Thanks for the sharing.  This will open up many questions.  Example, when you say "May you soul rest in peace."  Where does your spirit goes?

In any case, Watchmen Nee has a book called The Breaking of The Outer Man and The Release of Spirit.  Probably, for one to fully understand the works of spirit, your outer man needs to be broken.

Thanks for the sharing.  This will open up many questions.  Example, when you say "May you soul rest in peace."  Where does your spirit goes?

In any case, Watchmen Nee has a book called The Breaking of The Outer Man and The Release of Spirit.  Probably, for one to fully understand the works of spirit, your outer man needs to be broken.

WOOT PEH KAY DOUBLE POST

WOOT PEH KAY DOUBLE POST

Maybe you want go through my question...slowly.

Better than sit down do nothing. I voice up. I can see a bit of change lately at DUMC, they toned down on their giving message. Some pastors are giving more sermons about submission to each other and fellowship. I think the Holy Spirit is starting to touch them.

So much for bitterness as some say, because if I am bitter, I would have left the church a long time ago. I just drained by the message of serving over all things else.

You better do a lot of research on mission before you get yourself involve. There would not be flush toilets and you likely have to sleep in a cow shed with the cows excreting shiit halfway and mosquito bites.

If one is contended, one is in trouble. Because it is the unsureness of whether wanting to be single or on the other side, being married. or just no choice, because of the way of the world, to be single, so just go with the flow. Sooner or later, the Devil will attack, and contention becomes frustration. One has to be Joyful to be single ! Happy to be at that status. To be contended means still have the heart and dreams of wanting to be attach/married.

Life is not easy as pie, that's why the church leadership not only has to build up our faith but also develop caring, kind and accountable members, we care for each other. We look after each other, that's what sets us apart from the gentiles out there. I am not saying in terms of $$$, I am saying prayer, asking "hey how are you?", visiting each other houses, when fall sick - come to hospital to see, help out moving house, etc. But all DUMC does is saying, God will take care of your needs, entirely neglecting the need for us to be unify.

But did you voice up to your elders or pastors? 

Then if you are not bitter, why do you complaint?

Yeah of course I will do research and I know the terrible condition of those countries. If you been to KL toilet, its not a pretty sight either.

Just because one is not married doesn't mean that person can't be happy. And being attached / married doesn't mean that happiness is guaranteed.

Yes I agree, a church need to be proactive with its members.

Character assasination doesn't make the person unqualified to make constructive comments to improve the way the church runs. I heard last time the church open doors to prostitutes, depressive people, poor, lame and blind people. Then if person have past problems, it disqualified them to propose something to improve church? Is that your logic? So your pastor have never sin before lah, that's why you can follow him or her? Just because a person whether what you judge is true or not, does not disqualify a person from saying something out.

If you agree to serve man is to serve god, then why the church continue to ignore and castigate others?

Hey not everybody is strong will liked you. Duh.

Just because you can do it doesn't mean everybody else is capable of doing it.

If it that easy, we all would be prophets by now. 

Do you have to feel bitter to complaint? Can't a complaint be out of concern?

Yes I know one or two junior pastors. I don't have much opportunity to talk to the main pastor.

Thats the thing, leadership always regard a person as nagging or complaining. Its how a church shut down dissenters by saying this person is an empty gong. There is no relation between bitterness and complaining. Have seen quiet bitter people before.

Well, not sure you have dug a hole to poo before.

Just because one is single doesn't mean one should not try to get married.

aih

I didn't say that.

It's not the matter if you can.

Then what are you saying? I know you are well-versed in Bible, that does not mean that you can bully a noob like me.

Have a blessed weekend.

Going to prep my kitchen now.

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