isn't it? smile.gif A few questions:

1. The price factor, how much does it cost?
2. The sound level, is it silent like AP-15 and F12?
3. Mounting mechanism, is it compatible and able to mount in cases/HSF easily?
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post Aug 9 2010, 12:15 PM

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Well yes, if someone can live with 60dB per fan these days then Delta would be a good choice but these fans are really fans of the past biggrin.gif Plus, it's inaccurate to say performance is always based on cfm smile.gif In certain scenarios like radiator and HSF fans, static pressure is more important. Ideally, we want to get a good balance between the airflow VS noise level.

Extra 20dB per fan noise for 1C-2C difference is not worth it in my opinion.
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post Aug 9 2010, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(Pis @ Aug 9 2010, 12:32 PM)
U are right clawhammer smile.gif

But I just want to know, what is the exact value of pressure in mmh20 for acrtic fans?
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You have to email Arctic Cooling for absolute and accurate technical details like these if required smile.gif For me it is simple, I go around researching and looking for a good product that gives value for money. My intention is to bring the good stuffs for the community at a cheap/reasonable price. If I'm a terrible person, I would've brought in Noise Blocker and start claiming they were good but fact is, it's totally not worth to spend RM90-100 for that fan laugh.gif
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post Oct 3 2010, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Oct 1 2010, 11:07 PM)
Scythe fans, the are quite cheap imho, like this one http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/acc/026/...5sl_detail.html
Not Gentle Typhoon and the S-FLEX series fans, they use better bearing and last longer.
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If you don't mind your PC to sound like jet engine then go ahead and get the Slipstream smile.gif Even the S-Flex are noisy. The only fans that are NOT noisy is Gentle Typhoon but it's really expensive. At the same time, you can purchase Arctic F12 fans which does the same job 1 times cheaper (RM30 each only) smile.gif
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QUOTE(Racerx @ Oct 9 2010, 02:26 AM)
guys,i wanna ask something,how does the AC F12 compared to the Xigmatek 120MM fans,are they significantly less noisy?How about the airflow?


Added on October 9, 2010, 2:27 ambtw,both F12 and F12 pro use Fluid Dynamic Bearing,right?
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Xigmatek fans are better if you want cosmetics biggrin.gif If you want a proper air flow fan that does the job and last long then Arctic F12. I've tested with my GT, no big deal and price is 1 fold cheaper.
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post Dec 14 2010, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(xngjn @ Dec 14 2010, 11:02 AM)
the only different between this 2 is only the " Patented vibration absorption"? is that important?
It's not important but another good to have feature, that's it smile.gif Plus if you go for F12 PRO, you can only mount it on top or rear of the case because of the airflow orientation.
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post Mar 11 2011, 03:53 AM

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In case some of you are wondering, I will have brand new Arctic F12 fans coming smile.gif New batch and these are the fans you would like to have. It is exceptionally silent, focused airflow with great static pressure. More details can be found here:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1369109
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post Apr 8 2011, 01:31 AM

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F12 FTW! biggrin.gif Anyone wants some please feel free to PM me. The more you buy, the better offer you get laugh.gif


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post May 9 2011, 03:46 PM

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Many people don't understand what PWM is all about smile.gif PWM means it only spins fast when the temp is high. That's the reason standard F12's are better because it's always running at full speed (it's also silent) so you don't have to wait for the whole thing to heat up before running at full speed.
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post May 22 2011, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(881118 @ May 20 2011, 02:58 AM)
i just tested artic f12, xigmatek xlf 120mm, and my old vizo starlet 120mm

side by side, use hand to feel

i feel the vizo starlet airflow is much higher than the f12 n xigmatek
if (i can much stronger wind blowing at my hand)
if vizo is 100%, den f12 is around 70% while the xigmatek is 30%

i dunno about the static pressure thing, but i m totally shocked with this result
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I can say you have good hands which are able to scientifically test fans just by using bare hands without tools smile.gif The CIA or FBI should hire people like you which have such fabulous skills. The other thing you forget is about the noise level. Obviously there are fans which have higher airflow than the F12 but this also means the fan is producing more noise and probably higher vibration too. The law of physics apply, there's no such thing as a silent fan with high static pressure and superb 100cfm airflow. If airflow is what you want then please buy a Delta 180cfm-200cfm fan. When you compare fans and when people say performance, it means:

1. Noise Level
2. Airflow
3. Static Pressure

Did you take into account all these factors before feeling "shocked"? A proper reviewer comparing fans would also use proper tools to justify their claims scientifically.

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