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post Oct 19 2016, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 19 2016, 08:17 PM)
I am itching to cancel it but I know I will be losing premiums. That said,

1)I want to change an agent.

2) Is it possible to "change" my plans and shift everything to medical coverage.

3) push comes to shove I will just change my credit card and wash my hands off the company and buy another medical coverage from another agent
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You can change the benefit and remain the agent. Definitely won't get to change agent unless your agent don't mind losing the commission

As long as you know what you're doing =)
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post Oct 20 2016, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(simonhtz @ Oct 20 2016, 01:50 PM)
Hi folks,

DOB: 16/12/1983
Occupation: some IT guy
Gender: dude
Smoker: unfortunately, yes

I'm looking for term insurance in the event of critical illness and death:
Death: 400k
CI: 200k
Covrage: till 65.

What would be the premium like?

Something baffles me till this day - I've requested term insurance quotation from 3 diffident insurance agent, all of back came back to me stating ILP is the better option compare to term insurance.

Is this true?
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post Oct 21 2016, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Oct 21 2016, 03:28 PM)
based on this tokiomarine product, yearly premium is much much lower compare to other standalone medical card?

for age range of 56-60, r&b 200 plan, yearly premium is only RM439.90?

http://www.tokiomarine.com/content/dam/my/...lus-English.pdf
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The premium is low because upfront you have to fork out the deductible.

With the premium you save every year, if you get sick often, you might be coughing out more than you save in the long run for medical card with deductible.
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post Oct 21 2016, 06:00 PM

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Monday, 17 October 2016
AIA all geared up to adopt Life Framework

Life insurer has been focusing on enchancing professionalism

KUALA LUMPUR: AIA Bhd, one of the top three life insurers in the country, is all geared up to adopt the Life Insurance and Family Takaful Framework (Life Framework) when it goes into full swing in 2019.

The framework, which was issued via concept paper in November 2015 by Bank Negara, contains reform initiatives aimed at improving the efficiency and effectiveness of distribution channels and promoting greater product innovation. It will also give life insurers greater flexibility in managing their expenses and remunerations to distributors, which are highly regulated at present.

This would be done through the implementation of the Balanced Score Card system or BSC starting from 2018.

The larger objective of the framework is to liberalise the insurance market in a manner that would ultimately benefit consumers. A phased approach to its implementation would be from 2016 to 2019.

“We see the BSC as an added enhancement to the existing tools AIA has in place to develop a highly-professionalised force. For several years now, our Agency strategy has focused on enhancing the professionalism of our sales force and driving higher productivity through the recruitment of quality full time Life Planners and increasing our number of active agents,” CEO Anusha Thavarajah told StarBiz.

The BSC serves to apportion a certain component of distributors’ commission to quality-based metrics such as quality of advice and level of service. This would benefit customers as they would get better service and tailored advice from their distributors.

Companies would at the same time benefit from improved persistency, while distributors who are part-timers would be encouraged to become full time. Over time, the focus of quality is expected to help increase insurance penetration in the country.

AIA has also leveraged the Million Dollar Round Table (MDRT) to stress the importance of ethical standards alongside productivity. In 2015, AIA grew its base of MDRT members by 45% to 179 from 118 in 2014.

“This focus on benchmarking our sales force against world class standards, and the other measures taken to boost the professionalism of our agency force, have ensured that we are well prepared to adopt the framework, she said.

The company currently has 13,500 agents or what it term as life planners.

For the first half of its financial year ended May 31, AIA’s active new agents increased by 30%, while active takaful producing agents and active agent productivity rose by 79% and 27% respectively.

Value of new business for the period surged 30% year-on-year (y-o-y) to US$90mil and annualised new premiums chalked up a growth of 31% y-o-y to US$159mil.

On the framework’s requirement for insurers to facilitate the buying of insurance online, Anusha noted that multi-distribution is not something that is new to AIA. Moreover, she said the diversification of distribution channels and the move to online platform allows the company to leverage its leadership position in distribution technology.

In 2013, AIA launched an iPad-based point-of-sale solution that allows its agents to complete the sale in one visit thereby providing a better customer experience.

In line with this, AIA is working on to introduce more direct channels starting with a more interactive and mobile-responsive website as well as customer portal, she added.

“We launched our revamped website in January which is mobile-responsive, easy to navigate and easy to understand. This will serve as the platform for the introduction of online sales in January 2017, when we will start by offering a term plan, and eventually critical illness, health and medical plans via our website. This helps us to connect with the younger generation and consumers who are savvy, providing an additional channel for them to seek solutions independently,

“While we intend to go online as part of the framework, our life planners will remain the cornerstone of our distribution strategy. We are working towards the integration of both online and offline experiences, which means that we will be directing some of the online traffic to our agents offline so they can advise customers on the purchase of more sophisticated products,” she said

In the first quarter of next year, Anusha said AIA would be launching an initiative which would allow customers to connect with the company through the platform of their choice. Customers would be able to conduct transactions which includes– making changes on their policy information, payment method, change of credit card details etc through various platforms. These include a self-serve customer portal and its new Customer Express App.

Apart from this, she said social media would be another platform to service the younger generation’s needs in view of its popularity as a preferred medium of engagement. AIA’s Facebook currently has a fan base of over 230,000 and the company intends to trains its agents to utilise social media to help with prospecting and closing sales.

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...life-framework/
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post Oct 21 2016, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Vingoh @ Oct 21 2016, 11:00 PM)
May i know how to surrender PRUDENTIAL ILP policy and get the cash value? How much time it take to surrender PRUDENTIAL policy? Do i get my cash value immediately when i surrender the policy?
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They will bank in the money to you within 2 weeks after you cancel a policy

Just walk into a branch and apply for a cancellation

Why want to cancel in the first place?
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post Oct 21 2016, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 21 2016, 11:16 PM)
if that's the case why need agents. even customer service exec told me these days you can claim anything on your own. I think she didn't think much when she was talking to me.
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Main part is giving proper advise. Not just selling because I want to hit target
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post Oct 24 2016, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(sheahann @ Oct 24 2016, 11:10 AM)
if everything goes digital.. so many agent out there need change job ?
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It's a service oriented industry, online will not fully replace it 100%
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post Oct 24 2016, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(sheahann @ Oct 24 2016, 11:19 AM)
so can ask agent for advice and planning..after decided what to buy, buy from internut and not from agent ..
so agent get what ?
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Generally Insurance agent will developed into Financial Planners where they will charge just like how lawyers do.

You want advise ? pay upfront for it.

Otherwise it will be run by the mill now
- Hey I can't hit target this month, please support this plan for me.
- This plan very good 1, 10% guaranteed return. 60,000 per year for 5 years.
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post Oct 24 2016, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(sheahann @ Oct 24 2016, 11:48 AM)
but if charge like lawyer. its only 1 time charge rite ?
last time if sell 1Million policy. commission alot wei ..
now if charge as financial planner . lets say few hundred per customer. where got enough ?
customer will always pay for the advice(if really need to) and buy from internet(if the cost will be lower than sign up with agent) . Correct me if im wrong.
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Well if that's the way it is then I guess that's your rice bowl for that month.
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post Oct 24 2016, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Oct 24 2016, 11:59 AM)
I don't know, do we really need to discuss about this no commission news and how it would affect the agents? I believe when it really happens, it happens. Things change. I don't see where a discussion on this issue will bring about any usefulness. For those that are in the industry I'm sure they have their own contingency plans.
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I'm quite surprised at ppl suddenly become so concern on how insurance agent make their commission. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 24 2016, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 24 2016, 01:16 PM)
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/insurance/

I just found out Prudential and Zurich just joined on board FSM to offer insurance coverage online.

But this are purely insurance coverage right? Once you complete paying the premiums, you will not gain back the investment over time?

Insurance agents am i right? These insurances sold online like PruTerm are just like auto insurance. You pay every year for the coverage but you do not get back
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Yes

Which is why it's offered as term insurance

Agents do offer that as well. At least anything happen agent can still do the death claim.
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post Oct 24 2016, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 24 2016, 01:24 PM)
Looks like I am having a insurance that combines death, medical, health in one go right?

these are separate insurances?

term and medical are not under the same?
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The question should he
Term insurance and investment link insurance are different type of policy

Term insurance is where you only pay the cost of insurance plus commission to the insurance company and in return they provide you the coverage. No investment is involved

Whereas for investment link plan it is much flexible and you can add in riders such as medical and critical illness and etc riders

The cost nor all involves cost of insurance, commission and investment which is why investment link are charged higher.

Take it as term insurance is rental whereas investment link is buying a house and owning a policy. Because term insurance has no cash value, if you forgot to pay it then it'll lapse and you will have to reinstate and re declare your health and you might not be able to reinstate it if you are no longer healthy
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post Oct 24 2016, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 24 2016, 01:51 PM)
BTW since you are from AIA.

My girlfriend's agent call her up to get her to buy the newly launched AIA Vitality for myr 10 a month.

I did further reading into it and I must say I love the idea! Get your clients to be healthy so insurance companies wont have to fork out money to cover hospital fees.

Good job AIA.

Prudential now your turn.
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Yeah we encourage our clients to stay and be healthy while be rewarded for doing so. It will help to bring down cost of insurance for those who are obese or living in unhealthy lifestyle.
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post Oct 24 2016, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 24 2016, 02:08 PM)
exactly. maybe I'll let my ceo know about this. my medical centers will prove useful working with AIA vitality.

Do you have anyone that he can get his marketing team to contact in AIA?
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You may call up AIA and look for them. Otherwise if you have any other specific question can ask me
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post Oct 24 2016, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 24 2016, 05:24 PM)
No more symbolic Rm1 "free" medical consultation at government hospitals effective next year.
GHs now also playing PPAP......eh sorry PPBP.
Kind of concern about the wellbeing of one ex forumer here and his family whereby he never trusted insurance company and his family health care rely solely on free government hospital.
http://www.moh.gov.my/index.php/database_s...ownload/337/809

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Haha good one on the PPAP joke.

Yeah it's time for those who rely solely on the Government to get a private insurance coverage for themselves.
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post Oct 24 2016, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Oct 24 2016, 05:36 PM)
As I understand, this is only limited to specialist and it is optional. Not compulsory. Correct me if I'm wrong but please do not simply spread fear, again correct me if I'm wrong.
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I don't think it's compulsory but it's optional. But I'm not sure what difference does this make in the Government Hospital. Does paying in full equal faster medical attention than non-full paying patients ??
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post Oct 24 2016, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Oct 24 2016, 06:04 PM)
One of the benefits as I understand is that you get to choose your specialist and also upgrade the ward room to executive level. At times, these cost might even be more expensive compared to private hospital.

This is a great selling point however, perhaps as responsible and professional agent, we should gather the right facts and present it. Not spread half truths. That's not our job.
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Agreed on this but this will be no different from ppl opting for half private / half gov hospital. It's just providing optional services for ppl who desperately need to get the medical attention first and they're willing to pay for it.

But the reason ppl opt for government hospital can be a few such as
1. Insufficient funds
2. No insurance
3. More professional treatment (Not sure about this)
4. More facilities compared to private hospitals.
5. Lower income group of people

If that's the case, having atleast some minimal insurance would help to subsidize for partial payment/full payment for an average Malaysian who want to opt for Government hospital if their limit can't pay for a private hospital fee.
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 24 2016, 08:31 PM)
On second look at pdf press statement dated 20th Oct, it stated that the existing subsidized medical care will be continued, Looks like the RM1 consultation fee will stay put. But the question is why come out with this letter now when FPP already started since 2007? What is the different with the present FPP and the 2017 FPP? Hope those in the industry can shed some lights.
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My guess is that it basically to allow more hospital to have such option so that willing patients who are able to pay for the specialist fees can get their medical attention as soon as possible without delay (vs waiting for the FOC services).

Some situations could be a matter of life and death.
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QUOTE(kazekage_09 @ Oct 26 2016, 09:40 AM)
FPP is an option for those who can afford to pay and get to choose their favourite surgeon/specialist. The RM1 service will still be there. That letter maybe purposely being viral by certain individuals to create some havoc since near the Budget 2017. FPP exist long time already.

From what I know FPP also is also government initiative to keep the specialist in gov sector from going to private. As we know specialist in private earn so so much more compared to gov. So with FPP those specialist can get a good additional income.
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I wonder how much more will government specialist earn from this compared to private specialist
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post Oct 26 2016, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Vingoh @ Oct 26 2016, 02:56 PM)
Want upgrade my policy but the agent told me cannot upgrade, just cancel and buy new one
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You're holding a standalone policy or investment link?



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