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post Oct 27 2020, 11:29 AM

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Question is whether there will be huge selldown for Harta irrespective of super impressive results just like Supermax and TG. Well this is bursino

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post Nov 2 2020, 04:13 PM

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KLCI index is now green. most of the blue chip recovered. but not Healthcare
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post Nov 9 2020, 10:47 PM

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This vaccine news game is strong this time. Guess everyone is going to dump glove stocks tmrw. Just like mercator. Down by 24%

Vaccine is not going to be effective till next year. Everything will not be back to normal till next year but well, that's people's mindset. They thought this vaccine will led to normal life again immediately

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post Nov 9 2020, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Nov 9 2020, 11:01 PM)
Yup. Sadly the market is rule by emotion first rationality later. To be honest vaccine roll out under best case scenario also fy2022 already and in the process many gloves will still be used.

Stand strong, understand your fundamental and you will be able to weather the storm and perhaps pick up some bargain that is below intrinsic value. But i still feel glove is cyclical and situational extraordinary profit with many new player crowding in.
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Been holding tight despite many storms and hurricane. Emergency drama, politicking, windfall tax. Was just about to see clear sky (this morning and no thanks to budget debate) but now this vaccine news. Lol.

On a side note, other Asian stock market has been green and rising quite lately following DJI but KLCI is the other way round due to uncertainties in politics. πŸ˜•πŸ˜•πŸ˜•
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post Nov 9 2020, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(Deathscythe@@ @ Nov 9 2020, 11:12 PM)
Vaccine news + DSAI + MCO 2.0 might be the ultimate blow.πŸ€•
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MCO is always good for HC / glove 😁
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post Nov 10 2020, 11:48 PM

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Guess bull run has lost its steam. Vaccine hype is over. Mercator strong rebound from - 8% to 0 now.
Glove counters have hope and rebound tomorrow 😁
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post Nov 11 2020, 04:52 PM

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Appreciate Supermax and TG close green considering Mercator closed red and the weakening Pfizer vaccine hype. Should be recovering and back to uptrend provided there's no political issues coming up
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post Nov 11 2020, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 11 2020, 05:00 PM)
my observation on gloves today... under selling pressure for much of the day.

TG... 13mil or 1/4 shares were traded at 7.64-7.65 over 2 blardy hours.... and nobody moves! biggrin.gif

but can't tell if it is just EPF managers selling/buying with each other as their daily usual.

it was only the last 5 min,  and i m sure, SBB came in to push it back to 7.86.

good news is supermax's been following TG's que, so OK.

harta was dumped until -3.8%... terrible. biggrin.gif
TG's SBB yesterday and today could be indication that QR next month for Sep-Nov will be spectacular again... PAT >rm1.8 bil, my guess.
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Yup I saw 1 mill queue at 7.6. Could be SBB or EPF. TG has always been relying on SBB / EPF to push it up.
Supermax on the other hand doesnt rely on these two.

TG's estimated QR should be this month. Correct me if im wrong, based on circulated prediction on QR release which is quite accurate for Harta and Supermax. Guess TG is waiting for the right and good sentiment to release the QR
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post Nov 12 2020, 05:02 PM

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Mercator +22.00 (+4.38%)

Hopefully its a green day for glove counters tomorrow.
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post Nov 12 2020, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 12 2020, 06:10 PM)
mercator is not the best gauge but may give an indication about european sentiments.

now +8%.
maybe due to IEA comment:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/12/iea-says-co...-some-time.html
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Yup, but Mercator has been referred as an indicator recently.

Still its good enough and as long as its not red, then it doesn't add up to the bad sentiment that its piling up. Hopefully glove counters will be green tmrw.

Been confident cos I don't trust the vaccine. Taking it as a hoax and for their own gains. Otherwise Pfizer CEO wouldn't sell. Maybe I'm just a glove fanboy haha. But I trust the fundamentals of these counters. Just gotto be patient.
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post Nov 16 2020, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Nov 16 2020, 12:27 PM)
I am still holding glove stocks but I have not averaged down yet. Too early to average down.

Look at Careplus for e.g. Now dropped to RM2.860 (-RM5.92%) or Supermax at RM8.330 (-5.01%).

Looks like the market has moved on to recovery theme in anticipation of the vaccine early next year.

So what recovery stocks will benefit? Airline, hospitality and tourism? Genting and GenM have been going strong for a week. Genting now up about +8%. AAX up about +9.09%. Banking stocks are also green since last week. What about REITS?
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At the same time IB is hedging glove counters.
Pressing down mother shares as their warrants are expiring Nov and Dec.

You can compare with Sri Trang Glove Thailand currently up +5.32%
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post Nov 16 2020, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Nov 16 2020, 12:40 PM)
Why are TG & SPMX's warrants top losers? That C-something. I'm not sure what it's called actually. How does banks pressing down warrants benefit them? I thought if mother share goes up, better for warrants to be exercised?
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Put it this way. .If mother share drops, warrant drops as well. Let say TG C81 previously was close to RM1 and now its RM0.415. Upon maturity (expiry), banks will have to pay out RM0.415 per unit instead of RM1.
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post Nov 16 2020, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Nov 16 2020, 12:36 PM)
Mercator drop 6.74%?
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When Mercator went up by 6%, malaysia glove counters was still in red. Well we shall see Mercator's price in the evening later when they're open.
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post Nov 17 2020, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Nov 17 2020, 04:47 PM)
Survey time. Do you all think big 4 gloves can reach previous high? Why?

For me, I think not really possible. Gloves still can earn high ASPs supernormal profit. But DY cant beat banks. So, some will switch/already have switched frm gloves to banks. When glove companies surged frm June-Sep, they were making good profits while other companies suffered losses. Now, market is gradually getting more confident in recovery companies. I still believe gloves can have high ASP profits and this sell-off is irrational. But the interest for gloves may have started its decline.
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Depending on how soon the vaccine hype last. 1 lockdown will crash it again or if Peninsular is becoming like Sabah.
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post Nov 18 2020, 07:54 PM

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Did you guys see at 440pm where there is 1.2m for sale by the IB at RM7.00 and it was wiped off by Tan Sri haha. IBs are desperately trying to make it close below RM7 but they failed big time
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post Nov 27 2020, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(angkhian @ Nov 27 2020, 03:32 PM)
Any particular explanation as of why Gloves are red today?
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Panic sale as our PM will be giving another press conference on vaccine update. Speechless
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post Nov 27 2020, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(angkhian @ Nov 27 2020, 03:52 PM)
Haiyo, how many times need to go through the vaccine scare.
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Its just typical Malaysian retailers. As if we are going to receive the vaccine and everything will recover.
But lets just thank them for us to pick up cheaper tickets

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post Nov 27 2020, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Nov 27 2020, 04:03 PM)
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/cgsc...ery-theme-plays
β€œLocal institutional investors were buying banks and Genting Bhd [while] selling glove makers. Last week’s fund flows revealed that local institutional [investors] increased their net buy flows by 34% w-o-w and raised their net exposure to Malaysian banks and Genting,” it said in a strategy report yesterday. 

Retail investors continued to be the largest net sellers of Malaysian banks and Genting, and ploughed back some of these funds into rubber glove players
Local institutional investors were selling, not retailers.
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Mostly EPF. Can see EPF dispose 9m units of Top Glove last Friday and Monday itself.
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post Nov 28 2020, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Nov 28 2020, 06:35 PM)
One thing I dun und is why he wan to hentam. Previously he promote, maybe cos he wan us to buy, so he can unload at high price. This still can understand.

But now he already unload, so why he wan hentam? I dun get it. Unless he wan to bring the price down again so he can buy in?
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He could be silently collecting again knowing that AT will rise like Solution (from 20 cents till 1.270) once they start producing glove. Why so free wanna hantam AT when he already did
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post Nov 30 2020, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 30 2020, 05:08 PM)
superman did get last minute rm110mil buy at 9.10.

dunno if it was switched from banks as TG also saw last minute rm160mil dumped at 7.12.
interesting times.... biggrin.gif
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EPF have been dumping heavily lately. Very hard for TG to fly without Tan Sri SBB. Lets wait for the report today at 6pm whether EPF dispose and Tan Sri SBB

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