Mostly because GC accepts cash as well. Uber more quality more locals because need to use card. No card no Uber.

Foreign people use cards as well but their phone number is other countries. So sometime you can't find them because you can't call or they don't call you. Then rider do not show up, then he beep you again. lol

Not the tourist. More like the workers/"students".

A lot in KD area which is where i operate mostly.

will do!

GC opens to anyone as its cash basis.
so anyone can request, but bare in mind.
nowdays taxi driver is doing alot of fake request and they will SS your details and spam into their groups.
u will tend to have some asswipes during GC session (dirty idiots and sometimes just chuck rubbish in the car)
the goodthing bout GC is, you know where you going and how much you getting.
downside is.. there's too many drivers already!

Uber have quality riders, but the downside is.
you dont know where ure going.
but the goodside is, theres surge.. and civilised riders.
mostly mid to higher income level and angmohs.

this issue mostly happens in Uber.
as thre's only 1 number allowed to register.
for uber riders, 90% is genuine. just give them some time - 5-10mins waiting, else just cancel with no show.
(typically, uber riders is at the location/guardhouse or lobby when they request. so no issue.
unlike GC riders (africans mostly), they will take 20-30mins to come down and you need to call them and treat them like a king.
whenever i get an african riders, ill just cancel. enough is enough. 95% is asswipe, while only 5% is good ones)

go puchong.
sri kembangan.
kepong.

hahaha ull be surprised.
expecially on Sunday 11am - 3pm.

Thanks for the tip. Will avoid these areas.

http://www.thestar.com.my/metro/community/...t-from-cabbies/


This just in

What to do. Monkeys will always just be monkeys.

omg.. so many cases happen daily..

KL taxi uncle wanna be French Stye ?

Uncle ,u can drive van/lorry ,peace

This post has been edited by SupermanLick: Apr 14 2016, 03:03 PM

Hi guys,

After trying full time uber for more than 1 month, more than 300 trips , i have concluded that it is not profitable for a car which has 1500cc and above. For smaller car such as axia, viva etc2, i am not sure but i think would be profitable. Reasons are as below:

- The rates are just to cheap and not worth it (only worth it during surge) with also minusing 25% uber fee compared to the cost you have to bear (i.e. car loan repayment, fuel, maintenance etc.). Malaysia road is full of potholes and are not friendly to heavy car users who wants to maintained their car in a good condition.I made a simple example as below:

a) I have calculated that daily (my average kilometer is 150-250km depending on location of the trips), hence my monthly mileage is more than 5,000km which comes the normal routine service each month.

b) My average weekly gross payout is approximately RM 1,000 including minimal incentives. (You do not get much if you meet the incentives quota).

Assuming in a month we have 4 weeks = RM 4,000. My estimated necessary cost in a month is as below:

1) Cost of Fuel RM 230 weekly x 4 = RM 920
2) Monthly loan repayment for car = RM 800
3) House rental and utilities = RM 500
4) Average car service cost = RM 300 (not includes any equipment or spare part changes due to wear and tear. i.e. tyre cost, suspension, brake pad, gearbox etc.)
5) Breakfast and or lunch RM 12 x 30 = RM 360
6) Touch and go RM50 weekly x 4 = RM 200
7) Monthly groceries = RM 250
8) Handphone plan = RM 100

TOTAL = RM 3,430

Please note that this cost does not include any wear and tear which eats up a lot. If your suspension is broken cost is estimate (RM500 - 1,000) depending on brand and type). Changing all tyres due to wear and tear (RM600 - 1000). Insurance and Road Tax yearly (RM 600 - 1,000)Also when more trips you made, you can see that the cushion of your sits are getting dirtier and the stiches are coming out hence you have to fork our for cleaning or clean your self.

Once you drive more and make it as a heavy duty you will see that it is less worth it to drive Uber as the rates are to cheap and not worth it. This is based on a 1,500cc cars only hence if you have lower CC car you can adjust accordingly.

My estimates at the top i try to put it at the average level which are not to high and not to low.

I have decided to do less Uber after i have seen this disadvantages. I would say that Uber makes a lot of money buy sucking it out from the Partners with the 25% fee which is ridiculously high when they do not carry the overheads:

- Own the asset. (All maintenance will be beared by Partner). Once a Partner realise this, they will not continue but new bloods will join in, hence they profit it.
- Minimum overheads. they dont even have a call centre. Only respond by email, which sometime took 1 day to respond. I have made a lot of complaints but none action was taken. They only care about the riders who rides it.

As a conclusion for me, they are abusing the partner with all this lucrative BS for us to work hard when they are gaining from all the work we do.

I would like to put more evidence but i have to continue my office work.

Unless Uber increases the fare, i dont think i will do it in a long run.

If you have any comments which you like to improve this writing is appreciated.

Thank you.

U wanna be a life us taxi driver ,ask the taxi uncle ,peace

Good comment. I was just trying as everyone was saying it was good money but after trying i dont think its worth it. If you are like taxi driver, (runs on NGV, low cost spare part and equipment) then you can make a living out of it.

Maybe u can try Grab

Wanted to but even with "civilized" uber rider trashing my car (throwing rubishes, mineral water, coming in the car sweating and wet, bringing pets, bringing huge flower pots which spoils the cushion, toxicated, reeks of alcohol and many more good experience) i dont think i want to take my chances with Grab. If it was a company car than it is a different story. I took very good care of my car but some of the rider just dont care. Most do care.

Thank you for the thoughts though.

PS:I wish new partners realise that if you drive a big car, than doing uber full time is just not worth it. Most of my friend has stop driving due to this issue only after calculating the cost in details. You need to remember if something happen to your car, engine kaput, gearbox kong, suspension, distorted rims etc2 which cost THOUSANDS. YOU WILL BEAR THAT ON YOUR OWN AND NONE OF UBERS CONCERN. THIS IS THE FALLBACK FOR MORE EXPENSIVE SPARE PARTS AND EQUIPMENT.

This post has been edited by ~hunter~: Apr 14 2016, 04:15 PM

Thank you for your comment.
In my opinion we should not include meal cost, car installment and house rental in profit calculation. Same like the permanent staff in office, I don't think staff A can request higher pay than staff B due to A pay higher rental and higher car installment.

imho, we should not include necessity living cost. Anyway we need to have meals everyday, need a roof, need to buy groceries and good to have a personal car (assuming driving to office to work).

1) Cost of Fuel RM 230 weekly x 4 = RM 920
4) Average car service cost = RM 300 (not includes any equipment or spare part changes due to wear and tear. i.e. tyre cost, suspension, brake pad, gearbox etc.)
6) Touch and go RM50 weekly x 4 = RM 200
8) Handphone plan = RM 100

So the extra cost from driving Uber is 1,520.
If add another 200 for extra wear and tear, total cost is 1,720.

monthly income = 4000-1720 = 2280.

may I know how many hours your drive in a month. Then we may have income/hour.

My previous rough calculation is 14.80/hr only.

Some experienced Uber/GC driver reported got more than that.

Thank you for the respond as well. I have incorporated both of those to have a feel that if you want to make it full time, you need to remember that balance money needs to pay your rent and food.

IMHO, Im just putting an example as many partners (my friends) forgot this. If you earn in an office RM 4,000 , you will earn much more comparing to earning 4,000 driving. Also wear and tear is definitely not RM 200 for bigger cc car after seeing the current condition of my car.

Anyway my average hours of driving weekly is 50 hours a week which is around 200 hours monthly.

My 2 cents.

This post has been edited by ~hunter~: Apr 14 2016, 04:38 PM

Hi,

monthly gross payout 4000, spend 200 hours, hourly income RM20.

I assume 4000 is after Uber fee 25%

after reading this, I feel it a bit risky to drive Uber/GC...
http://www.thestar.com.my/metro/community/...t-from-cabbies/

Yup, that is after 25% Uber fee. i wouldnt say RM 20 an hour as have to minus fuel and touch and go.

Agree that uber have better quality passengers. But the true story of a foreigner shit in the car is from an uber driver. So depends lah.

And my theory why uber has more quality customer because the customer have to use credit card to pay. So people who own credit card have more concern of his reputation and people who own credit card are not like some bangla who works at plantation or something.