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post May 19 2021, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ May 18 2021, 05:13 PM)
Million dollar question 🙋‍♂️

What should we do during hyperinflation? Hold stocks? But knowing it will crash one day and hope we are not the last one in the musical chair game? I have not been into such phase in my life
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invest in stashaway or ETFs laugh.gif
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post May 19 2021, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Kadaj @ May 18 2021, 11:22 PM)
The question is, what assets?
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Now we have gone from a simplified statement to an open debate. smile.gif

QUOTE(wayton @ May 19 2021, 09:19 AM)
Banking stock may benefit from inflation.
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As the topic is hyperinflation, we already have a real world example for stocks.
When I hear hyperinflation, I think Zimbabwe. Look at ZSE (Zimbabwe Stock Exchange). You'd think everyone got rich.
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post May 19 2021, 12:21 PM

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I still believe we are heading towards stagflation rather than inflation
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post May 19 2021, 12:28 PM

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post May 19 2021, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ May 19 2021, 12:14 PM)
Wow look at bitcoin. Dropped to 40k already. Market crashing soon?
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It will affect stock market too. Especially tech stocks somehow related to coins price
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post May 19 2021, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ May 19 2021, 12:30 PM)
It will affect stock market too. Especially tech stocks somehow related to coins price
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What I am afraid is the economy crisis given the inflation rate cry.gif
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post May 19 2021, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 18 2021, 05:45 PM)
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 19 2021, 08:20 AM)
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Thanks uncle biggrin.gif
have to slowly adjust my style of investing trading technique sweat.gif
Indeed here is a good place for exchanging views and insights rclxm9.gif always great to view in different lens of others
But what goes down will comes up. sunset for reits today will be another sunrise for reits in few years time

QUOTE(HereToLearn @ May 19 2021, 09:25 AM)
I am in O&G. We are not having a lot of new exploration projects for now.
Gold and Silver?
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I'm looking forward to gold backed cryptocurrency using smart contract. no need to break down of physical gold as it is stored in london, sg or US, flexible and reliable payment method. perfect storage of wealth and usage as currency

QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 19 2021, 10:47 AM)
Judging one self objectively ... that's the most difficult thing in the stock market (in regardless whether one is punting, speculating, investing or trading)
failure to do so means one is never gonna to admit perhaps one is wrong.

which leads to whole lot of issues...
and ultimately leads to huge losses in the market...

for example...
they punted on the wrong stock (worst thing, it's not even their own stock pick, it's something they picked up in the forum ie a tip) ....
stock goes south ....
they do not acknowledge the mistake...
they then turn to find reasons why that wrong stock could be a good stock to hold long term...
in which... they turn a blind eye on whatever reason why that stock is a wrong stock pick...
they hold and hold...
and worst still, in cases, they compound this error by buying more of the stock...
they don't even admit that they are averaging down (or buying more of their initial mistake) ...
they use phrases such as the deadly 'dollar cost averaging'.....
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Yes, if wrong, then it is wrong, no point for sulking. therefore always stanby cash aside for emergency fund because you don't know when you'll be needing it

QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 19 2021, 11:36 AM)
I saw a youtube video before. Hyperinflation rarely affect normals because nobody gives money to the poor. Instead banks will continue lending to the rich, and where does the money goes into? Properties, stocks, crypto, etc. As long as the returns beat the lowly 1-2% interest rate, they will continue doing that. Meanwhile the poor will just look and wow... at those price hike... unable to do anything about it.
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I think property will be a lilt stagnant in Malaysia. Singapore maybe a better place to speculate on properties. by the way, BTC just crashed, with a big surprise

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post May 19 2021, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ May 19 2021, 12:21 PM)
I still believe we are heading towards stagflation rather than inflation
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it could be, depends on how US fed playing the balancing game
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QUOTE(squarepilot @ May 19 2021, 01:22 PM)
Thanks uncle biggrin.gif
have to slowly adjust my style of investing trading technique  sweat.gif
Indeed here is a good place for exchanging views and insights rclxm9.gif  always great to view in different lens of others
But what goes down will comes up. sunset for reits today will be another sunrise for reits in few years time
I'm looking forward to gold backed cryptocurrency using smart contract. no need to break down of physical gold as it is stored in london, sg or US, flexible and reliable payment method. perfect storage of wealth and usage as currency
Yes, if wrong, then it is wrong, no point for sulking. therefore always stanby cash aside for emergency fund because you don't know when you'll be needing it 
I think property will be a lilt stagnant in Malaysia. Singapore maybe a better place to speculate on properties. by the way, BTC just crashed, with a big surprise
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Mini crash has been a little too frequent lately.

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QUOTE(Duckies @ May 19 2021, 12:41 PM)
What I am afraid is the economy crisis given the inflation rate cry.gif
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focus more on commodity,gold counter? hmm.gif
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post May 19 2021, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ May 19 2021, 01:22 PM)
Thanks uncle biggrin.gif
have to slowly adjust my style of investing trading technique  sweat.gif
Indeed here is a good place for exchanging views and insights rclxm9.gif  always great to view in different lens of others
But what goes down will comes up. sunset for reits today will be another sunrise for reits in few years time

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Re reits. It's just an example of how bad it can get if you buy the reits, simply cos the yield is super duper. Take CMMT (again tongue.gif)

In 2017.... one could have blindly bought the fella at 1.70+... 8.43 sen dpu. Not bad what. A 4.9% yield.

Since then.. Total Dpu collected till today only...... 25.3 sen.

Stock price now? 62.5sen.

At such losses, how long you think you want to hold and collect dividends?

Buying the wrong REIT can die one la....

Same with stocks. Dividends are just bonus. Nothing more.

And if profits slide, share will fall... and the dividends would not
help much.




Back to Hart.....laugh.gif

It was averaging around 450 million profit per year.

Thanks to c19, latest profit soared to 2.9 billion....


So.. how would project the net profit per year for the next 5 years?



Ps.. important question ler. ....

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post May 19 2021, 03:12 PM

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6xxx daily cases. fast run
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post May 19 2021, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(frank0725 @ May 19 2021, 03:12 PM)
6xxx daily cases. fast run
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Full MCO soon? Bursa gonna be like March 2020?
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QUOTE(Duckies @ May 19 2021, 03:29 PM)
Full MCO soon? Bursa gonna be like March 2020?
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still remember DG said it will be 2 digit in may, now 4 digits.

anyway, due to 2 weeks incubation, all the action will be lagged/ineffective terribly.

just quarantine all the weak/vulnerable/fearful and let the world move on would have been a far greater solution.
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post May 19 2021, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(frank0725 @ May 19 2021, 03:12 PM)
6xxx daily cases. fast run
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yet to peak... likely 8,000 a day.

full lockdown coming.

stay home, dun get sick.

if u do, no hospital to go to now.
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QUOTE(lowya @ May 19 2021, 03:32 PM)
still remember DG said it will be 2 digit in may, now 4 digits.

anyway, due to 2 weeks incubation, all the action will be lagged/ineffective terribly.

just quarantine all the weak/vulnerable/fearful and let the world move on would have been a far greater solution.
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I foresee the cases will keep increasing since Selangor is doing mass testing + India variant + Raya cluster. This looks bleak to our bursa. Bitcoin is doing badly today as well. At this point it already dipped below the support and now at 39k cry.gif
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QUOTE(frank0725 @ May 19 2021, 03:12 PM)
6xxx daily cases. fast run
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Alr run in the morning smile.gif

Scgm surged 6.x%, seems like operator’s doing or something, i exit at 2.25. Tguan been on uptrend since March, i also exit at 2.73.

Mobilised my reserves for the attack
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QUOTE(BliitzkrieG @ May 18 2021, 03:46 PM)

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what are the glove shorts so far today?! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 19 2021, 03:37 PM)
what are the glove shorts so far today?! tongue.gif
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current short for TG 1,921,700. it was only less than 1mill before 230pm.
guess they try to suppress it real hard when the number of cases was announced which leads to huge buying volume.
increased by 400k units compared to yesterday biggrin.gif
harta 522,300
spmx 31,600
kossan - 0

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QUOTE(BliitzkrieG @ May 19 2021, 04:30 PM)
current short for TG 1,921,700. it was only less 1mill before 230pm.
increased by 400k units compared to yesterday  biggrin.gif
harta 522,300
spmx 31,600
kossan - 0
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thanks for info!

4 gloves shorts paper gain now close to zero.

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