I agree!
It's like the audiophile industry.
You could have five-figure headphones, but if the music source, recording and encoding aren't good, the finished product will feel lacking .

+1

+1 I came from a Breville grinder to a 58mm flat burr grinder. Should have saved my 1.6k (that I spent on the Breville) from the start and gone straight to a commercial grinder.

So chiahau you got a grinder already?

3k budget for espresso machine and ginder?

Machine only consider
http://www.finecoffeecompany.com/shop/expobar-office-pulser/

Or the popular Rancilio Silvia

Going to Thailand reach out to him and get a quickmill but not sure if he carry their entry level line
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/user/155631-quickmill/

This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 22 2016, 01:09 AM

I'm going to Bangkok soon ( give or take 2-3 months from today ) so I might drop him a visit when I'm there

Thanks again. Gonna read up a little as usual.

LazyJin; can share your experience with the Breville grinder (which I'm guessing is the BCG820) as well as your commercial grinder (brand,model, where you got it, how much)?

TIA!!

I think the Musica is between rm7-9k while the Londinium will probably be in the region of rm12-13k after taking into consideration the freight charges and import duty.

Having said that I think the L-1 is well worth the price, IMHO.

If you're already at the 11-12k range, that's pretty much an EK-43..

Best contact the store or him in advance, you might go home with a great deal

http://viaitaliana.net

At 2-3k budget maybe can get
https://www.coffeeitalia.co.uk/proddetail.p...ckmillsuperiore

This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 23 2016, 07:34 AM

Just few k up and get a beauty! May very worth the little extra

This group is getting higher and higher end...nice

Hi guys, just want to let you guys know im letting go my oscar nuova simonelli. No time to use. Check out my thread if you guys are looking for a good used coffee machine!.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3875668

Hi i just wanna ask do sifus here have any recommendation for a french press? Like what brand would be better? Im currently in johor bahru

I love my Bodum.
Purchased one from SB a few years back and that was my first foray into brewing!
http://www.lazada.com.my/bodum-kenya-coffee-8164141.html

(IMHO with a French Press, the grind matters more than the press itself.)

This post has been edited by AzrinRain: Feb 26 2016, 12:43 AM

As an alternative to French Press, check this out!

Presse by Bobble

hey guys, so my breville grinder cant be use anymore due to main grinder broken and there is no spare parts to it, so ive been thinking to replace the grinder with welhome pro grinder from dankoff, can u guys suggest what grinder below rm1k? i choose to buy from dankoff cause if anything happen to the grinder i cant directly go to them.

i think WPM ZD-16 is not bad , last month i called dankoff and they selling for for 699 if I'm not mistaken. I'm currently using ZD-15 although it can grind consistently fine after some mod but you only need to Top up another RM100 then you can get ZD-16 with more grind setting and with timer setting

Pay little more get a 50mm burr macap m2m
https://www.espressocoffeeshop.com/index.ph...&product_id=777

This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 28 2016, 11:50 PM

Macap M2M On Demand EUR295 = RM1,400
WPM ZD-16 = RM699

That's a 100% difference in price!

Does it really give 100% more performance?

Dude states significant margin does it mean 2x no idea
But it's macap 50mm flat vs welhome 35mm conical burr
http://www.home-barista.com/grinders/does-...-t31294-30.html

Macap better QC and better quality
Online it's 220eur or rm$1k+

Too bad in the world of espresso small improvements and price increase not 1:1 relationship.

A usd$1200 espresso machine vs usd$9k slayer doesn't mean taste improve by 7x. Not even sure can get 2x the performance.

Even hg-one at 7x the cost of zd17, I am sure it 7x the performance. Look at cars same thing, for a little you paying alot

This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 29 2016, 10:32 AM

As all things related to technology goes, prices are exponential increases after a certain point of performance.

Also, don't judge on how tasty is one cup vs the other but also how consistent is every cup
Sometimes the price increase is exactly about that - make 50 cups, does all of them taste consistently the same when parameters are not changed? (burrs won't heat up, uniformity of grinds...etc)
Follow what you need. Are you a 1 cup per day person? Or consistently entertaining guests? Or planning to open a pop-up cafe? Depending on the answer, you should know where to stop investing your money into for increased gains

Unless you have too much to spend, which in that case, EK43 bro

This post has been edited by ymeng85: Feb 29 2016, 10:52 AM