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post Dec 28 2009, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Dec 28 2009, 09:48 PM)
naah...should be fine...most cases are designed that way and have been serving well for years...i actually have a couple of rigs like that in the office.

the PSU fan will also help to suck out hot air being expelled by the processor fan
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Okie...i was just a little more concern because I know in engineering when there are 2 water pumps (1 as standby) connecting next to each other, if two pumps were switched on together at the same time, water is not pumped instead of pumping faster because of the vacuum created by the 2 pumps running simultaneously.

Perhaps that was water in the piping where air in the casing is not. biggrin.gif

Thanks for your extremely fast respond. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 29 2009, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Dec 24 2009, 07:43 PM)
positive pressure = intake CFM is MORE than exhaust CFM

negative pressure = intake cfm is LESS than exhaust CFM

points regarding positive pressure
1/ dust is not sucked into the case through the small nooks and crannies because air is going out of them.
2/ controlled dust intake with the use or good filters. this however, does not eliminate dust in the case... there will always be dust.

points regarding negative pressure
1/ air is sucked in through the nooks and crannies, and this brings dust along which means lesser control of dust intake.
2/ hot air is easily and quickly expelled out of the case, usually resulting in better overall temps.
fan RPM does not determine CFM.

so with that cleared....u need to take note of the following..

1/ aside from ur rear exhaust fan, keep in mind that ur PSU also acts as an exhaust. also, if ur GC is the type that exhausts through the back, u need to take that into account as well.

and with ur WC setup that ur planning, if ur putting the rad on top of the case, and ur gonna put the fan to blow air out, ur gonna have to add that as well.

2/ if a fan has 100cfm, take note that filters, and whatever else that blocks its airflow will reduce the cfm as well.

now...combining total CFM for both intake and exhaust each is gonna be tough. considering u have things like fangrill, filters, hdd cage, rad, bla bla bla blocking the fans airflow and reducing the CFM to an unknown amount.

so the best u can do, is forget it. seriously. temps tend to be better in a negative airflow case. also, just use all the fan slots with what theyre designed for (intake/exhaust). plus, getting positive pressure in a case is not easy.

at best, u can use low cfm fans for all the fans that are acting as exhaust and a much higher cfm fan for intakes (keeping in mind that CFM will be reduced due to blockage)
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Damn that makes sense hmm.gif I shoulda planned this earlier on. Like there was a window side panel with 2 x 120mm fans in the sides. I thought i had sufficient cooling so i didn't need them. What i didn't think of then was regarding positive and negative pressure. So the 2 extra side fans for intake would have helped with creating sufficient positive pressure.

Oh well, guess i will need to be more diligent with cleaning my case and room from time to time shocking.gif


My old case i noticed buildup of dust in the crooks and crannies of the case. Also the psu and exhaust fan have lots of dust on them :/ so i know what to expect *shudder ohmy.gif


Anyway where can i get a blower in malaysia to use for cleaning any idea? icon_question.gif

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post Dec 29 2009, 02:08 AM

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can of compressed air would good...

also a paintbrush...
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post Dec 31 2009, 12:49 PM

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Sorry may i ask, how exactly do you connect 3 fans to 1 channel for a fan controller?

What is the optimal way of doing it doh.gif

My Lamptron FC-5 can support 30 watts.


So i want to hook up 3 fans to 1 channel. So turning the knob changes speed for all 3 to the same RPM. 1 sensor will be used for that 1 channel.


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post Dec 31 2009, 01:32 PM

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assuming fan the plug on the controller is a 3 pin male....

then ur gonna need a 3pin female -> 3x3pin male splitter...

dont know where u can find such a thing...but u can always make it urself..parts can be purchased at electrical spare parts shop like jalan pasar or ss2.

soldering may be required.
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post Jan 1 2010, 08:48 PM

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ouch.


Oh by the way any 140mm fans worth getting?? I don't know if my Lian Li 140mm stock fans are good, but i know they are dual bearing about 1000RPM doh.gif

I found some 140mm fans

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Also seems there 2 new 140mm fans by Noise blocker

NB-BlackSilentFan XK1 (140mm)
NB-BlackSilentFan XK2 (140mm)
http://www.noiseblocker.de/en/produktmeta_luefter.php


The XK2 is 1100 RPM with roughly 50.07 CFM and 19.5 dB/A



Any idea if the new NBs are good?


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post Jan 2 2010, 07:31 PM

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Hi guys, im currently DIY on my casing and building a new rig. Have some question related to case fan here.
My planning is, 2x80mm + 1x120mm fan as intake and 1x120mm + PSU 140mm + ATI 5850 GC stock fan as exhaust. I will OC my pc sometimes and will use xigmatek dark knight as cpu cooler. All case fan will be xigmatek...
Hows you guys opinion, good to go or not?
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QUOTE(mpowerwind @ Jan 2 2010, 07:31 PM)
Hi guys, im currently DIY on my casing and building a new rig. Have some question related to case fan here.
My planning is, 2x80mm + 1x120mm fan as intake and 1x120mm + PSU 140mm + ATI 5850 GC stock fan as exhaust. I will OC my pc sometimes and will use xigmatek dark knight as cpu cooler. All case fan will be xigmatek...
Hows you guys opinion, good to go or not?
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Should be like this:

1) At the sides, bottom, and the front - intake

2) At the rear and top - exhaust

More intake than exhaust - positive air pressure

More exhaust than intake - negative air pressure.

Positive air pressure better than exhaust, usually, depends...




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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 1 2010, 08:48 PM)
Also seems there 2 new 140mm fans by Noise blocker

NB-BlackSilentFan XK1 (140mm)
NB-BlackSilentFan XK2 (140mm)
http://www.noiseblocker.de/en/produktmeta_luefter.php
The XK2 is 1100 RPM with roughly 50.07 CFM and 19.5 dB/A
Any idea if the new NBs are good?
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NB fans are supposedly the best fans out there at the moment, even if they are not the multi-frame models. The Lian Li stock fans are actually not bad. They probably come from the same oem manufacturer as some other brands, as the market for 140mm fans is still in its infancy. Most are using the 11-blade design such as the more recent Lian-Li fans, Xigmatek Crystal and Thermalright X-Silent.


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Hello guys...Imma new at this section...after reading all explanations and what not....make my head pusing2 la....

Currently use Thermaltake V3 Black Ed....My fans are:
1 at front (intake)
1 at bottom (intake)
1 at side (intake)

I use Delta FFB1212EHE (@ 5V) on my Xigmatek HDT S1283 (Red Scorpion) facing up instead of back...so, do what are you guys' opinion on this setup?

Do I need to add more fan (exhaust at rear or/and top?)

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hi, new in this forum interested to mod my case. Any advice.
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post Jan 28 2010, 04:48 PM

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Antec tricool..any reviews?
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QUOTE(aBg_rOnGak @ Jan 20 2010, 05:12 PM)
Hello guys...Imma new at this section...after reading all explanations and what not....make my head pusing2 la....

Currently use Thermaltake V3 Black Ed....My fans are:
1 at front (intake)
1 at bottom (intake)
1 at side (intake)

I use Delta FFB1212EHE (@ 5V) on my Xigmatek HDT S1283 (Red Scorpion) facing up instead of back...so, do what are you guys' opinion on this setup?

Do I need to add more fan (exhaust at rear or/and top?)
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add top exhausts.... itll help to blow out the hot air from the CPU HSF instead of it being recycled...

also, might as well get rid of the FFB.....if at 5v better to use stock fan and plug in to the mobo...then at least mobo can control and monitor fan speed...

somemore FFB has such a huge center dead zone due to the huge motor that the center part of ur hsf is prlly not getting any air....and in that orientation, itll ease the burden on the proc as well with a lighter fan.

ill probably put the FFB @ 7 or 5v on the side panel instead for a more focused and directed air flow...which is one of the main advantage of the blades..on the hsf, its so close to the fins that the blades dont really do much.


and at anything lower than 12v, the FFB aint really stable and can "wobble" at times...
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post Feb 7 2010, 03:49 AM

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noob question here. can dead fan be revive back? my gpu fan already dead. if put oil in the fan, can it run back as usual?
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QUOTE(topazzatale @ Feb 7 2010, 04:49 AM)
noob question here. can dead fan be revive back? my gpu fan already dead. if put oil in the fan, can it run back as usual?
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u try to open up the fan and spray some WD-40 on the bearing, air blow dry and apply some good quality lubrication oil on it.
if it's still spinning after apply wd40, then there is a chance to save the fan.
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post Feb 27 2010, 11:47 AM

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hi guys, wanna knw about my CM690.
if i wan to put a fan at the top position(above cpu HSF), it should be intake or exhausts??
and for bottom, should i get another 1? and its in or out?
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post Feb 27 2010, 12:09 PM

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top & rear always exhausts
front, side, bottom always intake smile.gif
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post Feb 27 2010, 12:20 PM

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okok...thx for the advise.
i will go get the fan now smile.gif


Added on February 27, 2010, 5:51 pmerm guy, if a exhaust fan and another exhaust fan locate near to each others, thy will start making some kind of noise??? i'm using hyper 212 plus now, my hyper have 2 fan, and after assemble, my hyper exhaust fan and my casing exhaust fan is so near, about 8-9cm.


Added on February 27, 2010, 6:26 pmsry, 1 more question sad.gif
how to control my cooler fan spd its running too fast...9k+ rpm(my temp 40 only but the fan still so fast -.-)

This post has been edited by LOOOOOOL: Feb 27 2010, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(LOOOOOOL @ Feb 27 2010, 12:20 PM)
okok...thx for the advise.
i will go get the fan now smile.gif


Added on February 27, 2010, 5:51 pmerm guy, if a exhaust fan and another exhaust fan locate near to each others, thy will start making some kind of noise??? i'm using hyper 212 plus now, my hyper have 2 fan, and after assemble, my hyper exhaust fan and my casing exhaust fan is so near, about 8-9cm.


Added on February 27, 2010, 6:26 pmsry, 1 more question sad.gif
how to control my cooler fan spd its running too fast...9k+ rpm(my temp 40 only but the fan still so fast -.-)
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Smart fan...

You can buy a fan controller. laugh.gif
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post Mar 12 2010, 02:31 AM

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Hi all pros, I think someone has posted this many times, but this thread got 80+ pages and I don't know where can I find my answer, so I will just give it a shot here.

I have a new ATCS840 Cooler Master casing, there is one 24cm Fan running very slow ( around 600rpm only , another one is running at a normal speed of 1000rpm ), If I remove the side panel, the rpm increased from 600 to 800+, which is very weird ( maybe it is due to air flow ).

I plan to change 2 24cm fans to 3 12cm fans on top. So I would like to have recommendation on which fan is nicer, in terms of air flow and noise, of course I will be getting fan controller, but the market got various type of fan controller, I would like to find those digital panel fan controller. Anyone can give suggestion for fan and fan controller? Cheers notworthy.gif

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