QUOTE(zstan @ Apr 16 2020, 11:53 AM)
STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V150
STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V150
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Apr 17 2020, 12:04 AM
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Apr 17 2020, 08:59 AM
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Apr 17 2020, 09:32 AM
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Apr 17 2020, 09:36 AM
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Apr 17 2020, 10:01 AM
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Apr 17 2020, 10:14 AM
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but with 98 and 08 crisis, the rebound lasted a month of two before going further to south. Will history repeat?
especially when everyone is so optimistic about the market right now, i'm a bit scared to be honest. but again, we'll have to take the known factors like covid and modern information transmission into accounts. hell freaking confusing. |
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Apr 17 2020, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Apr 17 2020, 09:32 AM) Bear temporarily drowned by flooding of QE and stimulus rain... QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Apr 17 2020, 10:14 AM) but with 98 and 08 crisis, the rebound lasted a month of two before going further to south. Will history repeat? This time of crash came in way way faster than last time, so it also bounces as fast. especially when everyone is so optimistic about the market right now, i'm a bit scared to be honest. but again, we'll have to take the known factors like covid and modern information transmission into accounts. hell freaking confusing. Last time, drop 1-3% per day. 3% was already considered big move. While this time, dropped 7~8% per day. 1 to 2 weeks already dropped more than 20% already. |
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Apr 17 2020, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 17 2020, 10:24 AM) Bear temporarily drowned by flooding of QE and stimulus rain... U still believe bear will come?This time of crash came in way way faster than last time, so it also bounces as fast. Last time, drop 1-3% per day. 3% was already considered big move. While this time, dropped 7~8% per day. 1 to 2 weeks already dropped more than 20% already. |
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Apr 17 2020, 10:29 AM
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.
green flood today. no chance to average down before salary day liao |
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Apr 17 2020, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 17 2020, 10:24 AM) Bear temporarily drowned by flooding of QE and stimulus rain... ya, and we did keep dropping since 2018. non-stop kena gaogao because of political moves.This time of crash came in way way faster than last time, so it also bounces as fast. Last time, drop 1-3% per day. 3% was already considered big move. While this time, dropped 7~8% per day. 1 to 2 weeks already dropped more than 20% already. |
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Apr 17 2020, 10:41 AM
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Apr 17 2020, 10:47 AM
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Apr 17 2020, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Apr 17 2020, 10:47 AM) Shorting at current market is suicide mission... especially in US market. IDSS is not a problem. Margin call selling was more pronounced during the crash and often margin call selling sunk the share price way deeper, to get out no matter what price. Having said that, there are pocket of worrysome issues needs to be watch out. The extreme low oil price and potential NPL rise for banks. Watchout highly geared companies as well, yesterday, there was a news at Sg about a big oil trading company facing liquidity issue, when banks reluctant to issue LC as last time. It is not a total bull market. But a rebound from extreme bottom. It may go flattish or range bound afterwards, as recovery takes sometimes. Watch the oil price, it provides the ultimate barometer about the world economy and recovery. Stock selective is the key going forward. |
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Apr 17 2020, 11:02 AM
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Apr 17 2020, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Apr 17 2020, 11:02 AM) what makes you said that? has everything been factored in? this is the question i keep asking myself Big crash often due to fear of unknown, currently there is little unknown factor. 1. Pandemic effect - known 2. GDP shrink - known One big key factor or problem for bear camp, is Fed and stimulus money, those come in trillions. Almost "buy up" half the economy. Fed has unlimited QE + US 2 trillion stimulus. The entire US economy size is about 20+ trillions. |
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Apr 17 2020, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 17 2020, 11:12 AM) Big crash often due to fear of unknown, currently there is little unknown factor. I thought so too, for the bear to be back will take another 6-8 months at least. Not anytime soon.1. Pandemic effect - known 2. GDP shrink - known One big key factor or problem for bear camp, is Fed and stimulus money, those come in trillions. Almost "buy up" half the economy. Fed has unlimited QE + US 2 trillion stimulus. The entire US economy size is about 20+ trillions. |
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Apr 17 2020, 12:34 PM
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