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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V) IV, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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post Jan 31 2016, 04:53 PM, updated 10y ago

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MAKLUMAT KORPORAT

Amanah Saham Nasional Berhad (ASNB) ialah anak syarikat milik penuh Permodalan Nasional Berhad (PNB) yang ditubuhkan pada 22 Mei 1979 untuk mengurus dana-dana unit amanah yang dilancarkan oleh PNB. ASNB juga bertanggungjawab untuk mendidik para pelabur mengenai faedah melabur dalam unit amanah melalui penganjuran seminar perancangan kewangan atau lebih dikenali sebagai Seminar 360, pada setiap hari di seluruh negara. Sejak pelancaran unit sulungnya Sekim Amanah Saham Nasional (ASN) pada 20 April 1981, PNB telah melancarkan sepuluh dana unit amanah yang lain iaitu Skim Amanah Saham Bumiputera (ASB), Amanah Saham Wawasan 2020 (ASW 2020), Amanah Saham Nasional 2 (ASN 2), Amanah Saham Malaysia (ASM), Amanah Saham Didik (ASD), Amanah Saham Nasional 3 Imbang (ASN 3), Amanah Saham Gemilang (ASG-Pendidikan, ASG-Kesihatan & ASG-Persaraan), Amanah Saham 1Malaysia (AS 1M) dan yang terbaru Amanah Saham Bumiputera 2 (ASB 2). Daripada 12 dana unit amanah ini, enam daripadanya ialah dana ekuiti berharga tetap, manakala selebihnya ialah dana ekuiti harga berubah-ubah yang merupakan dana-dana pendapatan, pertumbuhan dan seimbang.
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PRODUCTS

VARIABLE PRICE FUNDS

SEKIM AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL

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Objektif
Bagi menjana pulangan yang berpatutan dalam bentuk pengagihan pendapatan dan pertumbuhan modal kepada pemegang-pemegang unit melalui pelaburan dalam kepelbagaian portfolio.

Pelabur Sasaran
Pelabur yang memahami risiko dan pulangan pelaburan dan mencari peningkatan modal bagi jangka masa sederhana ke panjang.

Kelayakan
Bumiputera.
- Akaun Dewasa (18 tahun ke atas).
- Akaun Remaja (ibu bapa atau penjaga sah berumur tidak kurang 18 tahun yang melabur bagi kanak-kanak berumur 6 bulan hingga 18 tahun ke bawah).

Financial Year End: December 31
Historical Amanah Saham Nasional (ASN) Dividend Rate for past 6 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2008 - 5.50
2009 - 5.20
2010 - 6.00
2011 - 6.05
2012 - 6.30
2013 - 6.45
2014 - 6.45

Fund Performence past 4 years

Tahun Berakhir 31 Disember 2011 2012 2013 2014

Kadar Pengagihan Pendapatan Seunit (sen) 6.05 6.30 6.45 6.45

Jumlah Pulangan (%) 5.33 11.45 11.36 -5.11

NAB Seunit Tertinggi (RM) 0.8841 0.9046 0.9391 0.8977

NAB Seunit Terendah (RM) 0.7703 0.8127 0.8225 0.7981

AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL 2

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Memberi peluang kepada pemegang-pemegang unit untuk mendapat pulangan dalam bentuk pengagihan pendapatan dan pulangan modal pada tahap risiko yang berpatutan melalui pelaburan dalam kepelbagaian portfolio sekuriti, terutamanya dalam ekuiti sekuriti Malaysia selaras dengan Suratikatan, Garis Panduan dan undang-undang sekuriti.

Pelabur Sasaran
Pelabur yang memahami risiko dan pulangan pelaburan dan mencari peningkatan modal bagi jangka masa sederhana ke panjang.

Kelayakan
Bumiputera 18 tahun ke atas.

Financial Year End: June 30
Historical Amanah Saham Nasional 2(ASN2) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 5.20
2010 - 5.20
2011 - 5.50
2012 - 6.50
2013 - 7.10
2014 - 6.90
2015 - 3.45

Fund Performence past 4 years

Tahun Berakhir 30 Jun 2012 2013 2014 2015

Kadar Pengagihan Pendapatan Seunit (sen) 6.50 7.10 6.90 3.45

Jumlah Pulangan (%) 6.56 14.13 9.47 -2.57

NAB Seunit Tertinggi (RM) 1.2588 1.3783 1.4135 1.13586

NAB Seunit Terendah (RM) 1.0504 1.1948 1.2447 0.6174

AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL 3 IMBANG

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Untuk menjana pertumbuhan modal dalam jangka masa sederhana hingga jangka masa panjang menerusi pelaburan dalam portfolio yang seimbang dan melalui pelaburan semula pengagihan pendapatan, sekiranya ada.

Pelabur Sasaran
Pelabur yang memahami risiko dan pulangan pelaburan serta mengharapkan pertumbuhan modal bagi tempoh jangka masa sederhana ke panjang.

Kelayakan
Warganegara 18 tahun ke atas.

Financial Year End: November 30
Historical Amanah Saham Nasional 3 (ASN3) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 7.00
2010 - 5.50
2011 - 6.00
2012 - 6.30
2013 - 6.40
2014 - 6.20

Fund Performence past 4 years
Tahun Berakhir 30 November 2011 2012 2013 2014

Kadar Pengagihan Pendapatan Seunit (sen) 6.00 6.30 6.40 6.20

Jumlah Pulangan (%) 3.17 11.64 10.86 2.21

NAB Seunit Tertinggi (RM) 1.1510 1.2010 1.2331 1.2126

NAB Seunit Terendah (RM) 1.0522 1.0495 1.1124 1.1582

AMANAH SAHAM GEMILANG

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Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Gemilang Pendidkan (ASG-P) Dividend Rate for past 6 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 5.50
2010 - 5.50
2011 - 5.60
2012 - 7.00
2013 - 7.10
2014 - 7.10
2015 - 7.10

Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Saham Gemilang Kesihatan (ASG-K) Dividend Rate for past 6 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 6.00
2010 - 6.00
2011 - 6.10
2012 - 7.10
2013 - 7.20
2014 - 7.20
2015 - 7.20

Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Saham Gemilang Persaraan (ASG-P) Dividend Rate for past 6 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 5.00
2010 - 5.00
2011 - 5.10
2012 - 7.05
2013 - 7.30
2014 - 7.05
2015 - 7.05

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[FIXED PRICE FUNDS]

SKIM AMANAH SAHAM BUMIPUTERA

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Untuk menjana pulangan jangka panjang yang kompetitif dan konsisten kepada pemegang-pemegang unit di samping memastikan pengekalan modal pada tahap toleransi risiko yang minimum.

Pelabur Sasaran
Pelabur yang memahami risiko dan pulangan pelaburan serta menjangkakan manfaat dari pertumbuhan jangka panjang tabung hasil pelaburan semula pengagihan pendapatan (sekiranya ada) dan penerimaan pendapatan (sekiranya ada) ke atas pelaburan mereka.

Kelayakan
Bumiputera.
- Akaun Dewasa (18 tahun ke atas).
- Akaun Remaja (ibu bapa atau penjaga sah berumur tidak kurang 18 tahun yang melabur bagi kanak-kanak berumur 6 bulan hingga 18 tahun ke bawah).

Financial Year End: December 31
Historical Amanah Saham Bumiputera (ASB) Dividend Rate for past 7 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2008 - 7.00 + 1.75
2009 - 7.30 + 1.25
2010 - 7.50 + 1.25
2011 - 7.65 + 1.15
2012 - 7.75 + 1.15
2013 - 7.70 + 1.00
2014 - 7.50 + 1.00
(Dividend) + (Bonus)


AMANAH SAHAM WAWASAN 2020

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Untuk memberi kadar pulangan yang berpatutan kepada pemegang-pemegang unit menerusi pelaburan dalam portfolio terpilih yang terdiri daripada pelaburan yang dibenarkan.

Pelabur Sasaran
Pelabur yang memahami risiko dan pulangan pelaburan serta mengharapkan manfaat dari pertumbuhan jangka panjang tabung hasil pelaburan semula pengagihan pendapatan (sekiranya ada) dan penerimaan pendapatan (sekiranya ada) ke atas pelaburan mereka.

Kelayakan
Warganegara.
- Akaun Dewasa (18 tahun ke atas).
- Akaun Remaja (ibu bapa atau penjaga sah berumur tidak kurang 18 tahun yang melabur bagi kanak-kanak berumur 6 bulan hingga 18 tahun ke bawah).

Financial Year End: August 31
Historical Amanah Saham Wawasan 2020 (ASW2020) Dividend Rate for past 7 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 7.00
2010 - 6.30
2011 - 6.50
2012 - 6.60
2013 - 6.70
2014 - 6.60
2015 - 6.40

AMANAH SAHAM MALAYSIA

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Untuk memberi peluang kepada pemegang-pemegang unit membuat pelaburan jangka panjang yang menjana pulangan yang kompetitif dan berterusan menerusi pelaburan dalam portfolio yang dipelbagaikan.


Pelabur Sasaran
Pelabur yang memahami risiko dan pulangan pelaburan serta mengharapkan manfaat dari pertumbuhan jangka panjang tabung hasil pelaburan semula pengagihan pendapatan (sekiranya ada) dan penerimaan pendapatan (sekiranya ada) ke atas pelaburan mereka.

Kelayakan
Warganegara.
- Akaun Dewasa (18 tahun ke atas).
- Akaun Remaja (ibu bapa atau penjaga sah berumur tidak kurang 18 tahun yang melabur bagi kanak-kanak berumur 6 bulan hingga 18 tahun ke bawah).

Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Saham Malaysia (ASM) Dividend Rate for past 7 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 6.25
2010 - 6.30
2011 - 6.38
2012 - 6.80
2013 - 6.50
2014 - 6.60
2015 - 6.60

AMANAH SAHAM DIDIK

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Untuk memberi peluang pelaburan yang dapat menjana pulangan dan pertumbuhan pelaburan jangka panjang yang berpatutan kepada pemegang-pemegang unit

Pelabur Sasaran
Pelabur yang memahami risiko dan pulangan pelaburan dan mengharapkan pertumbuhan modal bagi jangka masa panjang dari pelaburan semula pengagihan pendapatan (sekiranya ada), sebagai persediaan keperluan kewangan bagi tujuan perbelanjaan pendidikan pelabur dan ahli keluarga pada masa hadapan.

Kelayakan
Bumiputera.
- Akaun Dewasa (18 tahun ke atas).
- Akaun Remaja (ibu bapa atau penjaga sah berumur tidak kurang 18 tahun yang melabur bagi kanak-kanak berumur 6 bulan hingga 18 tahun ke bawah).

Financial Year End: June 30
Historical Amanah Saham Didik (ASD) Dividend Rate for past 7 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 6.30
2010 - 6.35
2011 - 6.50
2012 - 6.60
2013 - 6.80
2014 - 6.60
2015 - 6.60

AMANAH SAHAM 1MALAYSIA

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Objektif pelaburan AS 1Malaysia adalah untuk mendapatkan peluang pelaburan yang menjana pendapatan yang konsisten dan berterusan di samping mengekalkan modal pelaburan para pemegang unit di dalam tempoh jangka panjang melalui portfolio pelaburan yang dipelbagaikan.

Pelabur Sasaran
- Pelabur jangka masa sederhana dan jangka masa panjang.
- Pelabur yang memahami pulangan dan risiko.
- Pelabur yang ingin mendapatkan pulangan dari pengagihan pendapatan, sekiranya ada.

Kelayakan
Warganegara.
- Akaun Dewasa (18 tahun ke atas).
- Akaun Remaja (ibu bapa atau penjaga sah berumur tidak kurang 18 tahun yang melabur bagi kanak-kanak berumur 6 bulan hingga 18 tahun ke bawah).

Financial Year End: September 30
Historical Amanah Saham 1Malaysia (AS1M) Dividend Rate for past 6 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2010 - 6.38
2011 - 6.50
2012 - 6.60
2013 - 6.80
2014 - 6.60
2015 - 6.40

AMANAH SAHAM BUMIPUTERA 2

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Objektif
Menjana pulangan jangka panjang yang konsisten di samping memastikan pengekalan modal pemegang unit dengan menyertai pelaburan di dalam portfolio aset campuran.

Pelabur Sasaran
Dana ini sesuai untuk pelabur yang mempunyai profil yang berikut:

- Memahami risiko dan pulangan pelaburan.
- Mencari instrumen pelaburan jangka panjang yang berpotensi untuk menjana pulangan
tahunan yang lebih baik daripada kadar
pulangan purata Sekuriti Kerajaan Malaysia
(Malaysia Government Securities, MGS)
5-Tahun.

Kelayakan
Bumiputera.
- Akaun Dewasa (18 tahun ke atas).
- Akaun Remaja (ibu bapa atau penjaga sah berumur tidak kurang 18 tahun yang melabur bagi kanak-kanak berumur 6 bulan hingga 18 tahun ke bawah).

Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Saham Bumiputera 2 (ASB2) Dividend Rate for past 1 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2015 - 7.50 + 0.25
(Dividend) + (Bonus)

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Updated 2016 FEB

1 - I am a non-bumiputera. And I am totally new to this. Which fund should I go?


You miss the so called golden chance which is happening on 2015 JUNE - OCTOBER, regarding our top picked FIXED PRICED FUNDS. Those were the time where people top up and the success rate is almost 100% (any amount), as well as opening up a new account. However, for now, the chances is still there, but try little bit more harder and the units will be lesser and lesser in coming weeks or months. Well, its also depend on various factor such as world markets, commodities prices and some "national issues". For those who having any account on Fixed Price Funds, you can keep trying to top up with no guarantee you able to get additional units. Next, for those who having higher risk appetite, Variable Price Funds, ASG, and ASN3. Currently only have this two option for you. Now in laymen term, the prices are low, if you have a brave heart, can try it. ASG Pesaraan. Once ROI around 15% but when the chance or interpreted the market wrongly end up ROI will be around 3.5% or negative value VP funds can be fun if the timing is correct. But there will be some platform give better experiences such as FSM, but I myself haven't try it. But people say its good.

2 - I am a bumiputera. And I am totally new to this. Which fund should I go?

Follow this order, you will never go wrong. ASB - ASB 2 - ASW2020 - ASM - ASD - AS1M.

3 - Any online transection allow?

Yes, one of them is m2u and CIMB Clicks. But currently CIMB having some problems as you cant merge account due to system upgrades by ASNB. M2U for non bumiputera is AS1M, but each and every transection need processing fees of MYR 1.06.

4 - EPF?

Yes. But details need an expert to explain it.

5 - Where can I buy the unit?

Agents. Pos MY, MBB, RHB, CIMB. And ASNB office as well. Newly added will be Affin Banks, BSN, Alliance Banks. But the service provided will be varies.

6 - Best time to buy?

No specific time but, most people do say that. Before any big festive sessions, school reopen and any occasion that need money. However, you don't know when people do need those money.

7. Places to try opening new Fixed Price Fund for the Non-Bumipuitera.

Maybank
KLIA2, Bdr Bkt Tinggi 1, Klang Town, D'sara Uptown, KL Sentral, Cyberjaya, Cheng & Graha Peladang (Melaka),
Rampai Biz Park, Karak, KLCC, Desa Jaya (Kepong), Taman Pelangi (JB), Kompleks Bandar (OUG), Mid Valley Mall, Kuchai Lama

ASNB
KL HQ, Melaka, Bayan Lepas, Kuching, Seberang Jaya

PosMalaysia
HQ KL, Shah Alam, Triang, Klang Utara (near Mydin)

CIMB
Bangi, Jalan Parry Miri, Taman Putra Ampang, D'sara Uptown

RHB
Padungan, KLCC, Simpang 3 Kuching, Jalan Stesen Klang, Bandar Utama

Affin Bank
Cyberjaya

Places above are based on user experiences. And they managed to open the precious account on the mentioned location.

8. How much can I top up per day?(CASH)

50000 MYR per day for all types of products. Meaning, the limit will impose on an account number. (I guess this is the reason they upgrading their system.)

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Flash Facts

- If there is no units available, you will never ever able to purchase new units or opening up a new account.

- To open up an account, you need 100 MYR.

- To top up, minimum value shall at 1.00 MYR.

- When opening up an account, can choose any of the three FP, they actually act the same just subject to availability.

- To top up any amount also acceptable, but just above 1.00 MYR.

- Regarding the date to top up, its up to you. I don't wish to explain this further.

- Funds can be top up via CIMB and MBB, online. However, for non bumi, the only available for online purchase will be AS1M. There will no specific limit, but still subject to availability.

- For non bumi, try opening up FP first.

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Please do take note, this is heavily dependent on the KLCI performance. And the total return do affects its performance too. Do not confused by the "dividend" paid.

Calculation upon Variable Price Fund using ASG as an example.

NAV of the day you invest - 1.1800
Amount of MYR invested - 10000
Units in hand - 8474.58
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Dividend pay on the financial year end - 7.0%
Dividend - 593.22 MYR
NAV of the day - 1.1300
Units paid - 524.97
Total units in hand - 8999.55
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If lets say you want to cash out that day
you will get 10169.49 MYR
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If you stay for 5 years
Y1 - 8999.55
Dividend - 6.8%
NAV - 1.1500
9531.69 MYR


Y2 - 9531.69
Dividend - 6.8%
NAV - 1.1580
10091.41 MYR


Y3 - 10091.41
Dividend 6.8%
NAV - 1.1600
10682.98 MYR

Y4 - 10682.99
Dividend 6.8%
NAV - 1.1700
11303.88 MYR

Y5 - 11303.88
NAV 1.18
Total cash in hand - 13338.58.
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Comparing with FD ( Compounding ) Flat rate 4.0% p.a.
Y1 - 10000
Y2 - 10400
Y3 - 10816
Y4 - 11248.64
Y5 - 11698.58
In MYR.
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Of course you CAN'T invest fully in 1 method only. FD is the best among all when it come to risk. Thus, don't put all eggs in 1 basket. Diversify it.
And see things do happen like now. Crude oil, flood, all affecting nation as well as MY will affecting the BURSA and thus ASG.
Hope I help in this post. Feel free to ask me. My answer may be incorrect but I can tell you some info that banker reluctant to tell you. And, FP > VP, anytime.
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Just to share some info I got ASNB official page.

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ASG Pendidkan
Novagni Cat - MIXED ASSET MY
Fund rating - 2 stars
Peer ranking - 30/42
Unit in circulation - 311.15 Mil Units.

ASG - Kesihatan
Novagni Cat - EQUITY MY
Fund rating - 3 stars
Peer rating - 53/75
Unit in circulation - 409.32 Mil Units.

ASG - Persaraan
Novagni Cat - MIXXED ASSET MY
Fund rating - 3 stars
Peer rating - 21/42
Unit in circulation - 136.64 Mil Units.

** Collectively the three unit trust under the umbrella of ASG have cumulative maximum size of 1.0 billion unit.

*** Potential investor are those who understand investment risk and rewards and are seeking growth of capital over long term period and plan to fulfil the financial requirement for their education/medical expenses/retirement.

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 23 2016, 08:17 PM)
passbook picture credit to buggie notworthy.gif  flex.gif 

it's 400k loan + 80k from previous years interest as stated in LINK
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QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Jan 23 2016, 08:49 PM)
I wonder how can get 400k loan ? Unless previously got more than 400k inside asb .
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Thanks @nexona88 for the credit.

Yes, @Vincent9696 Couple of years ago PNB still allow max loan up to 400k so when my dividend touch 200k, I moved it to ASB 2 and fill the gap with another 200k making it 400k loan. At the same time, that 200k moved to ASB2 will also earn me about 14-15k, which makes the yearly total dividend on 600k amounting to 37k (ASB) + 15k (ASB2) = 52k per year.

Not without cost though, the loan costs me 2.2k per month for a yearly total of 26.4k. So actually, as it stands now, i'm only earning a clean 25.6k. Of course this figure will only get higher as the dividend compounds but the monthly payments are fixed at 2.2k

My next step is to get the ASB2 loan and move the 200k to ASD or some other fund so that interest will be on 1 Million (counting the earned compunded interest in the book)

So for those who are still on the fence, get the loan, and start as early as possible!
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Lets say you have a bumi friend who wants to invest but she said she has no money. U yourself is non bumi. She said u use her name and u keep the passbook but dividen share half half is that workable
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 31 2016, 08:56 PM)
Lets say you have a bumi friend who wants to invest but she said she has no money. U yourself is non bumi. She said u use her name and u keep the passbook but dividen share half half is that workable
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That is doable. If you can trust that person. What happen if the person act dumb and say you never give me any money? I am not even sure a B&W can cut it.

Keyword here is trust.

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 31 2016, 08:56 PM)
Lets say you have a bumi friend who wants to invest but she said she has no money. U yourself is non bumi. She said u use her name and u keep the passbook but dividen share half half is that workable
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lol. that's very risky.
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jan 31 2016, 09:02 PM)
lol. that's very risky.
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Please update the min amount, how much is the min to topup.
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 31 2016, 08:56 PM)
Lets say you have a bumi friend who wants to invest but she said she has no money. U yourself is non bumi. She said u use her name and u keep the passbook but dividen share half half is that workable
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Risky and in an unknown area which I prefer to stay out.

50-50?

Then only 10/2 = 5%. Get higher than 5% in ASX.

Cheerio.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 31 2016, 09:05 PM)
Please update the min amount, how much is the min to topup.
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I wrote rm1 rite
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jan 31 2016, 09:07 PM)
I wrote rm1 rite
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Sorry my mistake.
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QUOTE(buggie @ Jan 31 2016, 08:48 PM)
Thanks @nexona88 for the credit.

Yes, @Vincent9696 Couple of years ago PNB still allow max loan up to 400k so when my dividend touch 200k, I moved it to ASB 2 and fill the gap with another 200k making it 400k loan. At the same time, that 200k moved to ASB2 will also earn me about 14-15k, which makes the yearly total dividend on 600k amounting to 37k (ASB) + 15k (ASB2) = 52k per year.

Not without cost though, the loan costs me 2.2k per month for a yearly total of 26.4k. So actually, as it stands now, i'm only earning a clean 25.6k. Of course this figure will only get higher as the dividend compounds but the monthly payments are fixed at 2.2k

My next step is to get the ASB2 loan and move the 200k to ASD or some other fund so that interest will be on 1 Million (counting the earned compunded interest in the book)

So for those who are still on the fence, get the loan, and start as early as possible!
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notworthy.gif u are really a great person..but remember , dont keep all eggs in one basket only....
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Check in new thread ~ tongue.gif biggrin.gif the list of place already posted by TS. So my work is done. Any newbie, u all pandai2 see which place near to u to go open new acc..
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post Jan 31 2016, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Jan 31 2016, 09:34 PM)
notworthy.gif  u are really a great person..but remember , dont keep all eggs in one basket only....
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Yes bro, your advice is valid and heeded. I do have a few other things up my sleeve thumbup.gif

Lucky that ASB loan is relatively low risk tho. It has no lock in period and if it gets too hot to handle, say BR increases or dividends take a slump, can terminate anytime and collect back the ammortized amount.

I'm riding this ASB loan thing to achieve my target of 1 million in cold hard cash as quickly as possible. Most people will be multi millionaires on paper, (especially with property prices this last few years) but I want Cash money! Cash is King ma... heheh Altho 1M seems very little taking into account inflation and what not. Hmmm might need to revise the target rclxub.gif

I'm a salary earner (not tauke business) so proper and early planning is crucial for me.

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QUOTE(buggie @ Jan 31 2016, 10:06 PM)
Yes bro, your advice is valid and heeded. I do have a few other things up my sleeve thumbup.gif

Lucky that ASB loan is relatively low risk tho. It has no lock in period and if it gets too hot to handle, say BR increases or dividends take a slump, can terminate anytime and collect back the ammortized amount.

I'm riding this ASB loan thing to achieve my target of 1 million in cold hard cash as quickly as possible. Most people will be multi millionaires on paper, (especially with property prices this last few years) but I want Cash money! Cash is King ma... heheh Altho 1M seems very little taking into account inflation and what not. Hmmm might need to revise the target rclxub.gif

I'm a salary earner (not tauke business) so proper and early planning is crucial for me.
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learnt a lot from ur strategy on how to invest in ASB but too bad now the loan limit is capped at 200k and not 400k

however i've came up with some alternatives strategies for this issue rclxm9.gif
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post Jan 31 2016, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(buggie @ Jan 31 2016, 10:06 PM)
Yes bro, your advice is valid and heeded. I do have a few other things up my sleeve thumbup.gif

Lucky that ASB loan is relatively low risk tho. It has no lock in period and if it gets too hot to handle, say BR increases or dividends take a slump, can terminate anytime and collect back the ammortized amount.

I'm riding this ASB loan thing to achieve my target of 1 million in cold hard cash as quickly as possible. Most people will be multi millionaires on paper, (especially with property prices this last few years) but I want Cash money! Cash is King ma... heheh Altho 1M seems very little taking into account inflation and what not. Hmmm might need to revise the target rclxub.gif

I'm a salary earner (not tauke business) so proper and early planning is crucial for me.
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Also quickly maximized ur asb2 , this is because the fund size only 10billion.

Agreed some of ur statement , but cash may be king , some may not ...Ringgit depreciation u holding cash is not worth...buy property , gold , etc to keep (just my suggestion)
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Jan 31 2016, 10:13 PM)
learnt a lot from ur strategy on how to invest in ASB but too bad now the loan limit is capped at 200k and not 400k

however i've came up with some alternatives strategies for this issue  rclxm9.gif
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Hey Davez89, the objective here is to accumulate first. Took me 10 years to earn that 200k dividend so you never know, in that 10 years, PNB may change their minds again.

Mind to share those alternative strategies for the benefit of all of us?

QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Jan 31 2016, 10:19 PM)
Also quickly maximized ur asb2 , this is because the fund size only 10billion.

Agreed some of ur statement , but cash may be king , some may not ...Ringgit depreciation u holding cash is not worth...buy property , gold , etc to keep (just my suggestion)
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ASB2 maxed already bro... transferred from the dividend of ASB. After this taking ASB2 loan and buying ASW2020 (if can get) otherwise ASD.

Property can't afford anymore. My next one will be 30% down. Cost of ownership now very high for me ady. Gold... hmmm haven't ventured in this yet. Need to research. Dabbling in stock market now.... win some, lose some.... can't seem to gain any ground.... must study more...


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Guys, any idea of how for a non bumi earn as fast as possible using fp to earn first 200k?
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Guys, any idea of how for a non bumi earn as fast as possible using fp to earn first 200k?
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RM200k in dividend or principal?

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