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andrekua2
post May 6 2021, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ May 5 2021, 11:49 PM)
The moment has arrived for gloves, officially. Spmx showed slight decline in both revenue & profits while Harta has slowing growth, but still is growth.

Analysts have continued cutting target prices for gloves. I still have 2, but it will be a bitter pill to swallow for some time. My guess is that, the final nail in the coffin would be downgrading a "buy" to a "hold" in the coming months.

Of course the share price will fluctuate wildly like how fast it rose & how fast it dropped this week. But the downward bias is likely to be stronger. Perhaps only brave, tough or crazy ones dare enter glove share trading now.
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Harta is special which cant be used to compare to the rest except YTY because they are more towards nitrile gloves which is selling way higher than rubber gloves. Moreover Harta is still completing ngc1.0 (plant7) currently which adds to additional capacity as we speak. Harta price is more palatable now that it has increased dividends to 16c.
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post May 6 2021, 09:20 AM

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post May 6 2021, 09:45 AM

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Just realized EPF disposing all the way since April for glove stock.
They would have know first hand on their operations and ASP/margins.

Sometime too stuck in a bubble didn't realized danger till its too late.
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post May 6 2021, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(Ryosuke_82 @ May 4 2021, 11:52 AM)
Investing is like fishing, rileks je.
My TP queued at 6.2. Once hit auto sell.
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Ok good to know. hope your auto sell works laugh.gif
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post May 6 2021, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 5 2021, 08:01 PM)
This statement...

"The glove prices have since dropped by between 15% and 25%. Currently, the spot market prices are lower than the contracted prices," said the rubber glove maker in its quarterly results' announcement.

Link:

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/node/566687

Wow... Which more the less confirmed JPM statement.

Well... I think they deserve credit for pointing this issue out...
And more credit who called for the gal from Macquarie who called for the falling ASP many months ago.
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Then why the macquarie gal say TG can hit rm60 at the first place?

Giving a right advice at a wrong time is a wrong and misleading advice
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post May 6 2021, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ May 6 2021, 10:02 AM)
Then why the macquarie gal say TG can hit rm60 at the first place?

Giving a right advice at a wrong time is a wrong and misleading advice
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they gv a high TP so they can sell, likewise when they gv a low TP they are playing short.
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post May 6 2021, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ May 6 2021, 09:45 AM)
Just realized EPF disposing all the way since April for glove stock.
They would have know first hand on their operations and ASP/margins.

Sometime too stuck in a bubble didn't realized danger till its too late.
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Err.... this article gave the biggest of hint...

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/glov...concerns-linger

dated 16th April....

JP Morgan, however, sees downside risks for the glove sector on lower average selling price (ASP).

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Its analyst Jeffrey Ng and YY Cheah said in a report yesterday that glove ASPs have hit an inflection point earlier than markets have expected as glove companies have guided to Nitrile May 2021 ASP of US$90-95/1000, 17% to 22% lower than the peak ASP in January 2021.


For them to come out and state categorially that glove makers have guided lower prices send such a massive warning that high growth should be ending soon.....

It's a bold statement. If that was a lie, it would effectively have branded JPM research as a bunch of liars!

This wasn't about how they derive the silly 3.50 price.

It was all about the glove makers telling JPM specifically that lower prices are dead ahead.

A 22% decline in Nitrile prices compared to a Jan, it's a massive decline and would hurt profits badly for the glove makers.

Big statement for me... which is why I even went out the length and check some online prices on Lazada/Shopee which somewhat confirms the point that lower selling prices can be seen. Even TopGlove own shop on Lazada offered a 5% discount on its own gloves. wink.gif

But sadly.... I guess some folks simply are wired that anything associated with JPM means Mat Pendek, which meant that whatever comes out from JPM is nothing but a conspiracy to drive the stock price lower.





p/s TG own lau pan stopped buying his own company shares on ........................................ 31st March 2021. Yet another thing to ponder upon.......


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post May 6 2021, 10:14 AM

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Bursa red red...is this they May bomb sky is talking about?
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post May 6 2021, 10:22 AM

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God Bless Gloves...
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post May 6 2021, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ May 6 2021, 10:14 AM)
Bursa red red...is this they May bomb sky is talking about?
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glove bubble popping
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post May 6 2021, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ May 6 2021, 10:02 AM)
Then why the macquarie gal say TG can hit rm60 at the first place?

Giving a right advice at a wrong time is a wrong and misleading advice
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That's a simple way to solve such issues...


Stop playing stocks that is widely covered by analysts... devil.gif


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post May 6 2021, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 6 2021, 10:23 AM)
glove bubble popping
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Even recovery stocks not doing very well hmm.gif
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post May 6 2021, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ May 6 2021, 10:26 AM)
Even recovery stocks not doing very well  hmm.gif
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as long as no parliament or new government it won't go up la. Just HODL
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post May 6 2021, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ May 6 2021, 10:02 AM)
Then why the macquarie gal say TG can hit rm60 at the first place?

Giving a right advice at a wrong time is a wrong and misleading advice
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btw... here's something to ponder.

when they were giving those high prices... got ppl complain ah?
when they started giving low prices .......... ppl only complain?


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post May 6 2021, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 6 2021, 10:31 AM)
btw... here's something to ponder.

when they were giving those high prices... got ppl complain ah?
when they started giving low prices .......... ppl only complain?
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glove bears did complained ah. many noises here biggrin.gif
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post May 6 2021, 10:35 AM

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Trading / investing if you want to enjoy the upside must always be ready to take the potential down turn as well.

If only want upside no downside better put into FD. Everything got its risk / reward ratio i guess.

When down time hit, it will really test your conviction for the stock and also your thesis / reason of buying it.

For me i got no confidence for supermax long term wise, i sell it the first thing this morning just to avoid further losses.
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 6 2021, 10:26 AM)
That's a simple way to solve such issues...
Stop playing stocks that is widely covered by analysts...  devil.gif
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If really wanna play, play with dataprp 😈
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post May 6 2021, 10:40 AM

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wow bursa just went down into the drain..
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post May 6 2021, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(daidragon12 @ May 6 2021, 10:39 AM)
If really wanna play, play with dataprp 😈
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play with spiders, cannot?
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post May 6 2021, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ May 6 2021, 10:40 AM)
wow bursa just went down into the drain..
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time to deploy

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