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TSxtylish
post Jan 13 2016, 09:56 AM, updated 10y ago

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can advise why buying properties with cash is not a good idea?
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post Jan 13 2016, 09:59 AM

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I tot got special type of loan for flippers? Why cash?
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post Jan 13 2016, 10:00 AM

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U have rm300k cash. U buy 1 property cash. After 5 years u sell value at rm400k, u get rm100k profit.

If take loan, u buy 2 ptoperties with 30% dp. After 5 years, u sell both at rm400k value. U get rm200k profit. While waiting for 5 years, u can use the balance of that rm300k to invest in something else

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post Jan 13 2016, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Jan 13 2016, 10:00 AM)
U have rm300k cash. U buy 1 property cash. After 5 years u sell value at rm400k, u get rm100k profit.

If take loan, u buy 2 ptoperties with 30% dp.  After 5 years, u sell both at rm400k value. U get rm200k profit.  While waiting for 5 years, u can use the balance of that rm300k to invest in something else
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but this flat i am looking into is like 50k only. its like a hassle to get loan.........
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post Jan 13 2016, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Jan 13 2016, 10:00 AM)
U have rm300k cash. U buy 1 property cash. After 5 years u sell value at rm400k, u get rm100k profit.

If take loan, u buy 2 ptoperties with 30% dp.  After 5 years, u sell both at rm400k value. U get rm200k profit.  While waiting for 5 years, u can use the balance of that rm300k to invest in something else
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^ rclxms.gif

but also subjects to you can sell it or not.
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post Jan 13 2016, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(xtylish @ Jan 13 2016, 10:01 AM)
but this flat i am looking into is like 50k only. its like a hassle to get loan.........
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Oh.. Rm50k, if me, ill still go for laon. Better if can get personal loan coz interest is much lower compared to house loan. Rm50k property u usually can get high rental yields, so can cover the loan and the cash i have will use for other things
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post Jan 13 2016, 10:06 AM

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Loan loan loan, when market crash, then u gg
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post Jan 13 2016, 10:07 AM

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post Jan 13 2016, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Jan 13 2016, 10:04 AM)
Oh.. Rm50k, if me,  ill still go for laon. Better if can get personal loan coz interest is much lower compared to house loan. Rm50k property u usually can get high rental yields,  so can cover the loan and the cash i have will use for other things
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personal loan is lower interest? are u sure?
whats the lowest PL interest now?
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post Jan 13 2016, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Jan 13 2016, 10:04 AM)
Oh.. Rm50k, if me,  ill still go for laon. Better if can get personal loan coz interest is much lower compared to house loan. Rm50k property u usually can get high rental yields,  so can cover the loan and the cash i have will use for other things
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Take personal loan buy cash rm50k flat , will LHDN chase after you ?
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post Jan 13 2016, 10:12 AM

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It is best to leverage your income by taking loan from bank to buy property, because even if you have the cash, that cash can be invested in other places
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post Jan 13 2016, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Jan 13 2016, 10:04 AM)
Oh.. Rm50k, if me,  ill still go for laon. Better if can get personal loan coz interest is much lower compared to house loan. Rm50k property u usually can get high rental yields,  so can cover the loan and the cash i have will use for other things
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in what universe?
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post Jan 13 2016, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(WindDragon @ Jan 13 2016, 10:12 AM)
It is best to leverage your income by taking loan from bank to buy property, because even if you have the cash, that cash can be invested in other places
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ah.. small money only. cannot invest anywhere. unless FD. serious.

another flat is like rm25k. i rent it out every month rm400.

the profit too low... seems like a bad idea after all.
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post Jan 13 2016, 10:16 AM

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when u plan to flip

to me i always go this way

entry - holding - exit

whats the balancing of the account and what kind of duration of EACH stage.

50k property will be like what.. 400-600 rental per month?
how old? possible repair n maintenance?
i think that price is like for walk up flat..


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post Jan 13 2016, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Jan 13 2016, 10:00 AM)
U have rm300k cash. U buy 1 property cash. After 5 years u sell value at rm400k, u get rm100k profit.

If take loan, u buy 2 ptoperties with 30% dp.  After 5 years, u sell both at rm400k value. U get rm200k profit.  While waiting for 5 years, u can use the balance of that rm300k to invest in something else
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But need pay interest.....


QUOTE(wlcling @ Jan 13 2016, 10:06 AM)
Loan loan loan, when market crash, then u gg
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Y said so?

The interest will rise?
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post Jan 13 2016, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(xtylish @ Jan 13 2016, 10:01 AM)
but this flat i am looking into is like 50k only. its like a hassle to get loan.........
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Flat just take cash. But flat no advisavle to buy for investment la. Cause capital appreciation low. Just keep for rental. Suitable for uncke aunty la

I vested in a 1sty house 6month ago. Bought below market rm120.( bank value was rm170k ). Did renovation 10k. Lawyer fee 5k. Sold at rm220k.

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post Jan 13 2016, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Jan 13 2016, 10:00 AM)
U have rm300k cash. U buy 1 property cash. After 5 years u sell value at rm400k, u get rm100k profit.

If take loan, u buy 2 ptoperties with 30% dp.  After 5 years, u sell both at rm400k value. U get rm200k profit.  While waiting for 5 years, u can use the balance of that rm300k to invest in something else
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dont forget in 5 years, you are paying 20% of the loan borrowed just for interest only.
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post Jan 13 2016, 10:20 AM

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post Jan 13 2016, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(cloud666 @ Jan 13 2016, 10:08 AM)
personal loan is lower interest? are u sure?
whats the lowest PL interest now?
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QUOTE(digilife @ Jan 13 2016, 10:10 AM)
Take personal loan buy cash rm50k flat , will LHDN chase after you ?
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QUOTE(call me random @ Jan 13 2016, 10:12 AM)
hmm.gif

in what universe?
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Personal loan i will always look at bank rakyat which interest seldom reach 4%. Whats the everage BR for banks now? Last I got was still using blr with interest at an everage of 4.2-4.4.

And personal loan interest wont be affected by any change in opr, blr or even br. U maintain the installment throughout the tenure
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post Jan 13 2016, 10:22 AM

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