If you want a no hassle, no worry kind of display - the Sony x930e is obviously the better choice. The equivalent model here is the x930e or more specifically modeled the x9300e here.

But then you will have to be willing to put up with the shortcomings of LCD technologies. Meaning no infinite blacks, mediocre viewing angles, haloing/clouding, uneven panel uniformity and just passable motion clarity. You're also most definitely paying more for the x930e than the C7 as Sony for whatever dumb reason doesn't want to lower the SRP of this model significantly. Basically you're paying more for inferior technology, eventhough its hassle free.

I have both TVs and I use them for different usages. A 65" C7 for movies only and the 55" x930e for games only. I understand that it sounds stupid to have 2 TVs for 2 different usages, but if you ask me which I would live with if I MUST only choose one - I'd definitely say the C7.

Samsung and their bullshit QLEDs can go eat out of their own anuses - at least for the 2017 models. They are promising FALD for their QLED this year's models, so we'll have to wait and see how that turns out.


Permanent burn-in no. LG warranty here does not cover.

IR will occur, there's no 2 ways about this. But thus far I have not encountered any permanent burn-in after owning my C7 for 7 months+.

I was at their launch event last year. When I queried why there isn't an x900e to bridge the RM7k budget cap, they give me a stink-eye and said because their so called "internal review" deemed this market (Malaysia) not a fitting one for this model. They probably have other reasons pertaining to logistics and economics, but my personal opinion is that it feels like they rather want to short change you with the inferior x800/850e series or you go all out and get a x930e. There is no in-between.

Anyways, let's not derail this into a Sony thread. The C7 has been discounted quite significantly in the last 2 months, so considering the 8 series isn't bringing any significant improvements in PQ - one SHOULD pick up the C7 for cheap in the next couple of months during the "warehouse clearing" sales.

I have several LG reps that told me about it personally. Salesmen are are salesmen, they are not the engineers working on product repairs.

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Did you even read the second last post in the previous page?

Been using my C7 65" for about 8 months as a PC monitor and also for movies/gaming. Temporary image retention is common, I've learned to deal with it. Permanent burn-in has yet to happen on my set and I play Tekken 7 on it almost everyday (static, bright yellow life bars on screen!).

So that should tell you something.

June is the current tentative launch month. LG won't tell you because they actually have way too many C7 and E7 left in stock. Watch for big clearance very soon or they'd be pricing the C8 much higher than expected.

As for your second question; doesn't work. HDMI ARC cannot bitstream DTSHD, DTSX, TrueHD or Atmos. Only eARC can transmit lossless codecs.

What I do is; all my sources are connected to the receiver, audio goes to speakers and video goes to TV.
As for Dolby Vision, it depends if your receiver can pass through DV or not. Mine can so everything just goes to it.

Simple connection = no problems. Basically the receiver is the hub (it's called a receiver for a reason, use it).

eARC should on paper fix all the issues ARC has and should actually work the way ARC was intentionally first designed. So let's hope that one works.

As for AVR, I think it's best to wait a little before you buy anything. 2018 models should be announced within a month or so, most midrange and high-end models should come with HDMI 2.1. Best to hold out for that.

Just saw the 55" C8 at Best Denki - selling for RM10k, 6% cash back (so RM9.4k).

The bigger models should be here by June.

Yes that's expected. Most people won't be able to afford the 77, so it's a bit unfortunate they aren't planning to bring it in. I'd probably upgrade to the 77 if they bring it in.

C7 55" exactly 1 year ago today was actually selling at RM9.7k in most places AFTER discount. C8 price at 9.3k is actually not as high as I expected it to be.

I know because it was exactly 1 year ago I sold my E6 for a C7 albeit 65" model.

The A8F and A1E are 2 different categories as far as Sony is concerned though? I mean, the A8F has a cheaper build quality out of the box, doesn't have that fancy unpractical stand. To Sony, the A1E is still their flagship OLED TV.

Technically the C8 although it's releasing at the same SRP as last year's C7, the C8's street price is already lower than that of the C7 at this time last year.

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I believe the 65C8 is going for around RM16k (street price), might be wrong on this though.

Anyways, the one glaring weakness I found with the A8F in comparison to the C8 is in EOTF tracking. The C8 tracks a lot better and only rolls off after 600 nits where as the A8F rolls off after 120 nits. Also the ABL on the A8F is just far too aggressive unless you watch in a pitch black room and have the ABL setting set to Low, but that will also in turn hurt specular highlights.

Other minor complaints include the somewhat high input lag (30ms) and the extremely shallow stand. I don't think the A8F is a good competitor to the C8 to be frank. Sure Sony's upscaling is still king and its enhancements over 8 bit content remains superior to the others, but I don't think its strength beats LG's.

On a second note, I can't wait for the Panasonic FZ800 and FZ950.

Yeah agreed. I feel that the only things Sony needs to do is to bring the input lag on its TVs down to sub 20ms and tame the ABL to be less aggressive. As it is right now, in Malaysia at least - there's no point buying an A8F when the C8 is cheaper.


That 55" at 8.5k is a display model unit.

So I was bullshitted by the promoter then.

There are only 2 things I wish Sony will improve on the AF8 (and it can be done so through firmware updates) and that is to lower the input lag as well as lower the aggressiveness of their ABL.

Do that and they'll be king for the RM9-10k 55" market.

As is it is now, the C8 does have the AF8 beaten IMO - the price difference is only a few hundred but the C8 simply has more pros over the AF8.

P/S And yeah, Android TV is just utter shit.

The soundbar isn't for you to use. The soundbar is for you to sell, which would bring down the price of the TV much more than any discount that can be offered by any store.

Anyways; the best 65" OLED TV in 2018 currently is the C8, overall speaking - in this market at least.

Panasonic OLEDs were crowned the best last year and for good reason, they offer the best balance of feature sets and calibration capabilities. If Panasonic brings in their FZ950 series here and price it competitively, I'm fairly certain it'll take top spots in most categories.

The Sony A8F at the moment is the cheapest, after all the discounts and what not. Great TV, but I've mentioned that it isn't great for gaming (over 30ms input lag is just barely acceptable) and the aggressive ABL is just a bit too much. It does have pros that neither LG nor Panasonic can match of course and that's in motion handling, upscaling and post-processing.

Best Denki MyTown had the 55" C7 at RM6339 in the last 2 weeks of May, during the whole "we absorb GST" campaign. No soundbar though.

I see. They didn't write it was for display unit last month IIRC. My bad.