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Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V) IV, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)
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Ramjade
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Apr 29 2016, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 29 2016, 04:05 PM) yes. all same. FP & VP if different. then u needed to visit ASNB branch. fill up some form. they would "pick" either one nombor ahli  Really? Need to have a look at my ASG. Anyway, will be disposing my ASG next year. 1 month after dividend.
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nexona88
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Apr 29 2016, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 29 2016, 04:25 PM) Really? Need to have a look at my ASG. Anyway, will be disposing my ASG next year. 1 month after dividend. well my friend one all same number. ASN3, ASM & ASW2020. he no ASG
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Ramjade
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Apr 29 2016, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 29 2016, 04:27 PM) well my friend one all same number. ASN3, ASM & ASW2020. he no ASG  Since NAV price will drop after dividend, how long does it take to go back up? 1 month, 2 months? Assuming no "shock" in world stage or no local "drama" This post has been edited by Ramjade: Apr 29 2016, 04:30 PM
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nexona88
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Apr 29 2016, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 29 2016, 04:29 PM) Since NAV price will drop after dividend, how long does it take to go back up? 1 month, 2 months? Assuming no "shock" in world stage or no local "drama"  normally around 3 months but depends on KLCI too
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Ramjade
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Apr 29 2016, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 29 2016, 04:36 PM) normally around 3 months but depends on KLCI too  Alright will dispose after 3rd month to maximise profit.
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plumberly
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Apr 29 2016, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 29 2016, 04:25 PM) Really? Need to have a look at my ASG. Anyway, will be disposing my ASG next year. 1 month after dividend. This got me thinking. I thought ASG is VP type and thus one can withdraw at any time without loosing out on the dividend. Correct me if I am wrong here. Say RM100,000 in the balance. I withdraw RM80,000 on 1 May. Assuming Jan to Dec financial year. Interest on RM80,000 for Jan to Apr will be given on Jan next year while RM20K will earn the full year dividend. No? If my understanding is right, then whether you withdraw now or later depends on your economy outlook. If good, then wait. If bad, withdraw now without loosing out on the dividend. Cheerio.
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wil-i-am
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Apr 29 2016, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(harmonics3 @ Apr 29 2016, 01:40 PM) Close too QUOTE(filage @ Apr 29 2016, 01:44 PM) So far, is the one account number for every types of ASX you hold in place already? Those of you with >1 ASX, your new passbooks all use same account number now or different? Both my ASM n ASW share same a/c no
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wil-i-am
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Apr 29 2016, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Apr 29 2016, 04:02 PM) Asw 5 digit again , go grab it I managed to grab some too
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Ramjade
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Apr 29 2016, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 29 2016, 05:03 PM) This got me thinking. I thought ASG is VP type and thus one can withdraw at any time without loosing out on the dividend. Correct me if I am wrong here. Say RM100,000 in the balance. I withdraw RM80,000 on 1 May. Assuming Jan to Dec financial year. Interest on RM80,000 for Jan to Apr will be given on Jan next year while RM20K will earn the full year dividend. No? If my understanding is right, then whether you withdraw now or later depends on your economy outlook. If good, then wait. If bad, withdraw now without loosing out on the dividend. Cheerio. Dividend in ASG doesn't really matter however dividend does increase the number of unit. We all know that after dividend is declared for a UT, the NAV will drop. So to maximise the profit, we need increase in units + higher/original NAV since final amount = NAV x no. of units. Correct me if I am wrong. if I withdraw straight after dividend is distributed, left hand = right hand. That way, cannot make a profit as NAV drop but no of units increase.
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Vincent9696
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Apr 29 2016, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 29 2016, 05:14 PM) I managed to grab some too  I assume u manage 5 digit as well...
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wil-i-am
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Apr 29 2016, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 29 2016, 04:29 PM) Since NAV price will drop after dividend, how long does it take to go back up? 1 month, 2 months? Assuming no "shock" in world stage or no local "drama"  Movement of NAV depends on the performance of underlying portfolios Thus, nobody will let u know when
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Ramjade
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Apr 29 2016, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 29 2016, 05:24 PM) Movement of NAV depends on the performance of underlying portfolios Thus, nobody will let u know when Still there's always a time frame. I don't need to know when. I just need to know around how many months time.
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wil-i-am
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Apr 29 2016, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 29 2016, 05:03 PM) This got me thinking. I thought ASG is VP type and thus one can withdraw at any time without loosing out on the dividend. Correct me if I am wrong here. Say RM100,000 in the balance. I withdraw RM80,000 on 1 May. Assuming Jan to Dec financial year. Interest on RM80,000 for Jan to Apr will be given on Jan next year while RM20K will earn the full year dividend. No? If my understanding is right, then whether you withdraw now or later depends on your economy outlook. If good, then wait. If bad, withdraw now without loosing out on the dividend. Cheerio. For VP funds, dividend value have been included in d NAV as compared to FP funds Thus, u can withdraw VP funds anytime without losing d dividend
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TS[Ancient]-XinG-
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Apr 29 2016, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 29 2016, 05:29 PM) Still there's always a time frame. I don't need to know when. I just need to know around how many months time. No. You won't make any profit using that way. Its purely your timing. You enter klci at 1800. You wait la. Untill this point. Now 1650 is =0.99. This also cause by the income distribution. I rather he don't give but follow the price daily.
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wil-i-am
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Apr 29 2016, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Apr 29 2016, 05:21 PM) I assume u manage 5 digit as well...  Yes
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Ramjade
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Apr 29 2016, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Apr 29 2016, 05:33 PM) No. You won't make any profit using that way. Its purely your timing. You enter klci at 1800. You wait la. Untill this point. Now 1650 is =0.99. This also cause by the income distribution. I rather he don't give but follow the price daily. I don't need klci to go back to 1800. I just need the NAV of ASG to go back to before dividend date. That's the time frame I am asking about. If klse goes back to 1800, that one just bonus.
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wil-i-am
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Apr 29 2016, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 29 2016, 05:29 PM) Still there's always a time frame. I don't need to know when. I just need to know around how many months time. I tot UT (especially VP) is meant for mid to long term instead of few mths
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Ramjade
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Apr 29 2016, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 29 2016, 05:43 PM) I tot UT (especially VP) is meant for mid to long term instead of few mths Next year already 3-4 years holding. No profit. Better cut and find some where else. If 3-4 years not performing, better don't bet anymore on it About rm30k. No profit for 3-4 years js very bad. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Apr 29 2016, 05:50 PM
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wil-i-am
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Apr 29 2016, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 29 2016, 05:49 PM) Next year already 3-4 years holding. No profit. Better cut and find some where else. If 3-4 years not performing, better don't bet anymore on it About rm30k. No profit for 3-4 years js very bad. In addition, u oso forego opportunity cost (u can earn FD int)
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twinkle5129
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Apr 29 2016, 06:04 PM
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I've an ASW acct for years but never bother to update or enquired regarding units available for purchase. Somehow, today stumble upon this forum and learnt a lot from it. Visited Mb to update ASW passbook and enquired about opening ASM in the afternoon but was told no units available for both. I was told, I can only open ASM acct if unit available. I'm only keen on fixed price product to get better dividend than Fd rate.
Please, could someone help me with questions below. - Is it possible to pay by other bank cheque if units available for purchase next time? Forgot to ask the staff today.
-Do i have to go to the bank everyday to check if units available?
CIMB, MB & RHB are close to my place. Any advice which has a better chance to check?. I'm not familiar with all banks but do have a MB acct with little saving to pay bills with it.
Thank you in advance.
This post has been edited by twinkle5129: Apr 29 2016, 06:06 PM
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