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De_Luffy
post Feb 26 2016, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(Blindspot61 @ Feb 25 2016, 11:16 PM)
Oops. de_luffy I AM SO SO SO Sorry. My apology.  sad.gif

And initially I though you - tinarhian - are male.
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post Feb 26 2016, 12:44 AM

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I think prosperity is part of the life cycle, we cannot avoid it no matter how we try to turn away, same goes with prosperity teaching but not financial prosperity......

Prosperity teaching is important as every church needed a fund to run the church, and more ever if the church keep growing of course they needed a bigger place to cater the growing worshippers. without funds, we're unable to support both local and oversea missionaries or any instruments needed for worship, over the years those equipment will have their expiry date and time to service to extend it lifespan or worse case time to get a new one.....all those need funds
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Feb 26 2016, 12:25 AM)
Lol, I'm ain't a lady I'm a guy who is interested in japanese cultures including anime doh.gif
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Having said that, its kind of rare nowaday that a boy help out in the house too. That's why I thought you were a girl.

My daughter and me do watch anime too last time - Fullmetal Alchemist but after that, not many as interesting as that show anymore, so watch less now unless there's some interesting one came up.
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post Feb 26 2016, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(Blindspot61 @ Feb 26 2016, 12:50 AM)
Having said that, its kind of rare nowaday that a boy help out in the house too. That's why I thought you were a girl.

My daughter and me do watch anime too last time - Fullmetal Alchemist but after that, not many as interesting as that show anymore, so watch less now unless there's some interesting one came up.
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FMA kinda boring, i prefer those comedy with adventures
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post Feb 26 2016, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Feb 26 2016, 02:08 AM)
FMA kinda boring, i prefer those comedy with adventures
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Well, maybe its for more mature audience.
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post Feb 26 2016, 09:51 AM

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Bible Devotion

2 Corinthians 8:9 (NIV) -For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich."

First of all notice that, interestingly this verse is put under the title of The Collection for the Lord’s People of the NIV version of the Bible. Why? Because chapter 8 of the 2 Corinthians is talking about Church Collections, Gifts to the Church. And in verse 7 it says: But since you excel in everything—in faith, in speech, in knowledge, in complete earnestness and in the love we have kindled in you —see that you also excel in this grace of giving.

If you notice the highlighted bold part it's talking about the grace of giving! So 2 Corinthians 8:9 has to do very much with Providence. It has nothing to do with Spiritual in context although it can be but we need not shy away the moment subject like money or prosperity is mentioned. The problem with subject of money is that there are extreme ends which are wrong.

The very contended subject of one end has been about prosperity gospel and the other end is to say there is no such thing as prosperity in the gospel.

Let me start by saying We have a God who loves to prosper his people. (Psalm 35:27 KJV) - Let them shout for joy, and be glad, that favour my righteous cause: yea, let them say continually, Let the LORD be magnified, which hath pleasure in the prosperity of his servant.)

Next we need to define what is prosperity according to the Bible and this is the biggest misunderstanding that christian has. Most of the time the mere mention of the word "prosperity" to the average christians, they'll say Financially Rich equivalent to Millionaires or Billionaires. Ask anyone about this, and you'll know what I say is true. This is the biggest stumbling block that causes christian worldwide not to understand what prosperity is all about.

Prosperity according to the Bible is this: To be in a position / place of no lack. It is about welfare of the said person. In fact the word Salvation or Shalom in the Hebrew means: completeness, soundness, welfare, peace It is an encompassing wholeness, holistically COMPLETE in every area, be it providence, healing, peace of mind, protection, etc.

Psalm 23:1 says this: The LORD is my shepherd, I lack nothing. So even if you're a low income earner but you have no needs; you don't owe money to people, you have more than enough to eat, you can spend some money to enjoy your life.....you are Rich and you are in the position of Prosperity. THAT is Biblical and God is more than willing to bring you to that position. Because there are very rich people who have millions in the bank and yet is never enough for them because they have MUCH "needs".

The secret to the wellbeing of our prosperity is to keep our eyes on our Saviour Jesus Christ and not on the money. I've always said this: There is no such thing as the prosperity gospel. The Gospel is about the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ BUT when you believe in the gospel, prosperity like all other promised such as healing, protection is part of the package. I hope with all that being said, you have a proper view of this matter.

God Bless.

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post Feb 26 2016, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(Blindspot61 @ Feb 26 2016, 09:07 AM)
Well, maybe its for more mature audience.
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if you are into mecha type you can try Gundam anime.

If you like those comedy no matter what type it is associated with there's plenty.

my current watch list

Fairy tail zero
One piece
Gundam
Garo: the crimson moon
Divine gate
Gate
Schwaraken
Akagami no Shirayuki

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post Feb 26 2016, 10:45 AM

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This is what wikipedia said about Prosperity gospels:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology


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post Feb 26 2016, 10:51 AM

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Prosperity Gospel overall is not bad but it's how we implement it or how we translate the meaning of it. The word Prosperity has been used in the bible since beginning of Genesis when God first Created Man and Women up to the time of the Apostles
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post Feb 26 2016, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Feb 26 2016, 10:28 AM)
if you are into mecha type you can try Gundam anime.

If you like those comedy no matter what type it is associated with there's plenty.

my current watch list

Fairy tail zero
One piece
Gundam
Garo: the crimson moon
Divine gate
Gate
Schwaraken
Akagami no Shirayuki
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Not really into mecha but i did watch one which hv mecha too and abit comedy. Can't remember the name. It Gundam something.

FMA is the anime that got us interested in watching anime and its the only anime that we always can't wait to catch the next episode. The only one we view the whole episode actually.

From your list, my daugter did watch fairy tail zero and akagami no shirayuki.
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post Feb 26 2016, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Blindspot61 @ Feb 26 2016, 12:11 PM)
Not really into mecha but i did watch one which hv mecha too and abit comedy. Can't remember the name. It Gundam something.

FMA is the anime that got us interested in watching anime and its the only anime that we always can't wait to catch the next episode. The only one we view the whole episode actually.

From your list, my daugter did watch fairy tail zero and akagami no shirayuki.
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Maybe you can follow Dragon ball series? latest series ongoing Dragon Ball Super on my watch list too
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Feb 26 2016, 10:51 AM)
Prosperity Gospel overall is not bad but it's how we implement it or how we translate the meaning of it. The word Prosperity has been used in the bible since beginning of Genesis when God first Created Man and Women up to the time of the Apostles
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nothing is wrong with prosperity. i'm not against prosperity. what is wrong is that modern day churches have been preaching believing in Christ would be prosperous and willingly giving will be prosperous. this is not right.
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QUOTE(Blindspot61 @ Feb 26 2016, 12:11 PM)
Not really into mecha but i did watch one which hv mecha too and abit comedy. Can't remember the name. It Gundam something.

FMA is the anime that got us interested in watching anime and its the only anime that we always can't wait to catch the next episode. The only one we view the whole episode actually.

From your list, my daugter did watch fairy tail zero and akagami no shirayuki.
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I SEE ANIME DISCUSSION

This season you must watch Boku dake ga Inai Machi a.k.a Erased a.k.a Bokumachi.

Best Mystery anime this season. Every episode will leave you wanting to see the next ep. It'll be 12 episodes too. Very short.
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 26 2016, 09:18 PM)
I SEE ANIME DISCUSSION

This season you must watch Boku dake ga Inai Machi a.k.a Erased a.k.a Bokumachi.

Best Mystery anime this season. Every episode will leave you wanting to see the next ep. It'll be 12 episodes too. Very short.
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Feb 26 2016, 07:25 PM)
I am also a sinner la, so would say no such thing as a perfect christian.

The problem is not his reaction, it is the way the leadership overfocus on serving.

The leadership has spoken little about kindness, character building, serving one another, brotherhood, accountability, etc. After all, if we want to be community to the others, how are we to serve others, when we cannot even serve each other.

It starts with us, and most importantly the leadership of the church, what they preach on Sunday sermon. If they keep on insisting us to pay sin tax of giving then ultimately it works up to guilt. And with guilt, unkindness, politics and nastiness between christians. When this happens, we become fake, like MLM agents to those we are ministering to. That's why most unbelievers tell me that they find christians not genuine, only want their soul. Even new believers tend to fall out because no one bother to follow up. Its so lazy of us to just leave it to God to do his work for us.

When I mention this to my leaders, their reply is focus on God not the mistakes of mankind. They do have a point but by saying this, they just don't want to improve themselves and ignore the whole problem. That's why in ministries, politics is so prevailing.

DOn't get me wrong, I am not looking for perfection, just at least something the church leaders should galvanize us to look at, rather than telling us to serve all day long.
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What's wrong with serving? serving has many meaning you know doesn't need to serve in church to be called serving, serving means love the lord your god with all your heart mind and soul
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post Feb 26 2016, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Feb 26 2016, 07:25 PM)
I am also a sinner la, so would say no such thing as a perfect christian.

The problem is not his reaction, it is the way the leadership overfocus on serving.

The leadership has spoken little about kindness, character building, serving one another, brotherhood, accountability, etc. After all, if we want to be community to the others, how are we to serve others, when we cannot even serve each other.

It starts with us, and most importantly the leadership of the church, what they preach on Sunday sermon. If they keep on insisting us to pay sin tax of giving then ultimately it works up to guilt. And with guilt, unkindness, politics and nastiness between christians. When this happens, we become fake, like MLM agents to those we are ministering to. That's why most unbelievers tell me that they find christians not genuine, only want their soul. Even new believers tend to fall out because no one bother to follow up. Its so lazy of us to just leave it to God to do his work for us.

When I mention this to my leaders, their reply is focus on God not the mistakes of mankind. They do have a point but by saying this, they just don't want to improve themselves and ignore the whole problem. That's why in ministries, politics is so prevailing.

DOn't get me wrong, I am not looking for perfection, just at least something the church leaders should galvanize us to look at, rather than telling us to serve all day long.
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We all know pretty well that we are all sinners but do not let that to be a hindrance to us when we try to make things right. Reminding us as being a sinner should not be to a point that make all of us weak. Weak to an extend that we shy away from doing what is right, don't you think so? Oh, we are sinner too so we should just back down and turn a blind eye to a rotting way? To acknowledge that we are sinner is to begin doing self reflection and correcting ourselves to follow the path that God want us to be and NOT just merely acknowledge that and not doing anything about it but keep on giving excuses that 'Oh, I am a sinner, who is not? what ever I do wrong is already acknowledge' kind of attitude.

Before anyone start to preach about thou shall not judge, please do take a moment to think. Assuming you saw a child who is about to pick up wrong/bad habit. What would you do? Tell the child that is wrong and incorrect? Do that and you are judging him ain't you? Let it be because you refuse to judge and it will become a norm (like whats going on now in churches). On a more realistic and real world level, maybe we should just stop doing anything or even stop praying for our country to rid of corrupted government. Ain't those judging too?

And please, I am not saying Luke is wrong to say that, he got everything right in his own way. Just do not abused what he said.

Lets say, you sees something that is not right in the house of God and it is affecting Christian and being label as 'Christians believers are so fake', so you do what you can to try to change this perception by bringing this up to the churches/pastor and you are being label for breaking one of so called 'christian rule of not judging others'. In the end of the day you come face to face with God during judgment day. Tell me, do you think God is going to punish you for judging in this case? Yes? No? We have to apply our rationality in the believe in God and not being afraid of another Christian accusing you of judging other with the wrong reason.

Yes, we are NOT looking for perfection in Christian believer. So please, please stop assume that we are. As in my post #290 page 15,

QUOTE(Blindspot61 @ Feb 23 2016, 04:27 PM)
Example, A study engineering and B no between he didn't attend classes. So, shouldn't we expect A to understand basic engineering subject better than B? Thats my logic.

A goes to churches without fail while B no. Shouldn't we expect A to have at least know some basic knowledge of how to carry oneself or 'the way of life' to be a Christian. I am not talking about able to recite the whole book of Matthew or John for that matter.
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We are only expecting them to be at least 1 step above us in their moral, behavior and conduct because being a frequent church goer or a leader in church, its their utmost responsibility to bearing witness to the rest out there. Ignore those and it will give Christianity a bad name which is sadly happening.
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post Feb 26 2016, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 26 2016, 09:18 PM)
I SEE ANIME DISCUSSION

This season you must watch Boku dake ga Inai Machi a.k.a Erased a.k.a Bokumachi.

Best Mystery anime this season. Every episode will leave you wanting to see the next ep. It'll be 12 episodes too. Very short.
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Ah, serious? I go check and it better be good. . . . tongue.gif
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post Feb 26 2016, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Blindspot61 @ Feb 26 2016, 09:59 PM)
Ah, serious? I go check and it better be good. . . .  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Feb 26 2016, 12:40 PM)
Maybe you can follow Dragon ball series? latest series ongoing Dragon Ball Super on my watch list too
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Dragon ball and the like kind of drama is not my cup of tea, though. Don't know how to appreciate it.

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