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 [WTA] VW Passat CC 1.8TSI, need opinion & comments

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post Feb 16 2016, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(Trrienty @ Feb 16 2016, 12:48 PM)
High five bro! Just did the same thing, ditch my golf tsi for Mazda 3
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while some may thought that vw golf to mazda 3 is a downgrade, to me its an upgrade. however, customer service of mazda isnt that great yet.. only if honda sells Civic hatchback here in malaysia..
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post Feb 16 2016, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Feb 16 2016, 01:56 PM)
mind sharing the price that you got for a pre reg jetta?
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Now getting new is much cheaper. I bought on Juli 2014. No jetta sport at that time.. 116k and 119k otr
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post Feb 16 2016, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Trrienty @ Feb 16 2016, 12:48 PM)
High five bro! Just did the same thing, ditch my golf tsi for Mazda 3
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What do u feel after drive twincharger engine and now change to NA engine??

Im using jetta now. If I want to upgrade, im going for gti or any other conti car. I think if drive a Na car for sure not satisfy.
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QUOTE(ssyy @ Feb 15 2016, 04:48 PM)
Hi, a colleague of mine wants to sell his VW Passat CC & offered me quite interesting price. However, I am worried about several things since there has been issues with VW especially its DSG & TSI engine.

The car is year 2013, mileage around 50,000 kms. Got few years warranty left. Outlook is great, just like a new car. Owner claimed that the car is running good without any problem. It's a 1.8 TSI model with 7 speed DSG.

I read from many forums, some said only 1.4 TSI + DSG is problematic but not the 1.8 TSI with DSG. Some said the previous version of Passat CC with 2.0 is better than the 1.8TSI. Not sure how far this is true. any comments?
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About the warranty, I remember they offer 5 years that time, first 2 years are by factory, the rest are by insurance. The warranty claim by insurance is a pain in the back, it is something like an accident claim, you will need adjuster to evaluate it. The process take time and might not able to claim full. Anyway you should check to VW MY, I long time didn't go back to them.
Go check the service booklet, see if the service is done within 15,000km each time. There are cases warranty claim rejected because car was service over the mileage. Also see what is the thing change and complain. If there is complain of gearbox , at least make sure it been ratified before you buy.
As long as it is dry clutch 7 speed DSG DQ200, it is the one received the most complain. Polo tsi & gti, golf tsi, Passat 1.8 are the few models using It.
I have to say vw dsg do give a very good feeling when you are having a spirited run, the up/down shift is like a perfect shift all the time. No lagging and right on the power.
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post Feb 16 2016, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Feb 16 2016, 12:44 PM)
I don't think Peugeot or Ford will give a more reliable ride than a VW, generally speaking. The Mondeo is quite uncommon so the fear is more of spare parts availability.
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I dont think spare parts is scarce especially if u service at the centre..if outside, no comment..but if u have enough money, why run from service at centre..cars will always be in tip top condition provided the cars are not factory defects.
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QUOTE(theanswer @ Feb 16 2016, 03:10 PM)
if want ease of mind..please not this car. my dad just collected his car from sc..3 weeks they did nothing to address the engine check sign issue.  sweat.gif
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Aiyo..baru planning to get this cars later..engine check means something dangerous or just a sign(nothing serious)?..
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post Feb 16 2016, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(juan87 @ Feb 16 2016, 04:03 PM)
while some may thought that vw golf to mazda 3 is a downgrade, to me its an upgrade. however, customer service of mazda isnt that great yet.. only if honda sells Civic hatchback here in malaysia..
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Well people judge upgrade or downgrade based on the price of car in Malaysia. Golf/Jetta is actually the same category with Mazda 3/civic/altis at oversea, just Malaysia jack up the price to be premium c seg. Yes Mazda need to improve their customer service but VW customer service isn't any better lol
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Feb 16 2016, 04:25 PM)
What do u feel after drive twincharger engine and now change to NA engine??

Im using jetta now. If I want to upgrade, im going for gti or any other conti car. I think if drive a Na car for sure not satisfy.
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For sure a turbo/super charger/twin charge engine is more excited & fun than a NA but I rather trade it for a realiable NA engine.

I have also thought of changing to other conti car ie 3 series or c class but I really had the phobia of my car break down anytime and keep in workshop for weeks and left me transport-less. That's really pain in arse as I have only 1 car
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QUOTE(ssyy @ Feb 16 2016, 02:55 PM)
tried the car today. transmission feels good. driving feels a little bit laggy perhaps due to the 18" wheels? all gadgets & gizmos working perfectly tho.. still deciding whether to proceed or not  hmm.gif

this one he is letting go slightly above 100k which is relatively cheaper compared to used & pre-owned market. even the discounted unregistered stocks r still selling at 180k-200k
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if im correct the gearbox can "learn" how a person drive. usually if the driver take it slow and steady, the gearbox will try to be as fuel efficient as possible. try trashing the car for a few times. i found that after i drove, the gearbox response is quicker. since cc got paddle shift try kicking a few gears down before flooring it.

advise you send to outside sc for service and maintenance. takes forever for vw sc to change parts, and charges kaw kaw for it. im looking for outside sc for my next service too. if its under warranty then go back to vw sc. anything can just claim kaw kaw from them.
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post Feb 17 2016, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(Trrienty @ Feb 16 2016, 11:53 PM)
For sure a turbo/super charger/twin charge engine is more excited & fun than a NA but I rather trade it for a realiable NA engine.

I have also thought of changing to other conti car ie 3 series or c class but I really had the phobia of my car break down anytime and keep in workshop for weeks and left me transport-less. That's really pain in arse as I have only 1 car
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Come tell me how a turbo engine will need "MORE" maintenance from your side, and will not as reliable as a NA car.
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Wait, when you say reliable, do you mean my turbo will blew the extractor off? rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 17 2016, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(mffa @ Feb 16 2016, 07:16 PM)
Aiyo..baru planning to get this cars later..engine check means something dangerous or just a sign(nothing serious)?..
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let me give u some example. engine check for myvi..mostly o2 sensor problem..spend rm100+ problem settle. engine check for 508..means can be anything. but what i (and my dad) noticed is some power dip..not all the time..but it happen sometimes..i bet it's related to the turbo.

i dont mind abt the problem..but after sales attitude. the car was given 5 yrs warranty..but after 3 years the warranty procedure will become a bit complicated bcause pug use assessor to check the problem and become lengthy. they didnt keep updating us abt the whole situation and we keep on waiting until 3 weeks.

unless u can get a used model below 3 yrs. bcause the warranty claim is fast and no problem. (just need to wait for spare parts and appointment date).
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post Feb 17 2016, 09:07 AM

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Warranty is nothing great for VW -- you will virtually need to "see the face" of the SC when you file claims. Your claims aren't immediate. So pray that your VW doesn't breakdown. Oh yeah, if it does breakdown, the VGM will give you a courtesy car and hope your waiting queue isn't long enough to get the courtesy car. And that, when it's your turn your car is probably fixed smile.gif

Myself is a VW owner and I am still owning this car. Unfortunately I can't ditch this car within 5 years of ownership as it's purchased under my company name and if you get why I am doing this.

If you are really fond for the CC, you may want to consider the Passat CC (2.0) instead of the new CC (1.8). The problems of Passat CC is so minimal until you have the peace of mind. As for the CC (1.8) it's slightly under powered and the 7 speed DSG is going to give you a headache.

You may want to seek for an honest opinion from your friend why is he selling off his CC just in 2 years of purchase.

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post Feb 17 2016, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Feb 17 2016, 08:58 AM)
Come tell me how a turbo engine will need "MORE" maintenance from your side, and will not as reliable as a NA car.
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Wait, when you say reliable, do you mean my turbo will blew the extractor off?  rolleyes.gif
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Don't get me wrong, what I meant is vw's forced induction. Your turbo won't blew your extractor off but will crack your pistons.
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post Feb 17 2016, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(theanswer @ Feb 17 2016, 09:02 AM)
let me give u some example. engine check for myvi..mostly o2 sensor problem..spend rm100+ problem settle. engine check for 508..means can be anything. but what i (and my dad) noticed is some power dip..not all the time..but it happen sometimes..i bet it's related to the turbo.

i dont mind abt the problem..but after sales attitude. the car was given 5 yrs warranty..but after 3 years the warranty procedure will become a bit complicated bcause pug use assessor to check the problem and become lengthy. they didnt keep updating us abt the whole situation and we keep on waiting until 3 weeks.

unless u can get a used model below 3 yrs. bcause the warranty claim is fast and no problem. (just need to wait for spare parts and appointment date).
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What's the mileage on the car? Sounds like carbon buildup problem to me. My car had exact same problem, and no amount of parts replacement can fix it. Just get the valves cleaned up

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QUOTE(Trrienty @ Feb 16 2016, 11:47 PM)
Well people judge upgrade or downgrade based on the price of car in Malaysia. Golf/Jetta is actually the same category with Mazda 3/civic/altis at oversea, just Malaysia jack up the price to be premium c seg. Yes Mazda need to improve their customer service but VW customer service isn't any better lol
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yeah, I agree.. at least the mazda3 has more tech in it eg. activesense compared to our vw which has been stripped bare but increased price.
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QUOTE(Trrienty @ Feb 17 2016, 09:30 AM)
Don't get me wrong, what I meant is vw's forced induction. Your turbo won't blew your extractor off but will crack your pistons.
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that's a common problem in 1.4 TSI
Else, i never heard any 1.2/1.8/2.0 get their piston cracked
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QUOTE(Trrienty @ Feb 16 2016, 11:47 PM)
Well people judge upgrade or downgrade based on the price of car in Malaysia. Golf/Jetta is actually the same category with Mazda 3/civic/altis at oversea, just Malaysia jack up the price to be premium c seg. Yes Mazda need to improve their customer service but VW customer service isn't any better lol
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Are you saying Mazda service is bad? I've owned Toyota, Honda and now Mazda and I can't say Mazda service is better or worse than the other two. As usual there is wide variability in quality of service between SCs for any make. You stand a better chance of getting acceptable service if the make has more SCs. I think Mazda's network is pretty good compared to VW, Ford and Peugeot.

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QUOTE(winkiedilwy @ Feb 17 2016, 05:08 AM)
if im correct the gearbox can "learn" how a person drive. usually if the driver take it slow and steady, the gearbox will try to be as fuel efficient as possible. try trashing the car for a few times. i found that after i drove, the gearbox response is quicker. since cc got paddle shift try kicking a few gears down before flooring it.

advise you send to outside sc for service and maintenance. takes forever for vw sc to change parts, and charges kaw kaw for it. im looking for outside sc for my next service too. if its under warranty then go back to vw sc. anything can just claim kaw kaw from them.
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Not gbox. But the ecu can learn how u control the pedal..
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QUOTE(juan87 @ Feb 16 2016, 04:03 PM)
while some may thought that vw golf to mazda 3 is a downgrade, to me its an upgrade. however, customer service of mazda isnt that great yet.. only if honda sells Civic hatchback here in malaysia..
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In what ways the VW Golf is worse than the Mazda 3?
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Feb 18 2016, 10:35 PM)
In what ways the VW Golf is worse than the Mazda 3?
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