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post Jan 15 2016, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Jan 15 2016, 10:03 AM)
when ever many ppl is expecting the bubble is going to burst.. it wont be burst, becase there are some ppl with the bullet ready to take over.

whenever many ppl is expecting the property is keep going up.

that time maybe is the time the bubble will burst. those say going to burst,, ask urself. is it yourself jealous or still waiting for time to buy??
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To be fair see which area, there are some area is a no go for me unless below 100k where 600.00 / mth rent can sustain.



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post Jan 15 2016, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Jan 15 2016, 10:03 AM)
when ever many ppl is expecting the bubble is going to burst.. it wont be burst, becase there are some ppl with the bullet ready to take over.

whenever many ppl is expecting the property is keep going up.

that time maybe is the time the bubble will burst. those say going to burst,, ask urself. is it yourself jealous or still waiting for time to buy??
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I Know ur are affected.. quit agent lor
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post Jan 15 2016, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 15 2016, 10:13 AM)
I Know ur are affected.. quit agent lor
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since when im a agent?

really funny la u... im affected?

also damm funny.....

please save your bullet,, ya, property bubble burst soon,

i heard this 5 years ago
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post Jan 15 2016, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Jan 15 2016, 10:12 AM)
To be fair see which area, there are some area is a no go for me unless below 100k where 600.00 / mth rent can sustain.
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ya u are right also. just buy if u really need to stay in, for example, u rent room 500

buy own stay installment 1.2k, you can proceed actually. rent 1 or 2 room out. you got own space, own house, you can do whatever you want.
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post Jan 15 2016, 11:31 AM

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holding power? let see how long can bleed 1.5k-2k per month...6 month edi 12k..nyummm3
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post Jan 15 2016, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 15 2016, 07:59 AM)
1 km from oug parklane to main road jln puchong is tiara mutiara 1 and tiara mutiara 2... so many units to0... before tiara mutera is sutera residence... occupancy not even 30% .. 2 years vp

the otherside of oug parklane is PPR flats just across the bridge... ppr flats is fully occupied.. while OUG parklane is not.. why? Pricey... ppr full occupancy... then z residence... leavez... rootz lar.. rainz lar...

these condos zzz...jln puchong gg..

furthet up a bit ... residensi 8... the entrance so small like kedai runcit.. adjacent dah banyak condi lain belakang kfc... same ting here again.. residensi 8 .. anytume got ppl rent and sell.. the other condo old ones like PPR fully occupied

along the stretch no need me to tok.. wat southank residence... dat tesco and studio...saville lar... cypress lar..opposite d mall.. I dun remember so many.. in dat stretch.. older highrise belum cakap.. puchong area belum cakap..

one common ting is dat.. newly finished suffers low occupancy.. reli low... PPPR.. flats all fully occupied.. either ppl have still waiting to buy.. or cant afford those merely 400k to 500k... if later is d issue.. cant afford.. property sure GG... cant rent.. cant sell.. potential buyers cant afford GG
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You are spot in the sense where a certain vicinity (in this example, Jalan puchong) is over crowded. But you also just answered the next concern, which is also directly related to density. Assume many can't hold anymore longer for 2016-2017, there are also many waiting to pounce, after pounce, back to square one, competing for rental again, then holding power shift to your side.

Another 2-3 years, another new group appear again say waiting for bubble burst again and the story continue.

I'd say again, too many people just aren't aware how the general Malaysians are well to do even in the current economy condition. Just remember you're not the only one with cash ready to pounce. After you pounce, make sure you also have holding power to compete for rental with the rest.

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QUOTE(netboy @ Jan 15 2016, 01:03 PM)
You are spot in the sense where a certain vicinity (in this example, Jalan puchong) is over crowded. But you also just answered the next concern, which is also directly related to density. Assume many can't hold anymore longer for 2016-2017, there are also many waiting to pounce, after pounce, back to square one, competing for rental again, then holding power shift to your side.

Another 2-3 years, another new group appear again say waiting for bubble burst again and the story continue.

I'd say again, too many people just aren't aware how the general Malaysians are well to do even in the current economy condition. Just remember you're not the only one with cash ready to pounce. After you pounce, make sure you also have holding power to compete for rental with the rest.
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wow... investment carries risk...

property investment carries risk as well....

in this part... investment is further coupled with excessive speculation ... got money ppl would want to profit and not get stuck like OUG parklane and pay loan (despite they can afford)...

the objective of investment is gain as fast as they can and move on... older units going you know where the market going...

when you see semenyih start building high rise.. sure we know it is GG...

useless to talk my version and yours... results are more important... of course the owners/investors who service loans and agents with low sales majority will know...
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post Jan 15 2016, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Jan 15 2016, 11:31 AM)
holding power? let see how long can bleed 1.5k-2k per month...6 month edi 12k..nyummm3
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1.5k to 2k per month is so low... the properties investors are holding are around regions of 2.5k to 3k type high rise...

plus maintenance 300 to 400...

they hold many units ya...
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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Jan 15 2016, 11:18 AM)
ya u are right also. just buy if u really need to stay in, for example, u rent room 500

buy own stay installment 1.2k, you can proceed actually. rent 1 or 2 room out. you got own space, own house, you can do whatever you want.
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the existing owners also cant rent out whole unit like OUG parklane for 900 .. 3 rooms.. ini satu bilik 500... slim chanci..

there are still positive vibes of renting out... owayls remember what if cannot rent out?
what if can rent out and you do not like the tenant?
what happen to privacy?
talk only... ask you rent out with other ppl see you want or not..

all these risks factors are due to excessive speculation on property... now banks taikor not playing along... dat is the problem

i suggest agency fees drop to 1% flat...

GS Realty?

This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Jan 15 2016, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 15 2016, 02:49 PM)
wow... investment carries risk...

property investment carries risk as well....

in this part... investment is further coupled with excessive speculation ... got money ppl would want to profit and not get stuck like OUG parklane and pay loan (despite they can afford)...

the objective of investment is gain as fast as they can and move on... older units going you know where the market going...

when you see semenyih start building high rise.. sure we know it is GG...

useless to talk my version and yours... results are more important... of course the owners/investors who service loans and agents with low sales majority will know...
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Yup, you are right. Good luck to those who are waiting for dead chickens. I know some have been waiting for almost 4-5 years.

Patience is important, but having an eye for rare gem is key. Good luck all smile.gif
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QUOTE(takadanicklagi @ Jan 15 2016, 08:20 AM)
Yeah. Older one higher occupancy. I would say pre R8 period apartment are OK. Post R8 quite empty.
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coz of the price for sale in R8 and the expected rental rates...

older ones cheaper maa... actually by investors logic... older properties should be more expensive... coz property goes up every minute according to them
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QUOTE(netboy @ Jan 15 2016, 02:55 PM)
Yup, you are right. Good luck to those who are waiting for dead chickens. I know some have been waiting for almost 4-5 years.

Patience is important, but having an eye for rare gem is key. Good luck all smile.gif
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do not think property investment like crony project like highway... must profit ... those are big corp and political powered... even new developements they work with banks sure 90% loan..

we are talking about individuals here... high rise in semenyih cost 400k to 500k... very right and good move one...

they believe semenyih will become 'setia alam" wor...
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post Jan 15 2016, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 15 2016, 02:52 PM)
the existing owners also cant rent out whole unit like OUG parklane for 900 .. 3 rooms.. ini satu bilik 500... slim chanci..

there are still positive vibes of renting out... owayls remember what if cannot rent out?
what if can rent out and you do not like the tenant?
what happen to privacy?
talk only... ask you rent out with other ppl see you want or not..

all these risks factors are due to excessive speculation on property... now banks taikor not playing along... dat is the problem

i suggest agency fees drop to 1% flat...

GS Realty?
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actually kan, would you mind to share how many properties u holding in hand,
so look like u keep bashing only.

if not mistaken i saw ur posting in semenyih project since 1 years ago.

but still not yet burst,, 1 years ago bash till now.. not boring??

or you are the 1 holding bullets hoping for dead chicken to take?

just my 2cent
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post Jan 15 2016, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Jan 15 2016, 03:03 PM)
actually kan, would you mind to share how many properties u holding in hand,
so look like u keep bashing only.

if not mistaken i saw ur posting in semenyih project since 1 years ago.

but still not yet burst,, 1 years ago bash till now.. not boring??

or you are the 1 holding bullets hoping for dead chicken to take?

just my 2cent
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i poorfag lar.. where got property holding...

i tell you u rent one unit OUG parklane stay there.. rent a room 4 me .. i pay rm550 ok?

"tepuk dada, tanya selera"

very soon from .. those untenanted or low tenancy has few options... sell cheaepr ( most likely not)... or rent out

renting out to negroes.... middle east... create new society there..

that is how sunway mentari become a foreigner place... connaught avenue become nigger places , mahkota cheras become nigger places.koi kinranra...koi troika..one south by huayang... and the hole stretch towards southcity plaza..and etc... who allows it to be rented? the owners lor

you want to share same lift with negro? cannot simply wear one you know? they love swimming in the pool and sunbathing ... middle east hairy ones... even you dun rent.. other pipu rent how?

This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Jan 15 2016, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 15 2016, 02:57 PM)
do not think property investment like crony project like highway... must profit ... those are big corp and political powered... even new developements they work with banks sure 90% loan..

we are talking about individuals here... high rise in semenyih cost 400k to 500k... very right and good move one...

they believe semenyih will become 'setia alam" wor...
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I've worked in Kajang for 1 1/2 year in 2007, the property market there are very localize, as in majority are local buyers. Most of them are cash rich. I also struggle to see how outsiders (people who are not originally from Kajang area) are able to turn Kajang/Semenyih into the next Setia Alam.

Maybe there'll be a point where Klang valley's population will grow towards there but it will take a very long time. Even Setia Alam's appreciation is not that great. It only boomed for awhile after the Elite exit was open. Thereafter was pretty slow.
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QUOTE(netboy @ Jan 15 2016, 03:07 PM)
I've worked in Kajang for 1 1/2 year in 2007, the property market there are very localize, as in majority are local buyers. Most of them are cash rich. I also struggle to see how outsiders (people who are not originally from Kajang area) are able to turn Kajang/Semenyih into the next Setia Alam.

Maybe there'll be a point where Klang valley's population will grow towards there but it will take a very long time. Even Setia Alam's appreciation is not that great. It only boomed for awhile after the Elite exit was open. Thereafter was pretty slow.
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i stay in kajang since secondary school.. zzz

many of my friends bought semenyih... who lives in kajang .. now vp di.. what they complaint? too far.... i wanna flip only.. salary 3k bought 400k prop 1st phase..

if you really interested they are dying to sell... direct owner i give you...
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 15 2016, 03:07 PM)
i poorfag lar.. where got property holding...

i tell you u rent one unit OUG parklane stay there.. rent a room 4 me .. i pay rm550 ok?

"tepuk dada, tanya selera"

very soon from .. those untenanted or low tenancy has few options... sell cheaepr ( most likely not)... or rent out

renting out to negroes.... middle east... create new society there..

that is how sunway mentari become a foreigner place... connaught avenue become nigger places , mahkota cheras become nigger places.koi kinranra...koi troika..one south by huayang... and the hole stretch towards southcity plaza..and etc... who allows it to be rented? the owners lor

you want to share same lift with negro? cannot simply wear one you know? they love swimming in the pool and sunbathing ... middle east hairy ones... even you dun rent.. other pipu rent how?
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normally high density condo will become like that...

every 1 expecting pavilion 2 is nearby la,, then etc etc so they just buta buta go buy....

lelong or cheap sales maybe.. but remember, there are many potential cash buyers around the corner.. they can buy those special price at anytime.

my fren stay at there,, parklane,, 1 words, speechless.. for new condo like that
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 15 2016, 03:10 PM)
i stay in kajang since secondary school.. zzz

many of my friends bought semenyih... who lives in kajang .. now vp di.. what they complaint? too far.... i wanna flip only.. salary 3k bought 400k prop 1st phase..

if you really interested they are dying to sell... direct owner i give you...
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That's what I meant lo, majority local buyers. Local buyers already complaining, what more outsiders who fail to do their homework before entering Kajang/Semenyih market.
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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Jan 15 2016, 03:12 PM)
normally high density condo will become like that...

every 1 expecting pavilion 2 is nearby la,, then etc etc so they just buta buta go buy....

lelong or cheap sales maybe.. but remember, there are many potential cash buyers around the corner.. they can buy those special price at anytime.

my fren stay at there,, parklane,, 1 words, speechless.. for new condo like that
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that means you dun want to stay with negro and middle east too lor...

later they sunbath in pool you cant use di.or half way u swimming they offer to put lotion you osos gg.. or married couples with children play at wading pools... i saw them in koi kinrara.. the negro life the child and play along... you want mou?

.. or share same lift with you.. you GG... at the end the solution is rent.. to negro and middle east still got class... later rent to mangala 10 ppl one house = gg

pavillion 2.. my friend oso bought to flip nia... 700k to 800k less tha 900sq...

name is pavillion 2... got see the confirmed open stalls or not? zzz

surrounding areas vista komanwell A ,B and C larger in size and better in price... investment find those better..

these one concept tipu young pipu...

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